EV digest 4774
EV Digest 4774 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Designing for safety (was 'Re: Composite monocoque vs. sand buggy' by Ryan Stotts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: Designing for safety (was 'Re: Composite monocoque vs. sand buggy' by Ryan Stotts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) RE: Wanted - information on DC motor by Jim Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: Newbie question. by Ryan Stotts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) White Zombie blasts into the 12.2s by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Battricide? Or are Orbitals tougher than that? by Ryan Bohm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) White Zombie leaves the 12.2s in the tire smoke by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: White Zombie leaves the 12.2s in the tire smoke by Jim Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: White Zombie blasts into the 12.2s by Roy LeMeur [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: White Zombie blasts into the 12.2s by Bob Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: S-10 Conversion Speed Sensor by Tom Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) White Zombie in the final round by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: White Zombie blasts into the 12.2s by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) last Run of Zombie from track side by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: Battricide? Or are Orbitals tougher than that? by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) FS: 9 Evercel M100s, plus spare cells by Derrick J Brashear [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: White Zombie in the final round by Roy LeMeur [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: GEM-like but much better looking... by Lawrence Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) another Solectria Sunrise All Composite EV Car Body on ebay by Tom Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: Designing for safety (was 'Re: Composite monocoque vs. sand buggy' by David Dymaxion [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: Blew up Diode bridge. by James Massey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) RE: Solar Trailer? by Dewey, Jody R ATC (CVN75 IM3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) RE: Battery or Generator Trailer by Dewey, Jody R ATC (CVN75 IM3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Combining Fiberglass and Steel (was Re: Designing for safety) by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Re: Solar Trailer? charge control by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Re: Designing for safety (was 'Re: Composite monocoque vs. sand buggy' by Tim Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) RE: Solar Trailer? by Dewey, Jody R ATC (CVN75 IM3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28) RE: Solar Trailer? by Dewey, Jody R ATC (CVN75 IM3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Peter wrote: Might not be the lightest, but it WILL be safe(r) and not much heavier. You can do a good steel roll cage in about 100 lbs give or take. Some details on a weld in, 6 point cage for a Mustang: Mild Steel, $289, weighs about 80-85lbs Chromoly, $415, weighs about 60-65lbs They also make bolt in versions. http://www.wolferacecraft.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=73 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- stU wrote: Square or round, size and wall thickness? I'm thinking 1-1/2 square 0.125 wall. Scroll way down on this page to where it says Round Tube vs. Square Tube. Some VERY interesting info... http://www.factoryfive.com/table/ffrkits/roadster/specs/frame.html The frame on that page unbelievably weighs 350 lbs and the fiberglass body weighs 110 lbs.. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hey Victor your pretty close to me and in fact are probably not far off my weekly motor run route, as we come back over Santiam pass. What type of motor are you looking to obtain? Jim Husted Hi-Torque Electric Redmond OR. Victor Reppeto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, not really what you asked about but I was wondering if next time you are at your buddies motor shop, could you get me more info on the 14-18 motor that you were offered? Offlist reply would be fine. Thanks, David Chapman. I am still trying to sell an ICE car first but I am also interested in the details and prices of the motors you are/not considering. Thanx, Victor R. Salem, Or - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- John Luck Home wrote: I don't quite understand why we do not use fixed field magnet motors. Got any links to these motors? ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- This just in via John's cell phone at the PIR track in Portland, Oregon. White Zombie with Tim Brehm trying to hold on to the wheel just blasted into the 12.2s with a 12.275 second run at 104.78 mph. The 60 foot time was 1.629 seconds. The two previous runs were in the 12.3s. The Zombie is HOT tonight. 12.2s are textbook Viper times. Watch out all you over flexed Arnold cars, the Zombie is on the loose. Roderick Wilde Suck Amps EV Racing www.suckamps.com -- No virus found in this
EV digest 4775
EV Digest 4775 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: S-10 Conversion Speed Sensor by Dewey, Jody R ATC (CVN75 IM3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: Combining Fiberglass and Steel (was Re: Designing for safety) by Evan Tuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: Combining Fiberglass and Steel (was Re: Designing for safety) by jerry dycus [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: another Solectria Sunrise All Composite EV Car Body on ebay And Controller software problems by jerry dycus [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) RE: Designing for safety (was 'Re: Composite monocoque vs. sand buggy' by stU [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) RE: Combining Fiberglass and Steel- resin and thermal expansion by Phil Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re: Designing for safety (was 'Re: Composite monocoque vs. sand buggy' by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: Solar Trailer? charge control by keith vansickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Sidecar Rig by Aaron Askanase [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) RE: Solar Trailer? by Mark Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: Solar Trailer? by Rush [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: Combining Fiberglass and Steel- resin and thermal expansion by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: battery explosion, terminal connections by Neon John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Re: Solar Trailer? charge control by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: Battricide? Or are Orbitals tougher than that? by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: battery explosion, terminal connections by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: Blew up Diode bridge. by Michael A. Radtke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: S-10 Conversion Speed Sensor by Neon John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: Solar Trailer? by Neon John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) RE: Solar Trailer? by Tom Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Variac brushes by rcboyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) RE: Designing for safety (was 'Re: Composite monocoque vs. sand buggy' by Kevin Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Is it really okay to expose motor to the elements by Eric Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Rewinding a shunt motor: costs? by Neon John [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- If I remember right the speed sensor is directly connected to the speedometer. You have to be sure though because in 95 GM switched speed sensors in the trucks. I think it is 2000 pulses per mph but I am going strictly from memory. If you want you can just get a ratio converter, they sell them in the JEGS catalog for about 100 bucks. If you do a google search for speedometer corrector you will find a USB programmable one that will allow you to change the speed by a percentage. -Original Message- From: Michaela Merz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:49 PM To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Subject: S-10 Conversion Speed Sensor Hello Everybody: I've got an 120 V 95' S-10, convertion 2/3 done by somebody else (unfortunately deceased). While this person did a great job on the high voltage side, he kind of 'rigged' the 12 Volt side. Among other things, he installed a new speedometer and mounted it on the dash. I am currently rebuilding the 12 V side so that everything works as it is supposed to. However, the speedometer gives me a hard time. I connected the speed sensor input to the original speedometer, but it gives me unvalid speed readings (approx. 10 times the speed I am actually driving and going to 0 at actual speeds 15 mph). My question: On (1995's) S-10, is/was the speed sensor directly connected to the speedometer or via some internal computer (that has, unfortunately, been removed) ? What would be a prudent course of action to get the speedometer working again? Your insights are appreciated. Michaela ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On 9/29/05, Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone with experience working fiberglass AND knowledge of these properties care to respond? The Reliant cars do have some steel embedded in glassfibre. The seatbelt mounting supports for example. The main problems are that the steel becomes loose in the glassfibre (resin doesn't stick to it well?), then water / condensation gets to it, then it rots and is difficult to replace. I'd be interested to know the answer to the materials question too. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi Peter and All, Even if it wasn't much difference in thermal expension like Lee has correctly stated, metal and fiberglass just to not work well together and do not stay attached from either thermal expansion or just normal road vibrations. So I would not try to mix them in a monocoque type structure. If you want to attach them, you must do it mechanicly, not by glueing unless you go to double sided tape or other adveasives that are designed to do that job. But laying up polyster/glass to metal
EV digest 4776
EV Digest 4776 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Is it really okay to expose motor to the elements by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: S-10 Conversion Speed Sensor by Michaela Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: Another NEDRA rule question single or dual motor by David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: Designing for safety (was 'Re: Composite monocoque vs. sand buggy' by David Dymaxion [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: Question on Heibao EV by Edward Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Re: Is it really okay to expose motor to the elements by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re: Is it really okay to expose motor to the elements by Eric Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: Another NEDRA rule question single or dual motor by Ken Trough [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: Idea for Park by Eric Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) RE: Designing for safety (was 'Re: Composite monocoque vs. sand buggy' by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: Newbie question. by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) RE: Battery or Generator Trailer by David (Battery Boy) Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: Solar Trailer? by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) RE: Solar Trailer? by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: Another NEDRA rule question single or dual motor by Jim Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) RE: Combining Fiberglass and Steel (was Re: Designing for safety) by Kevin Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: Blew up Diode bridge. by Lawrence Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Solectria Force cars for sale in New Jersey] by M Bianchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: another Solectria Sunrise All Composite EV Car Body on ebay by Lawrence Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: Newbie question. by Paul Compton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) DIY GenSet was Re: Battery or Generator Trailer by Victor Reppeto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Re: Blew up Diode bridge. by Lawrence Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Re: S-10 Conversion Speed Sensor by Neon John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Sidecar Rig by Ken Trough [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Paging Wayland by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Eric Poulsen wrote: With many conversions, the motor is often located near the underside of the car. I've read here that you shouldn't worry too much about the motor, but is it really okay with getting wet/dirty? What happens when you hit a big puddle, and have direct splash onto the motor? Nothing, short term. Electric motors will work underwater. The problems are mainly long-term, from rust or corrosion, or dirt getting on the commutator or in the bearing so they wear out faster. -- Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has! -- Margaret Mead -- Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hey John and others: Well, the speed sensor is currently connected to an external speedo that runs well. Only if I connect it to the integrated speedo, it gives me crab. And I was talking to an Chevy mechanic who told me, that the speed sensor runs through the PCM and from the PCM to the speedo. I don't know though, if that guy just wanted to sell me a 300$ replacement PCM. Question is: If I would have to use the PCM, is there any way to circumvent it short of completely rebuilding/replacing the integrated speedo? I am afraid that the stock speedo actually is just a meter and that the speedo electronics is actually integrated into the (missing) PCM. Michaela No computer involved. The variable reluctor sensor used for the speedo pickup generates a pulse whose amplitude is roughly proportional to the speed. The speedo usually has some sort of automatic gain control to accommodate the low voltage pulses at low speed. It is most likely that when the gain is up, the speedo is picking up interference from the motor controller. The first thing to do is to make sure the speedo wiring is located far away from any traction wiring. If that doesn't fix things then you should try running shielded twisted pair from the pickup to the speedo. If the problem is still there then you'll have to start looking for ground loops and/or tramp connections between the traction and 12 volt wiring. One other thing to check is to make sure your DC/DC converter isn't outputting trash onto the 12 volt side. John --- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.johngsbbq.com Cleveland, Occupied TN ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Problem is Jim is that while you did Waylands motor (s) for essentially free, I doubt you can continue to do this, therefore what John D said about checkbook wars is valid. However, if you do want
