EV Digest 4762
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Bought Tires, got a funny coupon in the mail.
by James Massey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) S/P motor, was: RE: White Zombie...
by James Massey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) Re: Shortened drive motor
by James Massey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) Re: Bought Tires, got a funny coupon in the mail.
by Ricky Suiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) The Effect of Polar Moment of Inertia
by "stU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) Re: 87 s10 bought last nite at Speedworld
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7) Question on Heibao EV
by Jim Persky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) nedra, Nedra , NEDRA....
by Steven Lough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Re: Which Nedra class?
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10) Re: World Solar Challenge, Comments
by Tony Godshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) THREE very QUICK E-Chairs - The Movie
by Steven Lough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Re: Shortened drive motor
by Jim Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) Fiat 500 conversion
by Suhas Malghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) Re: World Solar Challenge
by Ryan Stotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) Re: Which Nedra class?
by Ryan Stotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
16) Re: THREE very QUICK E-Chairs - The Movie
by Ryan Stotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) Re: Bought Tires, got a funny coupon in the mail.
by "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
18) Re: S/P motor, was: RE: White Zombie...
by "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19) Re: S/P motor, was: RE: White Zombie...
by Jim Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20) Wife's EV questions?
by Stefano Landi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21) Re: S/P motor, was: RE: White Zombie...
by "Nick 'Sharkey' Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22) We got the Sunrise !!!
by jerry dycus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
23) Re: 87 s10 bought last nite at Speedworld
by Jim Coate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24) Re: Wife's EV questions?
by Ryan Stotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
25) Re: We got the Sunrise !!!
by Ryan Stotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26) Re: We got the Sunrise !!!
by Rush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
27) Saturday Night's Zombie Drag Videos Up
by John Wayland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
28) Re: We got the Sunrise !!!
by "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--- Begin Message ---At 01:53 PM 26/09/05 -0700, Ricky wrote:So my Saturn conversion had the tires which had been on it for several years. They were weather cracked, so they had maybe 30 miles put on them before I promptly had them recycled and fresh rubber put on. I took it to the Goodyear store where I kind of know the people there, which afforded me a 10% discount! So today I got this in the mail and found it rather hillarious.http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ricksuiter/album?.dir=/5db6 I'm sure they send this to all of their customers.Take them up un the offer! At least you should get a laugh (take a video camera, might win funniest videos).(for those who didn't click the link - free lube, oil and filter coupon..)James
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--- Begin Message ---At 09:29 AM 26/09/05 -0500, Dennis Pestka wrote:Can a S/P setup be done with 1 Motor ?Not really (try putting a piece of wire in series with itself). But the S/P control could be used to pull in field weakening on a single motor.Or run a shunt motor, using a fixed field in two steps and a Zilla in the armature.Someone suggested P/S a battery pack, but that would be ... unhealthy, to say the least - massive inrush currents to the controller, have to precharge again for the doubled voltage.James
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--- Begin Message ---At 05:51 PM 26/09/05 -0400, Mike G wrote:Jim,I like your ideas. This has stirred a thought in my head If I eliminate the internal fan in my motor I could shorten the housing accordingly. The only problem I see with this is the holes that were the outlet for the fan before will be eliminated. So I would drill some new holes to let the air out to cool the motor. Would I be screwing up the magnetic lines of force from the fields if I were to drill holes in the case between the field windings.Thanks for any input.Hi MikeI'm not Jim, but my motor had no fan. I have fitted up a blower (in at the brush end) and out through the end plate behind the flywheel and through vent holes in the bell housing. I had a complete new end plate made, which did double-duty of end plate and bell housing adaptor. I've placed a picture of my motor in pieces at:http://jcmassey.gallery.netspace.net.au/Daihatsu-pics-01/Image_093The machinist (who also builds race cars in his spare time) put 9 holes around - presumably to reduce the fatigue risks.James
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--- Begin Message ---Well, that wouldn't work because when I took it there to get the tires put on it was dead and after I said I had to show whoever was pulling it in how to turn it on and drive it I had the whole shop over there with the hood poped and me explaining how it worked. Maybe I can find a time when there is another shift of guys working, lol. James Massey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ricksuiter/album?.dir=/5db6 > >I'm sure they send this to all of their customers. Take them up un the offer! At least you should get a laugh (take a video camera, might win funniest videos). (for those who didn't click the link - free lube, oil and filter coupon..) James Later, Ricky 02 Red Insight #559 92 Saturn SC2 EV conversion in progress --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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--- Begin Message ---_____________________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stU Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 7:46 AM To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Subject: The Effect of Polar Moment of Inertia The moment of inertia has to do with a body's resistance to angular acceleration. Polar refers to the ends. Consequently, the polar moment of inertia of a vehicle is related to the mass that is located near the front and rear. The effect of polar mass can be experienced by rotating a dumbbell back-and-forth around a central axis. The weight concentrated at the ends makes the barbell resist changes in direction. A ball of equal weight will reverse directions with little effort because the mass is concentrated at the center. Most passenger cars are designed with a relatively high polar moment of inertia. The engine is located over the front or rear axle and the fuel and luggage are located at the opposite end. The center of the vehicle is hollow to provide room for the occupants. A low polar moment of inertia results in a vehicle with more responsive handling, but it also produces a more choppy ride. A vehicle with high polar mass is less nimble, but it offers a smoother ride. Sports cars tend to have a low polar moment of inertia for nimble handling, and they also tend to ride more roughly than passenger cars. Normally, a good balance between ride and handling can be achieved. The designer does not have to decide between one or the other extreme. From: http://www.rqriley.com/suspensn.htm stU<<attachment: winmail.dat>>
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--- Begin Message ---I am sure ford or a few others could make the ranger quicker and faster but at what expense dollar an mech. By puting a small lith. pack instead of the 2100 pounds of lead it would have been quicker although not faster(governor) I will have a series motor in the s10 that I can tweak. Dennis
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--- Begin Message --- I just purchased a used Heibao EV (from ZAP, in Santa Rosa CA) and need to remove the governor so it goes over 25. Anyone have a clue on this? Anyone have experience with this vehicle? I'm new to EVs, (48 hours)thanks jim
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--- Begin Message --- Hay.... How about a class for Lazy Boy Chairs... It was a real crowd pleaser at Pacific Race Way...(Not a serious WISH... OK ??? BUT there were MORE people in the stands, than at any NEDRA EV-ent I have ever been to.)This MUST be one of the motivates for John W. to show up at the Saturday Night Drags.. If THEY won't come to US, WE should go to THEM!!Right John ??? -- Steven S. Lough, Pres. Seattle EV Association 6021 32nd Ave. N.E. Seattle, WA 98115-7230 Day: 206 850-8535 Eve: 206 524-1351 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.seattleeva.org
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--- Begin Message ---You know, I just asked a simple non political question.Maybe I should just go back to ICE drag racing. Dennis Berube
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--- Begin Message ---Look at the solar drone NASA built that can stay aloft indefinitely. Pretty much just have to scale that up to a human payload, right? According to Roland Wiench, > Hello Robert and All, > > My master mechanic show me a news paper article about a month ago on a solar > power aircraft that is to be flown around the world between 2010 and 2012 by > the same persons that flew the balloon and or aircraft around the world. > > This aircraft is BIG !!! with lots of motors and props with solar cells > covering the entire wing surfaces. What I was interested in, was the motors. > The motors casing is extruded plastic that look likes a big diameter plastic > pipe that has walls of about 2 inches thick. > > It look like they have 8 motors and props on the wing that is longer than any > wing made. > > It is to used Lithium-Cobalt batteries for when they are in the dark side. > > A permanent magnet rotor is use which are normally call BRUSHLESS MOTORS. > They are having SWISS ETEL design these motors for this aircraft. > > This design was built and tested in 1966 by a student of electrical > engineering here in the USA. It consisted of a fiberglass coil form with the > magnet wires wound around the outside surface. The rotor was a permanent > magnet rotor. > > He tried to patent it back then, but was turn down because the patent office > engineers said it did not work and was too BIG to be practical. A hand held > electric drill would have to have a crane to carry it around. > > Now they are going DEMO that a BIG electric machine will be able to drive > them around the world!! > > Roland > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ROBERT RICE<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu<mailto:ev@listproc.sjsu.edu> > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 7:13 AM > Subject: RE: World Solar Challenge, Comments > > > > > djsharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > Forgive my heresy. These cars are not practical vehicles. If you could > road register them you would become road metal after a 600hp Kenworth & > road train or B double driven by a pill popping crazed driver completed > the passing (I wonder what that strange crunching noise was). The event > is surely an academic exercise. > I await the inquisitors > David > > Hi David,an' All; > > Oh, ya may get a few<g>! But it's the technology were after, after all > my Rapter controller was born and bred on the dragstrip years ago, now it's > in my "Gofur car" Far, well, once at Power of DC, see Discovery Channel, > from racing. As John puts it on the Zombie" We break stuff so you don't have > to" Seams that Wars and Racing improve most any technology. OK, marketing. > The Good Folks that do batteries for Laptops and cell phones, we have the T > zero's performance, soldering 6000 laptop batteries isn't for the faint > hearted, but upscaling cell batteries up to car size will EVentually happen. > Then an Oil Company will buy up the rights<g>! WHICH Prez was known as the > "Trustbuster" back in the old daze? Teddy Roosevelt? One of those guys, He > must be spinning in his grave like a Capstone turbine, today.Your HO train > set scaled up 87 times becomes full size and can carry a hellova lot of what > hasta move. As we say on the RR "What's a few hundred tons among friends?" > > Road trains, yeah, they should be a short footnote in history. What a > pain in the ass, in traffic ,a truck as long as a freight train! Fuel prices > today SHOULD thin them out, as the trailer boxes are strapped down to > flatcars and sent under way, under catenery, on the RR. We have vertually NO > freight hauled by electric,in USA, since Amtrak took over the North East > Corridor, formally the Pennsylvania RR. THEY moved mile long freight trains > with magnificent electric Lokies, considered classics, the whole lot by RR > buffs, like me.But they were in the way of the pass trains, sez Amtrak, but > the Pennsy moved a hellova lot MORE of both in their " Standard Railroad of > the World" daya. They even SAID that on their timetables!I'm talking about 80 > years ago, sigh. But a Acela train sure could go like hell across the plaines > states, delivering cheaper seat miles per killawatt than todaze jet fuel > prices. But RR's are hidiously expensive to build, and maintain, nowadaze. > Jet Blu! e ! > do! > esn't > have a track dept, or Bridge and Building , all that stuff a RR hasta > keep.All you do is buy the planes and fly them over Govt maintained "track" > and terminals. Fuel prices could level the playing field, at least for short > trips. > > Off trak, as usual, but Solar Challenge is fun to watch, should be a > feature program on Discovery and the history of it for the History > Channel.Hey! TV worth watching and putting on DVD's Passing them around! > > Seeya > > Bob -- Best Regards, Tony
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--- Begin Message --- About half way down this page, (http://www.seattleeva.org/wiki/Current_events)you will see reference to: Videos* 11 Meg Drag Race (http://www.seattleeva.org/Documents/MVI_0664.AVI) from Steve LoughIts a GREAT movie with a GREAT Ending.... -- Steven S. Lough, Pres. Seattle EV Association 6021 32nd Ave. N.E. Seattle, WA 98115-7230 Day: 206 850-8535 Eve: 206 524-1351 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.seattleeva.org
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--- Begin Message ---Hey Mike, James, and All As to shortening your motor housing and then drilling holes here are some thoughts I have. I just completed machining Jays 9ADC housing down from 11 ½ to 9 ¾ in length today. I was trying for 91/2 but I had to leave some meat above the coils. Dont fret Jay I can take some off the DE plate, hehehehe. His motor will still have vent slots in the DE plate but there is still going to be steel beyond the field coils outer winding. You (I feel) could use this area to drill through without affecting the magnetics to bad. Here are some things Ive seen before. First Ive seen motors that have holes drilled into the housing (various positions) in between the coils, sometimes they insert terminals there or run cables out. The outside of a housing is not true to the machined inside area and can be out by almost a 1/16th of an inch in thickness. I currently build Lansing drive motors for Rite aid Distribution in Woodland CA. that have aluminum housings with a steel insert that holds the field, and there is very little steel between the field coils. All in all I ! believe you would affect the magnetics no more than the imperfections of the housings themselves. Try to keep your holes as even as possible and if possible try to leave them above the field coil line. I also would have suggested drilling out the DE plate as posted if that is an option it may be your best bet. As to my statement and reference to an ABR its short for adjustable brush ring. We could go with VTB (variable timed brushes) if you all like, its just that I chicken peck here so if we can use ABR Im much faster in my replies, lol. Hope this helps Jim Husted Hi-Torque Electric James Massey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:At 05:51 PM 26/09/05 -0400, Mike G wrote: >Jim, >I like your ideas. This has stirred a thought in my head If I eliminate >the internal fan in my motor I could shorten the housing accordingly. The >only problem I see with this is the holes that were the outlet for the fan >before will be eliminated. So I would drill some new holes to let the air >out to cool the motor. Would I be screwing up the magnetic lines of force >from the fields if I were to drill holes in the case between the field >windings. >Thanks for any input. Hi Mike I'm not Jim, but my motor had no fan. I have fitted up a blower (in at the brush end) and out through the end plate behind the flywheel and through vent holes in the bell housing. I had a complete new end plate made, which did double-duty of end plate and bell housing adaptor. I've placed a picture of my motor in pieces at: http://jcmassey.gallery.netspace.net.au/Daihatsu-pics-01/Image_093 The machinist (who also builds race cars in his spare time) put 9 holes around - presumably to reduce the fatigue risks. James --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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--- Begin Message --- A few months ago someone posted about their plans for a Fiat 500 conversion using lithium batteries. I think it's a great idea and am interested in this as well, could that person drop me a line? Thanks
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--- Begin Message ---Better not be any batteries in these so called "solar cars"... Otherwise, the only thing that is solar powered is the on board battery charger! Or are these solar cells providing the sole power to the motor? What is the future of the solar cars anyways? Will anyone on this list ever drive to work in one? ;)
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--- Begin Message ---Kilowatt wrote: > Maybe I should just go > back to ICE drag racing. Or build an EV for every class and set all the records!
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--- Begin Message ---What was the motor/controller/battery setup in that really fast one and the one behind it? It was hauling pretty good..
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--- Begin Message ---Maybe you could get them to do it to the tranny or differential? David C. Wilker Jr. USAF (RET)"I live in the heavens. I reside on mountain tops. I am at constant vigil over thee. I monitor thy righteous ways. Thy levels art mine to command. When thou art in trouble, I will help thee through distorted times. When thou art low, the touch of my hand shall raise thy spirit to the proper level. When thou are too high, I shall terminate thee with a swift stroke of my sword. When thy wires are frayed and broken, my angels shall use solder and iron to heal thee. Thou art the circuit, I am the chosen one, I am the TECH CONTROLLER!"----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricky Suiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <ev@listproc.sjsu.edu> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: Bought Tires, got a funny coupon in the mail.So my Saturn conversion had the tires which had been on it for several years. They were weather cracked, so they had maybe 30 miles put on them before I promptly had them recycled and fresh rubber put on. I took it to the Goodyear store where I kind of know the people there, which afforded me a 10% discount! So today I got this in the mail and found it rather hillarious.http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ricksuiter/album?.dir=/5db6 I'm sure they send this to all of their customers. Later, Ricky 02 Red Insight #559 92 Saturn SC2 EV conversion in progress __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- Begin Message ---Can you set the armature and field to run in series or parralel? David C. Wilker Jr. USAF (RET)"I live in the heavens. I reside on mountain tops. I am at constant vigil over thee. I monitor thy righteous ways. Thy levels art mine to command. When thou art in trouble, I will help thee through distorted times. When thou art low, the touch of my hand shall raise thy spirit to the proper level. When thou are too high, I shall terminate thee with a swift stroke of my sword. When thy wires are frayed and broken, my angels shall use solder and iron to heal thee. Thou art the circuit, I am the chosen one, I am the TECH CONTROLLER!"----- Original Message ----- From: "James Massey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <ev@listproc.sjsu.edu> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: S/P motor, was: RE: White Zombie...At 09:29 AM 26/09/05 -0500, Dennis Pestka wrote:Can a S/P setup be done with 1 Motor ?Not really (try putting a piece of wire in series with itself). But the S/P control could be used to pull in field weakening on a single motor.Or run a shunt motor, using a fixed field in two steps and a Zilla in the armature.Someone suggested P/S a battery pack, but that would be ... unhealthy, to say the least - massive inrush currents to the controller, have to precharge again for the doubled voltage.James
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--- Begin Message ---You can split and pair field coils up using 4 terminals per coil set instead of just two. These can be used to run the motor in either series or series parallel. Prestolite shows this type of two speed motor set up with a differance in amps and RPMs of around 25%. An example for a high speed / low speed test is 30 amps @ 3000 RPM series and a jump to 40 amps @ 4000 RPM for a series parallel connection. Father time told me he has tried to use this on a race bike with little difference in times, but I think there is much still to be learned and or experimented with on this type of set-up. Father times motors he used on his Lazy-boy chair would be a good candidate to plumb the coils to operate both ways, as I believe they are wound series OEM, and they have alot of coil turns. Anyway just one more item I've got on my list of things to do. I do see this as something an EM would benefit from more so that a full car, as in the latter just install a bigger motor. For those who are having trouble getting better top end speed and their RP M's are not in the danger zone then less field coils would mean higher speeds. Hope this helps Jim Husted Hi-Torque Electric Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can you set the armature and field to run in series or parralel? David C. Wilker Jr. USAF (RET) "I live in the heavens. I reside on mountain tops. I am at constant vigil over thee. I monitor thy righteous ways. Thy levels art mine to command. When thou art in trouble, I will help thee through distorted times. When thou art low, the touch of my hand shall raise thy spirit to the proper level. When thou are too high, I shall terminate thee with a swift stroke of my sword. When thy wires are frayed and broken, my angels shall use solder and iron to heal thee. Thou art the circuit, I am the chosen one, I am the TECH CONTROLLER!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Massey" To: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: S/P motor, was: RE: White Zombie... > At 09:29 AM 26/09/05 -0500, Dennis Pestka wrote: >> Can a S/P setup be done with 1 Motor ? > > Not really (try putting a piece of wire in series with itself). But the > S/P control could be used to pull in field weakening on a single motor. > > Or run a shunt motor, using a fixed field in two steps and a Zilla in the > armature. > > Someone suggested P/S a battery pack, but that would be ... unhealthy, to > say the least - massive inrush currents to the controller, have to > precharge again for the doubled voltage. > > James __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- Begin Message ---Hi guys, Yup you read right, my wife had a few EV questions, well more "what if" scenarios. We were watching Monster Truck racing and she asked me if it would be possible to build an Electric Monster Truck. I pondered the idea and figured that yes it would be possible with something like 4 9" or 10" ADC with a whack load of lead. She asked if that wouldn't be too heavy, well since these trucks weigh in at 10,000 lbs anyway, what would say a couple of thousand pounds of batteries be? In fact since Monster trucks don't need to go very fun, you wouldn't have to worry about range, just shear power and torque. It was a fun entertaining exchange I must admit. The other question was what kind of autonomy could a electric school bus camper conversion get? Again, with all the space for batteries and a very strong frame, I imagine someone could conceivably make a camper that could get at least 100 miles range? Again, this was an interesting thought experiment. Made me also think about the possibility of a long-haul 18 wheeler EV, would something like that be possible, I mean the truck could carry a whole trailer full of batteries and each trailer could then have its own power source for the cab and therefore the drivers could drive to their destination, drop off their load and spent batteries, pick up a new battery pack with their new load. Sounds plausible anyway. Thanks for the time, Stefano http://fest-ev-a.slandi.net
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--- Begin Message ---On 2005-09-27, James Massey wrote: > > Someone suggested P/S a battery pack, but that would be ... unhealthy, to > say the least - massive inrush currents to the controller, have to > precharge again for the doubled voltage. *waves* that was me! Written under the assumption that I'd have to build a controller to handle it anyway, and that the S/P switchover would be _after_ any big capacitors. A semi-contactor controller, really ... -----sharks
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--- Begin Message ---Hi All, Bob Rice and I with the help of others on this and other lists just won the body of the Selectria Sunrise at E bay auction and James Worden has given permission to make more Sunrises from it !!! So the early plan is to make a mold from it and start making some of them though will probably take a yr to get the first one going. Most of the work has already been done on the hard part, finding all those little parts needed to finish the EV. All and All, a great day for EV's !!! Thanks again to those who helped make this happen, especially Bob Rice, Lee Hart and Keith VanSickle. Yeah Team !! Jerry Dycus PS, we just barely beat Zap from getting it most likely from the bid name. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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--- Begin Message --- I'd think you'd be pushing the limits of the motor for max RPM if you tried to make it go faster. I'm pretty sure the OEM Ranger EV is a fixed gear ratio drive.If so, it is like the factory OEM Chevy S-10EV which has the max speed governed to ~72 mph, which not too coincidentally works out to a motor speed of 10,000 RPM.Ryan Stotts wrote:Were the motors in it 99+ mph capable... ?-- Jim Coate 1970's Elec-Trak's 1998 Chevy S-10 NiMH BEV 1997 Chevy S-10 NGV Bi-Fuel http://www.eeevee.com
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--- Begin Message ---Stefano wrote: > and figured that yes it would be possible with something like 4 9" or 10" A single 13" motor would do. "has been dyno tested and produced almost 2700 ft. lbs. of torque at the rear wheels!" That's more then those trucks currently put out. http://www.evsource.com/tls_warp13.php > since these trucks weigh in at 10,000 lbs anyway, what would say a couple of > thousand pounds of batteries be? I'm nearly certain the silly rules say the trucks can't weigh any LESS then 10,000 lbs. Otherwise they would! Think about when they are up in the air and the impact on the swivel points the wheels mount too. Less weight is always better. > carry a whole trailer full of batteries and each trailer could then have its > own power source for the cab and therefore the drivers could drive to their > destination, drop off their load and spent batteries, pick up a new battery > pack with their new load. The entire weight of the truck, trailer, and whatever his load is, in this state anyways, is limited to 80,000 lbs. Kenworth offers an aluminum frame option. Lightweight trailers are a big deal. If you are hauling something heavy, or heavy items, you will hit the weight limit before you run out of space. The weight of those trucks as is, their poor aerodynamics, and the speeds and distances they travel; I just can't envision an electric semi for interstate use. Bio-diesel, ethanol, propane, or natural gas. Supposedly who ever manufactures turbines for planes is working on Bio-diesel and ethanol turbine designs.. Make sense considering the uncertainty and instability of gasoline/diesel/aviation fuel anymore.. I sure don't like being dependent on it.
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--- Begin Message ---Jerry Dycus wrote: > Bob Rice and I with the help of others on this and other lists just won the > body >of the Selectria Sunrise at E bay auction and James Worden has given > >permission to make more Sunrises from it !!! Absolutely amazing! That car has huge potential! I can't wait!
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--- Begin Message ---Congratulations! Rush Tucson AZ www.ironandwood.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "jerry dycus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ev@listproc.sjsu.edu> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: We got the Sunrise !!! > > Hi All, > Bob Rice and I with the help of others on this and other lists > just won the body of the Selectria Sunrise at E bay auction and James Worden > has given permission to make more Sunrises from it !!!
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--- Begin Message ---Hello to All,I've posted three of the videos from this past weekend's racing up at the plasmaboy racing video page:http://www.plasmaboyracing.com/videos.php Shawn Rutledge wrote: >Wish I could've been there to see it. Shawn, here's your chance. You'll need Quick Time Movie player to see it. Rod Wilde wrote:>You are proving that you can have a reliable street driven EV that can go to the track on weekends and kick gas car butt!The first video on the page is the 12.424 run. It's got an incredible wheel stand launch scene that should make Rod Wilde proud, and though not as crazy as his Maniac Mazda's launches, the car does lift the front tires about 3-4 inches above the pavement. The excited track announcer makes the video even more interesting. In fact, he parrots pretty much what Rod just wrote as he narrates the video:"It's Tim Brehm in the White Zombie....the electric car...the Datsun 1200...the world's quietest street legal car. They 'drove it' to the track tonight....They don't need a trailer for this thing!"The next line will make Rudman proud: "I'd like to see the battery charger they plug into!" Next, he proclaims: "Look at this....lifted the wheels on that thing...that is awesome!"Tim's dad was nice enough to run my video camera to get this great footage, but he got a little excited at the end and aimed the camera at the wrong lane and got the other guy's (the looser's) read-out. It's OK, because the 'on target' announcer tells the Zombie's time and speed. I can't remember what kind of muscle car was running in the other lane and the video isn't clear enough for me to tell (Mustang or Camaro?), but it had a powerful V8 you can hear straining as it tries to catch the little 'ol battery powered Datsun!The other two videos are also fun to watch, especially the one that pits White Zombie against a super hot 12.7 second Mitsu Eclipse, so go check them out.See Ya....John 'Plasma Boy' Wayland http://www.plasmaboyracing.com
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--- Begin Message -------- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Stotts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ev@listproc.sjsu.edu> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 11:25 PM Subject: Re: We got the Sunrise !!! > Jerry Dycus wrote: > > > Bob Rice and I with the help of others on this and other lists just won the body >of the Selectria Sunrise at E bay auction and James Worden has given >permission to make more Sunrises from it !!! > Hi All! Whew! That was close! I was sniping at the last 2 minutes when the godamn E Bay demanded my credit card no. RIGHT NOW! Of course with the car hanging in the balance I musta muffed the damn no, " Not Valid card no." comes up and yo can't just click back and try again. Like a tenth of a second is an eternity in drag racing, diddling with numbers takes EVen longer. Whythehell don't that ask that shit BEFORE the bidding gets hot an' heavy?? Will write a strongly worded letter to the E Bay Folks! But when I got back, I had lost, but ,What Freedon EV Won! Way to go Jerry, he clicked at the right time! I came up on the EV prioductuin List, too with the good news! OK we have just begun! I stand ready to get the check off to the guy selling it. James Worden, I think? Will be getting back to those of ya that offered the bucks to buy it. Looks like Dycus Motors will have two divisions<g>! And you thought I retired, ha ha! Been busier than EVer. Lottsa stuff, Jerry just called to share in the victory.we talked at length about powrr trains suspensions on and on. There is a hellova lot of stuff in an auto, think about it! I am! Now the fun has begun, building the car bodies. The molds are up here in RI, We'll see if we can get them, too. They are at a shipyard that builds boats. Well, we hava lot of boat talent in our midst, anyhow, EVen I diddled with boats in my deformative years<g>! The list will be our most valued asset, youse guys are a national treasure, we hope to make EV's a reality in OUR life time. > Absolutely amazing! That car has huge potential! I can't wait! > Yup I felt that way when I reached into the Sunrise to shake James hand and say " Welcome to Connecticut " on his Bos-NYC run on one charge. Like me he had his 15 seconds of fame, Gees!? Was it THAT long.We now have our mission cut out for us. Lets take a ride! Seeya......loggin off for a great nites sleep! >
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