EV digest 6367
EV Digest 6367 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: 6 wheels, 8 motors, Zilla 2K, and 880 A123 Cells = 10.9 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) re: my battery fire by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) KW's for sale by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: Discharged Batteries by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) RE: Weird Battery Problem by Fred Hartsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Re: Where did the RAV4 go? by Lawrence Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) RE: Weird Battery Problem by Tim Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: my battery fire by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) RE: Weird Battery Problem by Fred Hartsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) RE: EVLN(Voltageville vied for Tesla EV plant) by Myles Twete [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) RE: Weird Battery Problem by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: Where did the RAV4 go? by Bill Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: Weird Battery Problem by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Re: Issues with KW charge by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: Data Acquistion Ideas by Mike Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) by David Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: Reviving flooded batteries by David Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: Should I say Peak Lithium ? by David Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: long thread in may 2006 about why PnG doesn't work for EV's .. by David Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: Reviving flooded batteries by Matt Kenigson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) by Death to All Spammers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Re: Discharged Batteries by Darin -a-t- metrompg.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Re: EVLN($24.4k Nissan Altima Hybrid)-long by Matt Kenigson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: KW's for sale by Matt Kenigson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) by Jeff Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Re: my battery fire by Matt Kenigson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Bill, Our 4 drive tires are 12OD when inflated. I get the jist of what you are saying but with all due respect doing things our way is what makes the sport worth doing. The fact that there is no ONE best way is what electric racing is all about to me. When nobody could get a rear engine dragster down the track safely they all but one abandon the idea. What do they all drive today? Thanks Mr Garlits. Rest assured our new car Juiced Up will have MUCH larger rear tires. But it will also have the world's only quad tandem electric race motor that has never been tested before. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. Finding out will be the reward. Shawn Lawless PS: It will work won't it Jim H? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 9:04 PM Subject: Re: 6 wheels, 8 motors, Zilla 2K, and 880 A123 Cells = 10.9 Try 8 inch diameter tires like those on Orange Juice. At 05:47 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote: In a message dated 1/30/2007 3:57:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: j: Re: 6 wheels, 8 motors, Zilla 2K, and 880 A123 Cells = 10.9 Date:1/30/2007 3:57:51 PM Pacific Standard Time From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received from Internet: Don Gartlis has written about the merits of the small tire setup as Shawn has on the OJ dragster.So Shawn give that setup a few more trys. In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice. :-) The ICE drag racing folks have been at this for 50 years. A ton of time, money, and runs down the track have been devoted to improving traction. If there were any way to get a tiny bit more traction, they would be doing it. The smartest move is to find the very fastest car that has about the same weight and HP that you do, then copy the tires and chassis design. It is very unlikely that you are going to do any better, especially during your first few years on the track. Narrow track, tall wrinkle sidewalls, wide contact patch = good traction and stability on the drag strip. When EVs start going faster than ICEs on the drag strip, then we will have to figure out how to get more traction than they do. Bill Dube *** A Quote fron Don Gartlis as written in the summit log book.Less tire means more power,In sportsman racing where horsepower is limited,you can make more use of your avaible horsepower by pairing small diameter tires with a large gear ratio.It takes more power to spin a larger tire.Therefore,you can save horsepower with the smaller tires and apply it to a larger gear in the differential to
EV digest 6368
to All Spammers wrote: ... all-electric SUV ... codeveloped by Lotus and ZAP ... Let me guess. This news release came from Zap, not Lotus. [Uncovers eyes.] Was I right? Did I win? ;-) Perhaps I'm just a cynic. But it seems to me that Zap and the late, unlamented BAT have more in common than a 3-letter name. David Roden I thought the same thing, but I went to the Lotus site, and they have the same info: http://www.grouplotus.com/mediactr/ Whether that means ZAP has improved their business model or Lotus has been hoodwinked remains to be seen. When I first read about this joint Zap/Lotus project it seemed like a joke. The folks at Zap have always been what we -don't- want in the EV business. OK... if I had to guess between the Lotus company being hoodwinked and the ZAP people improving their business model I would have to guess that Zap has brought some exceptionally gifted con artists aboard. If something has changed as far a Zap is concerned, I haven't heard about it. Roy LeMeur _ Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme002001msn/direct/01/?href=http://i magine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en- ussource=hmtagline __ NOD32 2024 (20070131) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ All new Yahoo! Mail The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use. - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- This is all extremely bizarre beyond words. I had always thought of Lotus as a reputable business building quality products. Sometimes you are viewed by the world with the company you keep. If anyone has some thoughts on the subject you can always write to Lotus Engineering at http://www.grouplotus.com/contact/general_enquiry.php?section=17 Maybe they are just extremely ignorant and need to be educated or maybe they have a new policy of not caring what people think of their business practices. Roderick Wilde - Original Message - From: Kaido Kert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) There is more detailed report on CNET: http://news.com.com/2100-11389_3-6154854.html The important bits: to be on sale by the end of 2008 350 miles range 155mph 10-min recharge capability cost target: $60 000 CNET reporter dropped in a link to Altair .. If this was for real, i'd buy it. Thats basically the specs for a dream car PLUS its a Lotus The pricetag would be justified. /kert On 1/31/07, Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a six letter word for you: Touché! Roderick Wilde - Original Message - From: David Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) On 30 Jan 2007 at 20:23, bruce parmenter wrote: ... all-electric SUV ... codeveloped by Lotus and ZAP ... Let me guess. This news release came from Zap, not Lotus. [Uncovers eyes.] Was I right? Did I win? ;-) Perhaps I'm just a cynic. But it seems to me that Zap and the late, unlamented BAT have more in common than a 3-letter name. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EV List Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Want to unsubscribe, stop the EV list mail while you're on vacation, or switch to digest mode? See how: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost or etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- OK, what is it with ZAP and its business practices then ? I realize this is a public forum etc, but i did search the archives here and i didnt find anything that would explain these comments... Care to provide a link to some reading material
EV digest 6369
EV Digest 6369 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Rebates/Incentives/Credits, Was: Debating purchasing an EV by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dana Havranek) 2) Jessie James should build electric motorcycles by Chip Gribben [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) RE: Distilled water sources. Was: Re: Reviving flooded batteries by TiM M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: Where did the RAV4 go? by Lawrence Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: Jessie James should build electric motorcycles by MIKE WILLMON [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Re: Distilled water sources. Was: Re: Reviving flooded batteries by Doc Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re: my battery fire by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: Discharged Batteries by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) by Death to All Spammers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: Distilled water sources. by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: Jessie James should build electric motorcycles by Dmitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) by Jay Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) RE: Weird Battery Problem by Fred Hartsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Re: Jessie James should build electric motorcycles by lyle sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: Where did the RAV4 go? by Christopher Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: Distilled water sources. Was: Re: Reviving flooded batteries by Matt Kenigson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) by Bill Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Battery Washing, was: Re: my battery fire by Matt Kenigson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) 8D verses 6 Volt batteries by xx xx [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: Distilled water sources. Was: Re: Reviving flooded batteries by Danny Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) by xx xx [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Re: my battery fire by Matt Kenigson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Re: EVLN(Lotus' 644hp E-SUV, 350mi range, 155mph top speed) by Bill Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Hi Doug, Illinois. I'm actually quite surprised they have a program. The rebate is for up to $4,000.00. Dana -- Original message -- From: Doug McKee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry Dana, Do you live in one of the states guessed? Doug -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana Havranek Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:00 PM To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Subject: RE: Rebates/Incentives/Credits, Was: Debating purchasing an EV HA! I'm not a she! I run into that a lot now days. Dana -- Original message -- From: Doug McKee [EMAIL PROTECTED] She probably lives in California or Minnesota. In Texas we get squat. Doug ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Just saw Jessie James of West Coast Choppers was fined $275,000 by the CARB for violating emission regulations on his customer's motorcycles. It was like 50 custom bikes he made that were in violation. Ouch. Think of the electric motorcycles you could build for $275,000. Chip ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Matt, Where are you buying your distilled water? I typically buy it in one gallon jugs at the local grocery store. If I can get the house brand on sale it's about .89/gallon. If I have to spring for the name brand stuff, Sparklets or some such, it's about $1.29 a gallon. Who knows, we pay more for gas out here in Southern California, so maybe they give us a break on the water. I go through about 2 gallons month on my 24 battery truck. TiM Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Yes. The if I come to your house with cash option. Lawrence Rhodes. - Original Message - From: Bill Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Re: Where did the RAV4 go? Lawrence, I don't think there is always a Buy It Now option. The seller can choose to include it or not. Or did you mean something else? Bill Dennis Lawrence Rhodes wrote: When purchasing something on ebay there is always the option of a buy it now happening. If the seller has someone willing to meet their asking price why continue the auction? It only violates the ebay rules which have no legal weight. Lawrence Rhodes.. - Original Message - From: Christopher Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: Where did the RAV4 go? Out of curiosity, does anyone know
