Re: [EVDL] e-nv300: ... tell Nissan you want e-NV200 4sale in N.America 800-647-7261 opt7

2019-05-18 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 May 2019 at 20:57, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The nissan rep there, said nissan is not interested in selling the e-nv200 in > N. America. That's not so surprising. IMO, the brightest future of production EVs is in Western Europe and Asia. In Europe, 4 nations have already stated that

Re: [EVDL] Time to build a lithium battery from 18650 or 26xxx

2019-05-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 May 2019 at 8:12, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > New and pre owned cells. Not sure I would trust pre owned. You may not be sure, but I'm positive I wouldn't. You don't know where those cells have been. These days, both Ebay and Amazon are so overrun with garbage and counterfeit

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Failed Tesla eMMC bricks(kills) pack> warranty-over= sol

2019-05-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 May 2019 at 4:20, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > On the specific issue, the eMMC chip in older Teslas is based within > the car's media control unit and used to log data collected by the > media system. Exactly what data are they logging from a media system, and what are they doing with it?

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 May 2019 at 19:57, paul dove via EV wrote: > Still it doesnTMt make a lot of > sense because it says 29900 euros or $47000 in Germany. Germany doesnTMt use > dollars so I assumed USD. > > But if they are loosing 4700 per car itTMs still more than a Tesla to build. It's an AUSTRALIAN

Re: [EVDL] Convert Eerie Creepy Disappearing Gas Stations2: public EVSE Availability

2019-05-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 May 2019 at 19:05, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Its likely the utility's EV program subscribers receive a separate cps > chargepoint rfi card to gain access. This seems unjust. From what I can see, if you're going to use public charging much, you end up with a pocket full of RFID cards and a

Re: [EVDL] Availability of public chargers

2019-05-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 May 2019 at 17:04, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > I don't think the situation is hopeless or impossible. But it is > certainly difficult. > > It's the Innovator's Dilemma. How do you sell a disruptive new product > in a market already controlled by entrenched competitors? Answer? You > can't.

Re: [EVDL] Availability of public chargers

2019-05-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 May 2019 at 20:36, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > If a bunch of students can manufacturer a vehicle that seats 4 with a trunk > that can do 400 miles a day that is what GM should be building. Nope. Sorry. GM is a mass market manufacturer. That's a technical marvel, not a mass appeal

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 May 2019 at 6:25, paul dove via EV wrote: > You can get a Tesla cheaper than that without the incentive Really? How? AFAIK VW haven't announced a dollar price, or even whether they'll offer the ID here, but if you translate 29.9k Eur directly to US$ it would be US$33.6k at today's

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 May 2019 at 13:20, Matt Lacey via EV wrote: > Likely the vw is measured on a more realistic cycle Figures for both EVs are on the (unrealistic) WLTP cycle. In theory, they should be comparable. AFAIK, VW hasn't published a "real world" range number yet. It will be interesting to see

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Barra sez GM's e-putruck adamantly confirmed> (camo shots)

2019-05-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 May 2019 at 19:24, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > General Motors CEO Mary Barra has confirmed to reporters the automaker will > one day offer a battery electric pickup truck. Yeah, "one day." Right. I'm still waiting for the electric Chevette they promised back in 1980. I'm not holding my

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 May 2019 at 18:54, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The base variant will have a 48kWh battery pack and a WLTP range rating of 330 > kilometres. This model will be priced from ¬29,900 ($47,170) in Germany. > Government incentives in France will reduce the price to a more reasonable > ¬23,900

Re: [EVDL] Travel Scoot in the news

2019-05-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 May 2019 at 0:28, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > What about nimh? > It's still easy enough to get nimh D, C, or sub-C cells. Good thought! The only possible problem with that is that in recent years I've found it difficult to find good quality high-rate NiMH cells. What I see available are

Re: [EVDL] Conversion offered for sale

2019-05-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 2 May 2019 at 23:42, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Where is the car located Sorry for omitting that information. It wasn't actually specified, but the message I received asking that I post it mentioned a Tucson EV club. Thus, I think that it's probably in or near Tucson AZ. David

Re: [EVDL] Travel Scoot in the news

2019-05-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Good old United Airlines. What would travelers have to talk about without them? Just about everyone I know (including myself) who travels has an "Oh for goodness sake," or worse, story to tell about United. Formerly you were allowed to travel with a lithium-ion battery of less than 300Wh.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (spied) Taycan w/ minimal camo> shows headlights design

2019-05-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 2 May 2019 at 0:45, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Up until now the headlights have been hidden behind covers that > betrayed their true shape. Look out, here comes the EVDL's cranky old man again. :-\ Somebody should send the author of this piece a dictionary. He seems to have a little trouble

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (spied) Uncamouflaged Leaf EV tested in Delhi.in

2019-05-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 2 May 2019 at 0:44, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The e-Power hybrids from Nissan have an electric drive train and an > internal combustion engine, like any other hybrid. However, the petrol > engine is used to charge the batteries which power the electric motors. > This drive train eliminates the

[EVDL] Conversion offered for sale

2019-05-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
When you're selling your EV or used / surplus EV parts, it's OK to post a note announcing the sale once on the EVDL. I've received a request to forward the used EV offer below to the list. If you're interested, please contact me at my private EVDL address to get the seller's email address.

Re: [EVDL] % Google Maps is NOT a reliable tool to find EVSE % (goog-pr)

2019-05-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 1 May 2019 at 18:53, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Presumably you tried fr.chargemap.com, not chargemap.com Thanks for pointing that out! Actually I was using chargemap.com, which starts off centered on Germany. At your suggestion I tried fr.chargemap.com, which saves lots of clicking

Re: [EVDL] % Google Maps is NOT a reliable tool to find EVSE % (goog-pr)

2019-05-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 30 Apr 2019 at 4:16, David Nelson via EV wrote: > Plugshare.com lists stations in Europe. Maybe someone who has been to France > can comment on the reliability of it. Thanks for the reference, but that's actually why I posted that question. I tried Plugshare. In the particular small French

Re: [EVDL] % Google Maps is NOT a reliable tool to find EVSE % (goog-pr)

2019-04-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Does anyone have a recommendation for Europe, specifically France? David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Singulato iC3 based on discontinued TMC EV> (?Rav4EV?)

2019-04-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 Apr 2019 at 2:05, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Toyota has already said that initially it won't be able to meet > its quotas without buying credits from others. Well, if they hadn't been dragging their feet all this time, but had actually developed and produced practical, affordable EVs that

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: ?aboutface/turnabout?> TMC EVs.cn (C-HR battery electrics)

2019-04-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 Apr 2019 at 3:46, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Today, those rocket lights, wings and fins wouldn't sell (too old > school for the newest generation Yeah, now they put the fins on the front of the cars instead of the back. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller / no bms

2019-03-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This is kind of long (I tend to run on, sorry). Please bear with me and I'll eventually come to the point. I'm sort of the electronics equivalent of a shadetree mechanic. I've hacked (in the good sense) electronics since I was a teenager. ICs weren't really available to hobbyists then. My

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller

2019-03-18 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 18 Mar 2019 at 14:04, ken via EV wrote: > there must be some kind of modaul that you'd input on seconds / off seconds, > then it would run a relay to controll charger on/off or program an > ?adrainal? the little computer. You're talking about charging, yes? I can't understand why you

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller

2019-03-18 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 18 Mar 2019 at 13:52, ken via EV wrote: > i guess i could charging voltage but with current lower than > shunts. Is there a typo in this? I have no idea what it's supposed to mean. > > where which item would dc to dc control the amperage down to 500ma and > 72 volts ? Same here. I

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller

2019-03-18 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 Mar 2019 at 16:39, ken via EV wrote: > I like to see some kind of a charger timer that could control the input > to the charger as on/off This is pretty much what a cycle dropping charge controller does. It's a relatively simple (crude) method. The charger is designed to produce a

Re: [EVDL] Alibaba/Aliexpress Lithium

2019-03-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
To verify the factory AH rating you would measure at the same rate the factory does. That's probably the 20 hour rate (C20; that is, current at which they'll be flat in 20 hours). But you really don't (or shouldn't) care what the C20 capacity is. All that matters is how many AH (or WH)

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (spied) Tesla Pickup Test Mule EVs transported on car-carrier

2019-03-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Mar 2019 at 23:46, Jorg Brown via EV wrote: > If that's really an F-150 truck body around some Tesla internals, why does it > have a tailpipe? It's fairly common for automakers to disguise EVs that they're testing by adding fake ICEV-style tailpipes. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL

Re: [EVDL] tesla to close stores, sell online only

2019-03-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Mar 2019 at 21:18, jim--- via EV wrote: > However one of the big ones would be if I fit in the vehicle. I'm pretty much average sized by current US standards, and I can't think of a vehicle I have serious trouble getting into or out of. So I don't worry too much about that. I do

Re: [EVDL] tesla to close stores, sell online only

2019-03-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Mar 2019 at 19:27, jim--- via EV wrote: > there is no way I would buy any car without having driven on. At one time I would have heartily agreed with this sentiment. But after almost 5 decades of driving more different vehicles (owned, borrowed, rented) than I can count, I've

Re: [EVDL] Design News: The Top-Ten-Selling Electric Cars

2019-03-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Mar 2019 at 8:52, Len Moskowitz via EV wrote: > In polls, Americans have repeatedly said they see EVs as the future. > But with their wallets, theyTMre saying something else. I've found pretty much the same story anecdotally for 30+ years. Everybody I talk to about EVs thinks they're a

Re: [EVDL] Maxwell Supercap 16v modules could protect my expensive lithium batteries.

2019-02-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Feb 2019 at 21:48, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > I think the 300 dollars of caps would protect the pack and increase > performance. Probably not all by themselves. The problem with capacitors is that, unlike batteries, their voltage falls rapidly as they discharge. What you're

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Supercap, ultracap, Goldcap> take the plunge

2019-02-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Feb 2019 at 16:54, Len Moskowitz via EV wrote: > Trim off everything "?" and everything after it: Excellent! Thank you for the help. Three thousand farads at 2.7 volts! Except that it's 2.7 volts for only a fraction of a second. :-( I think that super/ultra caps have been used in

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Supercap, ultracap, Goldcap> take the plunge

2019-02-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Feb 2019 at 19:59, Paul Compton via EV wrote: > https://uk.farnell.com/cornell-dubilier/cdlc302p2r7lr/ultracapacitor3000f2-7v0 > -00026/dp/2113245?pf=110449709=PB3yvz0V97AaURYuqm4eafN2ZyPF9iml7r7lB73M > B86%2Fx%2BfBO7r66S6Hv%2Bm%2FSEP4fVg8mqr%2Fz6GvzLwg7Uq%2FbdzatR5QTfC%2F993%2FMw >

Re: [EVDL] Bright Way vs. Universal Power Group

2019-02-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 Feb 2019 at 19:43, Ken Olum via EV wrote: >You may want to check to see if Bright Way is just some outfit that buys >nameless batteries in China and slaps their own labels on them. > > How would I find out for sure? Just the "Bright Way" name itself has that aura about it. :-(

Re: [EVDL] Oil buying up EVSE.net charging> fossil buy-in

2019-02-18 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 18 Feb 2019 at 1:06, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Or how fast Nimh EV batteries became "unobtainium" as soon as Texaco > and then Chevron got hold of the patents? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was even before that. I may be remembering with an accent, but I think

Re: [EVDL] EV familiarity

2019-02-18 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 Feb 2019 at 18:02, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Is this legal under the NEC? On a 20 amp breaker, definitely. On a 30 amp breaker, probably not. I don't have a copy of the NEC handy, and I'm not a code expert, but IIRC the code has (or had) a provision for using a size smaller

Re: [EVDL] EV familiarity

2019-02-18 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I'm not a code expert, but as I understand it, in the addition to what Jay Summet said, the NEC generally prohibits connecting either 15 or 20 amp receptacles to a 30 amp branch circuit. Receptacles must be 30 amp. The fact that you're allowed to connect 15 amp 120v recepts to a 20 amp branch

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: £79k Mini EV 4sale.uk r:125mi ts:80mph 0-60mph:9.2s

2019-02-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 Feb 2019 at 2:22, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The extra elements have added 80kg to its weight but it is still a light car > tipping the scales at just 720kg. Almost a quarter century ago, the Evergreen Mini replica of 1995 weighed 330kg without the battery. It could support a battery of up

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mining tycoon pulling a JBstrubel to tap the global EV race

2019-02-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Feb 2019 at 21:21, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Ganfeng Lithium's agreement last year with Tesla, under which it will > supply a fifth of its production to Elon Musk's carmaker. Interesting. I wonder what effect that will have on Teslas' reliability and battery longevity. David Roden -

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: didi-rideshare.cn +baic EV.cn > (like GM's Lyft+Bolt deal)

2019-02-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 1 Feb 2019 at 23:43, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > new-energy vehicles (NEVs) Good grief, who coined THAT term? "New energy"? Apparently they didn't consult any physicists about conservation of energy. It's also just about the worse possible acronym, since NEV already means something else in

Re: [EVDL] 18650 cell level fuse wire

2019-01-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 Jan 2019 at 1:18, ken via EV wrote: > > What is a 10ths wire? > > ten thousands Wire of any kind or size is not an adequate substitute for a fuse. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information:

Re: [EVDL] Petulant trucker-hat-wearing duo of dolts foolishly finger-gesture !rump: chanting trucks ...

2019-01-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
It's a waste of time to try to reason with these proudly ignorant dupes. They'll just laugh at you, or worse. No point in arguing that EV owners are helping clean up their air, either. Clean air doesn't interest them. In fact, most of them deliberately fill their lungs -- and their

Re: [EVDL] Using EV to demo emergency power

2019-01-18 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
You're going to dismiss what I have to say, which is your prerogative. I just want othe people here to know that what you did was not a good idea. It was actually pretty dangerous. There are other adjectives I could use for it, but I'm more polite than that. > extension cord coming out of

Re: [EVDL] Watt-if: Remote L3 recharging service (Can this be provided?)

2019-01-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Jan 2019 at 22:26, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > How damn lazy can you get? Well, maybe not so much lazy as ... well, let's just say that there are people whose time is really valuable, some who think it is, and some who would like other people to think it is. :-\ It's off topic, but

Re: [EVDL] Rant: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Jan 2019 at 16:19, Willie via EV wrote: > From what little I know of CCars, I would say that the most horrible, > overwhelming weakness is the body material that falls apart after a > few sun years. They painted it with catalyzed acrylic enamel. That was supposed to provide some UV

Re: [EVDL] Need work space near Vallejo: RAV4 EV gen1 pack-replace

2019-01-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I can't think who would want two RAV4-EVs sans batteries. That's the most valuable (and scarce) part, no? I fear they'll end up parted out to repair ICE RAVs. I wonder if the drives could be hacked into something else. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] nissan leapfrogs in catch-up

2019-01-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Jan 2019 at 16:00, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I wonder if they've fixed their > horrible battery degregation problems. I don't have corroboration, but I recall reading that they're still relying solely on forced air battery cooling. The cell design may be different, though. David

Re: [EVDL] Rant: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 8 Jan 2019 at 13:15, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > I wonder if the USA is the wrong market for the Tango. Many other > countries do not have our preconceived notions of what a car "must" look like. I think you're right, to some extent. Europe and Asia are both more open to unconventional

Re: [EVDL] Rant: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
IMO, Rick's idea with the Tango was brilliant. Though the car was unconventional in appearance, I would even say weird, it was and is a rational design that should have appealed to briliant people. The problem was the car's price. The price sticker looked like it belonged on an exotic sports

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Volvo Polestar2 4dr fastback-shape EV r:300mi

2019-01-07 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 7 Jan 2019 at 2:02, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Anyone old-timer enough to remember when caranddriver.com was > poo-poo'ing EVs and wanted nothing to do with them? Of course! :-) I think they were the ones who panned the "Aesop" (a Toyota Paseo conversion). But they also expressed a

Re: [EVDL] The Electric tuk-tuk test> ... loves me, loves me not ...

2019-01-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Jan 2019 at 13:40, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > dailymail.co.uk The UK tabloids such as The Daily Fail pretend to be journalism, but are often pretty far from it. Some of their pieces are barely more credible (or useful) than items in the National Enquirer and Weekly World News. "The

Re: [EVDL] ¥380k/$4.5k e-wheelchair easier on planes> lowered Wh battery

2019-01-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Jan 2019 at 19:15, Gail Lucas via EV wrote: > https://www.travelscoot.com/ Travelscoots are (or at least were) pretty cool little folding scooters. Several years ago, I converted an early lead-battery powered Travelscoot to lithium with a 24v 10ah Ping battery, which worked out pretty

Re: [EVDL] Drop in replacement for 12350 lead battery

2019-01-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Jan 2019 at 13:18, Willie via EV wrote: > Valence salvage batteries I vaguley recall reading -- and I might be remembering wrong -- that when Valence went belly-up maybe 8-10 years ago, they dumped a huge load of batteries in various states of charge and condition behind their warehouse,

Re: [EVDL] Drop in replacement for 12350 lead battery

2019-01-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Jan 2019 at 18:29, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > This battery would increase power, life and range. (eGo scooter) However as > battery prices fall it still seems too expensive.  I'm not an expert on these things, but last I saw, your basic Chinese LiFePO4 cells were running around $1.30

Re: [EVDL] 2009 Toyota Prius - A123 Systems Hymotion Kit

2019-01-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Is Rich Rudman still plying his Manzanita trade out that way? IIRC a decade or so ago, he did some work on an enhanced Prius, "Piprius" I think he called it for "Plug In Prius." Maybe he could help. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Longer gegadyne.com battery cycle life & 50x faster charge time

2018-12-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I searched for the phrase "rapid kinetic Faraday reaction" from this post, and the only hits I got were 11 more copies of the very same news release. Seems a little suspicious, but what do I know? Also, I'm not an engineer, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK, the principal

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $50k flying EVs over San_Francisco-CA next year

2018-12-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Dec 2018 at 17:26, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > A pair of wings comes out of the sides of your vehicle and you take off > for your destination. Not without filing a flight plan you don't. > their car won´t be "a toy for rich guys" and will be "accessible for > regular people," with a target

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $130k Porsche's (turbo-less) Taycan Turbo performance EV

2018-12-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Dec 2018 at 17:06, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > oeturbo is vocabulary used for internal combustion engine > vehicles. It's also been used in other contexts, to the point where its original meaning is nearly lost. My computers used to have "turbo" buttons on them, for example. So I don't

Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Dec 2018 at 1:49, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > So, wasting untold millions in developing a new answer which is *proven* to be > much worse deal all around, is silly and a boondoggle. I have no clue how you > can't see that... "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when

Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Dec 2018 at 17:02, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > But when you look at costs at scale, I understand a recent study showed > hydrogen to be cheaper, by 3 to 1. Cheaper than what? David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I won't dismiss H2 quite as hard and fast as Lawrence just did, but I think he's mostly on the right track. Twenty years ago I thought that, despite its appreciably greater complexity and cost, potential safety issues, and lower efficiency, H2 might be the "magic bullet" for the range that

Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation “cleaner” (GHG emissions) than the grid

2018-12-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Dec 2018 at 11:44, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > oeThen at night, you may be charging on on "fossil" power; but it's just > getting back the power you "loaned" the grid by day. > > ITMm not so sure about this. We do store some PV for use later, but where we > canTMt, that resource just

Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation “cleaner” (GHG emissions) than the grid

2018-12-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 Dec 2018 at 4:58, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > Fuel cell vehicles are NOT off-topic (check the charter) Correct. However, if you read this page http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#conv You will find this statement: "Many years ago, EVDL members decided that fuel cell vehicles and

Re: [EVDL] waymo: clarify my points: auton EVs on NPR Fresh Air program ...

2018-12-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 Dec 2018 at 14:48, Willie via EV wrote: > "Unbiased" might mean "matches my bias". And "biased" might mean "doesn't match my bias." Which in turn might mean that "they aren't as far to my side as I am." :-( On average, today's NPR stations get about as many gripes from the left as

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Firearms shouldn't be discharged into a Tesla Pack

2018-12-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Didn't someone demonstrate several years ago that you could put a bullet through a LiFePO4 cell without significant fire hazard? Or is my memory playing tricks on me? I know that Tesla doesn't use LiFePO4. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] article: For the first time, a Chinese car is coming to the US—and it’s electric

2018-12-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Not so sure about this title. Qiantu might be the first Chinese car to be sold under its own name in the US, but it's not the first Chinese car here, not by a long shot. Volvo, Buick, and Cadillac have been selling Chinese- made ICEVs for a few years now. In fact, the Chinese automaker

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Toyota dealers say there is no sale$ demand.us forEVs

2018-12-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 13 Dec 2018 at 18:20, Peter Eckhoff via EV wrote: > I've seen some professionally done videos suggesting that hydrogen > will be the "fuel" in the later half of this century. Oh boy, here we go again. :-\ Just who paid for the production costs of those professionally made video

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Toyota dealers say there is no sale$ demand.us for EVs

2018-12-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
[Shrug] Their loss. In 1973, when the Mideast oil cartel shut the petroleum spigot down to a trickle, owners of 13mpg US-made land yachts were putting their names on waiting lists to buy 30mpg small cars. But it wasn't GM and Ford dealers that were collecting their "additional dealer

Re: [EVDL] Buying a leaf, SOH, GID etc

2018-12-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Dec 2018 at 13:18, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Essentially the percentage of capacity compared to new. > So 68% of 24kWh for a 2011-2015 or a 2016 S. > Or 68% of 30kWh for a 2016 SL or SV or a 2017 Leaf. With a lead battery, 68% of factory specified capacity would be considered a

Re: [EVDL] (junk,biased): auton EVs on NPR Fresh Air program ...

2018-12-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Dec 2018 at 3:47, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > While I thank Gail for the post, I disagree with Peter as IMO this is not > accurate information. And I disagree with you. This is factual and cautionary reporting, NOT fearmongering. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = =

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof> its stupid

2018-12-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Dec 2018 at 14:18, paul dove via EV wrote: > There were 6 million vehicles sold in the US in 2017. 50,000 model 3's is a > niche. >From July through October of 2018, Tesla sold 72,050 model 3 cars. In the same period, Toyota sold 87,912 Corollas. So Tesla is right on their tail, only

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof> its stupid

2018-12-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Dec 2018 at 11:47, Willie via EV wrote: > Perhaps you are not familiar with recent Model 3 sales figures? Correct, I wasn't, until I read your response and looked them up. >From July through August, Tesla sold 72,050 Model 3s in the US. (Or so they claim. Rather suspiciously, the sales

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof> its stupid

2018-12-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Dec 2018 at 9:22, Willie via EV wrote: > they will be a niche market and very unlikely to expand beyond the > niche category. A niche of a niche, because even today EVs themselves are still a niche item, and IMO will only become a true mass market product with continued strong promotion

Re: [EVDL] time rolls on

2018-12-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Dec 2018 at 10:46, Willie via EV wrote: > Wayne's URL, http://ev-blue.com/, now resolves to http://www.diyev.com/ > which seems not to be be well known forum. Has anyone heard anything of Wayne > recently? Here's what Wayne wrote here on 16 October 2016. You too can find this in the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Dec 2018 at 7:40, Willie via EV wrote: > Using Tesla supplied 120vac equipment, which will not do more than 12 > amps, a Model 3 charges at about 5mph on a "pretty good" 120vac outlet. > Teslas will reduce current draw if there is much voltage drop. So the > stated 200 miles in 8 hours seems

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Dec 2018 at 3:30, paul dove via EV wrote: > (Eight hours of charging TeslaTMs Model 3 from a wall socket will give > you your expected 200-plus miles of range.) Someone's math is off. You > can only get 1KW/h from a wall socket. Maybe 30 miles in 8 hours. > This statement isn't quite

Re: [EVDL] poor 2011 Leaf performance

2018-12-07 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 7 Dec 2018 at 16:58, Steve Heath via EV wrote: > The car is here:  http://www.evalbum.com/5368 Impressive! Even more so when you consider the low cost of conversion. Well done. You're absolutely right about the dismaying bloat of modern cars. For EV conversions, a light glider is the

Re: [EVDL] poor 2011 Leaf performance

2018-12-07 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 7 Dec 2018 at 10:30, Steve Heath via EV wrote: > To me it is very important as I have a small battery > pack - it is now around 6-7kw - and saving 10 or 20 watts per mile can make a > big difference. Better extend that detention. :-) I don't mean to make a big deal about this, but saying

Re: [EVDL] poor 2011 Leaf performance

2018-12-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 6 Dec 2018 at 17:28, Steve Heath via EV wrote: > The best mile/Kw I have got has been 180 and the worst is 230. Average > is 190 ... If you're getting 190 miles per kWh, I want your EV. I think you probably mean Wh/mile, not miles/kWh. > and this measurement is based on coulomb counting

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: CAD35k funky 2seat 17.6kWh EV> 2019 Smart Cabrio (L2@3kW-only) r-epa:101km/63mi

2018-12-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 Dec 2018 at 20:36, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Hard to believe the little Smart car had been around for ten years now. > Eh? Is this article from a time machine? Somewhere I have a photo I shot of a Smart in Paris in 1999. Wikipedia says it was introduced in 1998. > 2018 Smart Fortwo

Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Not that I want to start an argument, but IMO those folks who say "I don't need no stinkin' BMS!" should be required to watch the hot action part of that video clip at least once -- just so they give it a little more thought. The "live ammo" question from the firefighters is telling. It DID

Re: [EVDL] Buy um while you can: automaker cuts ...

2018-12-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Dec 2018 at 22:47, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > For other companies like Volvo, Volkswagen, and Toyota that are far from the > 200,000 car limit, ending the subsidies could seriously hurt their ambitious > goals to produce more " if not switch entirely to " electric vehicles in > the next few

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Nissan e-NV200& Chanje V8100 e-vans for FedEx testing

2018-11-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 23 Nov 2018 at 20:24, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > FedEx Express ... have been testing the e-NV200 in real world > operations. Amazingly all to help shape development of the 100% > electric compact delivery vehicle. Exactly why is this "amazing"? This is junk writing. If I were Seth

Re: [EVDL] Ford Transit XLT By Azure for Ford

2018-11-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Nov 2018 at 21:45, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > Does anyone know the background of this vehicle?  This would be one of the last vehicles converted by Azure Dynamics (formerly Solectria) before they declared bankruptcy in 2012. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_Connect_Electric >

Re: [EVDL] Hardware for my trike electrification. Still need batteries charger and bms.

2018-11-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Nov 2018 at 18:19, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: > What was the charger company that Roger Stockton worked for? Delta-Q David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = =

[EVDL] Ghosn out

2018-11-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
IIRC Ghosn pushed hard for the Nissan / Renault EV program. This could change things, maybe not for the better. QUOTE: Carlos Ghosn no longer able to lead Renault, says French minister Car executive, who is also chairman of Nissan, arrested in Japan over alleged misconduct Julia Kollewe and

Re: [EVDL] Request: 1976 Citicar parts & info for IL-auto-mechanics-class

2018-11-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Nov 2018 at 23:12, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Automotive instructor Jamie King said a well-functioning 1976 Vandguard > Citicar, known for its wedge-shape, might sell for $13,000 to $14,000 today. Seriously?! Who on earth wouild pay that much for a Citicar? For less than that, you can get

Re: [EVDL] Government Exonerates EVs> up2 5yrold $-30k used EVs-only

2018-11-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Nov 2018 at 19:22, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > This new decree benefits those that want to buy used electric cars of no > more than 5 years and a value of under $30,000.00 USD by exonerating them from > the selective consumption tax that corresponds to a 30% of the vehicleTMs CIF > (Cost,

Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

2018-11-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I don't know whether they still do, you'd have to check -- but Saft used to rebuild their cells and batteries (for a fee of course). Instead of recycling your NiCd cells, maybe you could have Saft rebuild them, and then sell them as essentially new ones. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL

Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

2018-11-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Here in scenic Summit County, Ohio, the county household hazardous waste dispoal site accepts NiCd cells of any size. You have to be a county resident to use the site, though. Also, they're only open one day a week, and only in the summer months. (!) David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL

Re: [EVDL] (TMC/pizza-the-hut-pr spoiler)> pizza-making-truck is not an EV

2018-11-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
When I was less well informed, HFCEVs sounded like a good idea to me. However, the more I learned about their relatively low efficiency, and the atrocious efficiency of hydrolysis, the less practical they looked. It's possible that with heroic development efforts, SOME of the inefficiency can

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $20/100mi sparkcharge> L3 recharges @1mi/min (v)

2018-11-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 30 Oct 2018 at 22:31, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > You fire up an app to have the case delivered to a location ... By EV or ICEV? Seems to me that they'd use a lot of energy to deliver a small amount of energy (from a "backpack sized" battery). Now if they were to fit the delivery vehicle with

Re: [EVDL] Easy to hard solar charging.

2018-10-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 30 Oct 2018 at 12:12, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Perhaps the panels could be stored when driving, and opened up when > parked? Sounds technically feasible, but limited in utility. For one thing, I don't think that the in most cases it would be feasible for the panels to expand beyond the

Re: [EVDL] Azure DMOC445 Programming

2018-10-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
>From what I could tell, Solectria/Azure tended to be somewhat proprietary. The Brusa inveters they sold in the early- to mid-1990s were pretty well documented, but more through Brusa than Solectria. Again, those were my impressions; others may have had different experiences. I got the

Re: [EVDL] Tesla 'Dog Mode' Keeps Pets() 105°F Safe> (Musk's gone2 dogs)

2018-10-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
As a dog and cat cohabitant, I really like this idea, but I have to wonder -- how necessary is it? Are Teslas so attractive to thieves that you can't leave the windows partly open while you're in the store or wherever? A dog is one of the best theft deterrents I know of. Most bad guys aren't

Re: [EVDL] Reconfigurable Battery Packs

2018-10-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 23 Oct 2018 at 13:13, bvgandhi via EV wrote: > I don't think weight is a factor here. I think the idea is to have a battery > health conscious system to improve longevity and reliability of usage, and to > have sufficient rest periods for batteries to recover discharge capacity. I > think

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla-3 drive unit gear pictures after testing

2018-10-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Oct 2018 at 19:36, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Tesla says that the Model 3 drive system is designed and validated for over > one million miles of range. Hey, Fred Lambert, that word that you used, "range" -- at least in an EV, it doesn't mean what you think it means. :-\ I take it this was

Re: [EVDL] Apple Converter ensures EV comforts don't suffer load-transients

2018-10-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Sounds like prior art to me. What am I missing? David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and

Re: [EVDL] Tesla...Can you imagine what could have happened?

2018-10-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 18 Oct 2018 at 22:50, robert winfield via EV wrote: > absolutely, categorically it is completely false to even imply that > Musk and the Saudi's were joining forces in any way except as > antagonists I can't see where "absolutely, categorically" false comes from here. Nor do I see any

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