Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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[EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread SLPinfo.org via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
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[EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread brucedp5 via EV
' efforts into self-driving technology and electric cars. Apple Inc. wasn't at the ... A search for electric autonomous cars also gave: http://www.autonews.com/article/20150406/OEM02/304069991/aston-martins-palmer-to-address-congress Aston Martin's Palmer to address congress Automotive News-18

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
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[EVDL] article: Global Electric Car Market Reached 740, 000 Units In 2014

2015-04-06 Thread Paul Wujek via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Here's the elephant in the room that I haven't seen addressed: When a self-driving car is involved in a fatal accident, who pays? Who goes to jail? I wouldn't want to be in a self-driving car because when (not if) something goes wrong, every personal injury lawyer in the country will be

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Paul Dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] The Tesla Factor: Elon Musk Will Force Auto Industry... GRILLS!

2015-04-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: The one sentence that caught my eye: Automakers may be big, lumbering, and risk-averse, but they are not stupid. Well they sure stand-in-line to copy each other's race to the ugliest GRILLS every seen since the Edsal. Is it just me or is the trend now in gas

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
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Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: EVs available on Amazon.co.jp

2015-04-06 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'You can’t 'Amazon an EV' in the U.S. but, ?soon?' http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/drive/article/electric-cars-now-available-on-amazon Electric cars now available on Amazon 1 April 2015 [image http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/assets/uploads/articles/bmw_i3_electric_reuters.JPG BMW's i3

[EVDL] EVLN: EVSE Networks Need Impartial 3rd-Party Regulation Or Die

2015-04-06 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://transportevolved.com/2015/04/01/opinion-why-electric-car-charging-networks-need-impartial-third-party-regulation-or-face-collapse/ Opinion: Why Electric Car Charging Networks Need Impartial, Third-Party Regulation Or Face Collapse April 1, 2015 By Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield [images

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla Factor: Elon Musk Will Force Auto Industry To Roll Out Self-Driving Cars Sooner Than You Think - Forbes

2015-04-06 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
Just put a stinking comment on the article, actually. He may be right on the autonomous vehicle issue but when he comes out with nonsense like 'the i8 is challenging the MS as the eco car of choice' you have to take anything else he says with a truck load of salt, let alone a pinch! MW On 6

[EVDL] EVLN: 8 TransPower Class8 e-trucks wins $9M CEC award

2015-04-06 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.pennenergy.com/articles/pennenergy/2015/03/power-distribution-transpower-announces-heavy-duty-electric-vehicle-achievements.html TransPower announces heavy-duty electric vehicle achievements March 27, 2015 [image

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla Factor: Elon Musk Will Force Auto Industry To Roll Out Self-Driving Cars Sooner Than You Think - Forbes

2015-04-06 Thread robert winfield via EV
i commented and pointed out the i8 gets a masssive 15 miles electric On Mon, 4/6/15, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Subject: Re: [EVDL] The Tesla Factor: Elon Musk Will Force Auto Industry To Roll Out Self-Driving Cars Sooner Than

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla Factor: Elon Musk Will Force Auto Industry To Roll Out Self-Driving Cars Sooner Than You Think - Forbes

2015-04-06 Thread Russ Sciville via EV
Well said Martin, The i8 is a sheep in wolves clothing. It is a very advanced body with a backward step regarding its drive. How can such a light car use more fuel then my Ampera when in ICE mode! Now a fully electric i8 would be of serious interest.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EVSE Networks Need Impartial 3rd-Party Regulation Or Die

2015-04-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
As liberal as I am, I think giving capitalism a 2nd try is a better approach. The author goes overboard with regulation. He's right on many of the points but, don't you think, some are more important than others: - reliability - payment method He also misses at least two vital issues: -

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla Factor: Elon Musk Will Force Auto Industry... GRILLS!

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
The one sentence that caught my eye: Automakers may be big, lumbering, and risk-averse, but they are not stupid. Well they sure stand-in-line to copy each other's race to the ugliest GRILLS every seen since the Edsal. Is it just me or is the trend now in gas cars to see who can make the biggest

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla Factor: Elon Musk Will Force Auto Industry To Roll Out Self-Driving Cars Sooner Than You Think - Forbes

2015-04-06 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] The Tesla Factor: Elon Musk Will Force Auto Industry To Roll Out Self-Driving Cars Sooner Than You Think - Forbes

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Removing a Nissan Leaf battery without an auto lift

2015-04-06 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Thanks, you had mentioned that they were sealed well before, and you are right! I didn't have an Air Chisel, and it was a REAL CHORE removing it with a hammer and 11/2 putty knife! I probably spent 2 hours breaking the seal But I eventually got it open: