Oceans on Outerplanetary Bodies

2002-10-01 Thread Christopher England
suggest thicknesses of 66, 85 and 75 km for Europa, Callisto and Ganymede, respectively. These numbers are not authoritative, but might be somewhat defensible. Christopher England Technologist, New Millennium Program Thermal and Propulsion Engineering Section Jet Propulsion Laboratory == You

Re: Oceans on Outerplanetary Bodies

2002-10-04 Thread Christopher England
Bruce Moomaw wrote: And as for tides, don't forget that Triton must have undergone tremendous ones after it was initially captured into an eccentric orbit around Neptune. Those tides -- during the period in which they finally circularized its orbit -- are widely believed to have completely

Enmantling Mars

2002-10-18 Thread Christopher England
A habitable Mars (by hardy people, of course) might be made by dumping a large KBO or maybe even Pluto/Charon onto Mars. This would add volatiles and plenty of water ... and mass too. Actually, I'd prefer Ganymede (Callisto would be easier to deflect, is more pristine and is already in a

Re: Something to learn from Mars Express

2002-11-22 Thread Christopher England
Paul Lavin wrote: Run the data loss on the Martian atmosphere composition by me again. When did this happen? P Thank you for asking! The Viking lander gas chromatography-mass spectrometer (GCMS) data is not available anywhere. What is taken as gospel for the composition at the

Re: Finding exolife will be a tough task

2003-01-09 Thread Christopher England
Or not. Non-equilibrium atmospheres like the Earth's are a sure giveaway. Mars has one too, but it's not so sure, too much oxygen and not enough carbon monoxide. Titan has methane for reasons unknown. Maybe cows. == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ST-8 news, and ST-9 Workshop

2003-01-23 Thread Christopher England
(1) The ST-8 pre-announcement came this morning at http://prod.nais.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/eps/bizops.cgi?gr=Dpin=04#104194 The response date is April 18, 2003 (2) The New Millennium program is holding a workshop in Washington DC on Feb 5-6 to support a technology planning preliminary to the ST-9

Re: What about intelligent life on Europa?

2003-02-24 Thread Christopher England
If there is life on Europa, there is intelligent life out there. We are hoping that environments like Europa will tell us more about what life is, and, therefore, how common it is. Europa's oceans are not unusual environments. Any rock-ice body with a diameter ~1000 km can have a

WORRY ABOUT INCOMING

2003-02-28 Thread Christopher England
The meteor crater in Arizona was formed about 45,000 years ago. I'm not much on statistics, but an interesting guess might be that such a strike has a probability of 1/45,000 per year. This strike was a small one. Zodiacal dust has a life on the order of 20,000 years, so why is there any?

Re: WORRY ABOUT INCOMING

2003-02-28 Thread Christopher England
Robert It's true that some of the particles coming to Earth are extrasolar, but that's because, after they are sputtered by their star to a small size, they are blown out of that star system, and some of it goes here. Zodiacal dust falls inward due to the Poynting-Robertson effect (I haven't

LST - Little Space Telescope

2003-03-27 Thread Christopher England
Hubble's days may be numbered, and JWST may be late. Maybe an interim little space telescope is an option. No atmospheric interference and lots of science to be had. When JWST is operational, there is no shortage of targets, spectra and science for an LST. What may be needed is just to turn

Prometheus propulsion

2003-07-02 Thread Christopher England
with a small cone shield. Otherwise, Prometheus would be one big shield. Ion propulsion is efficient but low in thrust (like ounces of force). Chemical propulsion will be needed for high thrust needs like fast orbital capture, landing and takeoff. Chris Christopher England Thermal and Propulsion

Re: No life detected in Atacama Desert in Chile

2003-08-08 Thread Christopher England
It's knowing where to look, and for what to look. I don't think we (we Earthfolk) are there yet. If there's anything certain, it is that any life we find off the Earth will be different, likely extremely different. Chris == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL

Re: Planetary tilt not a spoiler for habitation

2003-08-28 Thread Christopher England
It's stress that causes diversity in biological systems, and I would think that tilt, with the resulting diverse environments, would be highly favorable. For subsurface biological systems, any guesses? Chris == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project

Re: Prometheus propulsion

2003-09-08 Thread Christopher England
Robert, Here are my answers Chris, has anyone done an analysis to determine whether one could produce a high-thrust ion engine complex using nanotech? My guess would be that there would be significant gains in thrust due to multiple micro-engines but that this might be limited due to

tidal heating

2003-11-06 Thread Christopher England
I love this topic. Europa places the same face to Jupiter all of the time, as do most satellites. I guess that it's the tidal heating that eventually dissipates the rotational energy. I don't know of any other mechanism. Jupiter doesn't continually flex Europa as in the balloon analogy

Re: tidal heating

2003-11-07 Thread Christopher England
Good answers! Great answers. My questioning of the models is that we don't know the interior structure or properties of the moons so we can't calculate the tidal heating, which is dissipative. For Europa to have thin ice (5 km), we need something like 10^13 (10 trillion) watts being

Re: Rovers on Europa

2004-02-17 Thread Christopher England
It seems to me that surface characterization on Europa should center on discovering where the under-ice ocean communicates with the surface. I think that this characterization is best done by remote sensing, possibly from Earth or Earth-based telescopes. Of course, orbiting spacecraft have a

Re: Standing Body of Water Left Its Mark in Mars Rocks

2004-03-24 Thread Christopher England
I heard a talk by Hoffman at an AGU meeting regarding CO2 flows, and he was ignored. Continental drift was ignored from about 1915 to 1970 even though convincing measurements were made as early as 1912. Hoffman's general approach on CO2 flows is described at