On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Bruce Moomaw wrote:
As for mechanical drilling through ice rather than melting; it can be done,
but all the studies conducted over the past few years have concluded that,
on balance, it requires much more energy expenditure than hot-water jet
melting. There might also
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From: Joe Latrell [mailto:joe_latrell;beyond-earth.com]
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There are several sources of rocky material on Europa. I wouldn't hazard a
guess as to how much there might be however. The freckle
In a message dated 11/2/2002 6:29:38 PM Alaskan Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The last I heard, the team designing the possible 2007 "CryoScout" Mars
Scout mission to penetrate a hundred meters or so through Mars' north polar
icecap were still undecided about whether its Cryobot would
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In a message dated 11/2/2002 6:29:38 PM Alaskan Standard Time,
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The last I heard
In a message dated 11/1/2002 6:33:52 AM Alaskan Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was thinking that we could enhance the vehicle's ability to negotiate
changes in direction by giving it a head that swiveled. The ability to bend
in the middle would also be helpful.
I keep imagining
In a message dated 11/1/2002 8:04:34 AM Alaskan Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would information regarding MIT's Robopike (a robot
that imitates the behavior of a fish) be of use to Icepick?
Relevant URL:
http://web.mit.edu/towtank/www/pike/
Larry
Yes, I think so, particularly
In a message dated 11/1/2002 9:27:57 AM Alaskan Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Something has really been nagging me and I wanted to throw it out to the
group.
The assumption up to this point is that ther would be debris to navigate
around. Why? Unless physics has changed, ice floats.
In a message dated 11/1/2002 9:51:25 AM Alaskan Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
True. Good point.
I guess I pictured in my mind a glacier, where sand, rocks and boulders had
been pushed and collected over time. In the ice fields of Earth's North and
South poles, is there debris like
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Something has really
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Would information
]' Subject: RE: Guidance System for Icepick I, and Cryobot thoughts I was thinking that we could enhance the vehicle's ability to negotiatechanges in direction by giving it a head that swiveled. The ability to bendin the middle would also be helpful. I keep imagining that the Europa Icepick could
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It's an elegant notion, but articulation
, November 01, 2002 9:56 AM
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It's an elegant notion, but articulation is component-intensive and
failure-prone.
Also, it is most probably unnecessary. Directional control could come via
is anything
that may have fallen from the sky.
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Advanced Note
talking to
myself, so I commonly make little jumps of rationale.
Jack
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Being unlearned in these things, but really curious...
I don't understand how preferential heating or jetting
I was looking over the Galileo mission photos of Europa and see many colored photos that show plenty of sediments -- minerals that are not water. They are not sure what they are and may be just higher concentrations of salt but even a salt vein or pockets would be considered debris to avoid
for Icepick I, and Cryobot thoughts I was looking over the Galileo mission photos of Europa and see many colored photos that show plenty of sediments -- minerals that are not water. They are not sure what they are and may be just higher concentrations of salt but even a salt vein or pockets would
In a message dated 10/30/2002 5:46:32 PM Alaskan Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Indeed it is -- the water-filled tunnel that the Cryobot melts in the ice
freezes solid again less than a meter above its rear end (and the sheer
pressure of the ice just a few hundred meters down would
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