Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-24 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I'd hoped to double the range, keep the weight roughly the same, and not having to pay more than around $2,000 to get there. That means doubling the power density (W/ft3), doubling the W/#, and keeping the $/W roughly the same. You'll probably need to go with Lithium to double your range.

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-24 Thread len moskowitz via EV
Lee Hart wrote: As others have said, 12v marine batteries are only a quick-n-dirty solution. They barely work as EV batteries. They are cheap initially, but performance is poor, and life is short. So I've learned. With any type of battery, the range is simply a function of how many you

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Jul 2016 at 13:21, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > These Deka 8G31 gels are very good EV batteries, but only if carefully > used. They are sealed, provide good range, and can last a long time -- > as long as premium flooded, and much than AGMs. I've used six Deka 8G24 batteries in my Elec-Trak

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Al Lumas via EV wrote: The six Deka 8G31 Group 31 GEL cell batteries in my 2005 GEM e825 Utility NEV lasted eight years. And then, the best deal on six new ones was from a solar system component distributor here in the south SF Bay area. These Deka 8G31 gels are very good EV batteries, but

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
len moskowitz via EV wrote: I have an old '90 VW Jetta EV conversion. Last time I changed the lead-acid batteries I put in ten 29-series marine batteries (that's around 12 kWh) that I bought from the local Costco for around $900. They lasted less than three years and gave me 25 - 35 miles per

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-24 Thread Al Lumas via EV
The six Deka 8G31 Group 31 GEL cell batteries in my 2005 GEM e825 Utility NEV lasted eight years. And then, the best deal on six new ones was from a solar system component distributor here in the south SF Bay area. Al Lumas At 05:09 AM 7/24/2016, len moskowitz via EV wrote: I have an old

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-24 Thread len moskowitz via EV
I have  an old '90 VW Jetta EV conversion. Last time I changed the lead-acid batteries I put in ten 29-series marine batteries (that's around 12 kWh) that I bought from the local Costco for around $900. They lasted less than three years and gave me 25 - 35 miles per charge - not really enough

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion? 

2016-07-23 Thread David Delman via EV
I say, "Lead is NOT dead!" I dont known of any price comparable lithium battery that will give the 1000+ amps that my Sears PM-1 battery can deliver. It all depends on what you want your battery to do. High current output, battery cycles etc. I struck a deal with my local Sears Auto store

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-23 Thread lektwik via EV
A Marine/RV battery is not a 'traction' battery and will have a very short life in an EV application. We are at the point where you won't be saving any money by using lead instead of lithium. Lead is Dead. On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Bobby Keeland via EV wrote: > I

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-21 Thread Bobby Keeland via EV
I don't know about Sam's Club, but in several Wal-Marts I have only been able to find starting batteries or the Marine/RV batteries. These batteries are a poor starting battery and an even worse 'imitation' deep cycle battery. I had one in an RV. It was pretty worthless. On Jul 21, 2016 1:02 PM,

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-21 Thread Cruisin via EV
You may want to consider NEW Volt Li-ion battery packs, not from a junkie with unknown capacity, and all the accessories needed including a BMS with wire harness. -- View this message in context:

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-20 Thread Tom Mandera via EV
On Wed, July 20, 2016 7:29 am, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > What national chain has the best deal on TEN lead acid deep cycle > (marine?) batteries. (Maryland) > This conversion will not be used for much but local errands, so I am not > investing in a long term future EV. Just want to get it

Re: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-20 Thread Jim Walls via EV
AM To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: [EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion? What national chain has the best deal on TEN lead acid deep cycle (marine?) batteries. (Maryland) This conversion will not be used for much but local errands, so I

[EVDL] Best deal on Lead Acid for conversion?

2016-07-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
What national chain has the best deal on TEN lead acid deep cycle (marine?) batteries. (Maryland) This conversion will not be used for much but local errands, so I am not investing in a long term future EV. Just want to get it rolling again. What's in it now have "29" in the battery label. I