I'm new to this and your discussion has me totally confused. What is 
the verdict? Sep 12v Battery for accessories or not??

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> On 06 Jun 2016, at 8:51 PM, Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> John Lussmyer wrote:
>> Putting 300VDC at the fingertips of the driver and passengers?
> 
> Note that normal 240vac has a peak of around 340v.
> 
> High-power accessories like heaters, air conditioners, power steering pumps, 
> etc. could run directly from the 300vdc. They would be hard wired, so 
> consumers wouldn't have access to the power leads for these.
> 
> Accessory outlets for charging things like your cellphone would still be 
> 12vdc. It would be provided by an isolated DC/DC converter.
> 
> I'd also expect that there would be an inverter to produce isolated 120vac, 
> so all sorts of things consumers are used to plugging in would now work in 
> the car.
> 
>> Main pack dies - you can't turn on the emergency flashers.
> 
> A backup system would be a good idea. But you don't need a 60 lbs battery to 
> supply it.
> 
>> 300VDC switches are MUCH more expensive and complex.
> 
> Not really. They are likely to be solid state switches, which are smaller and 
> cheaper than low-voltage-high-current switches.
> 
>> Accessories need to work over a large variation of voltage. (280-330 in my 
>> truck).
> 
> That's less than +/-10% range. Normal AC appliances already have to operate 
> with +/-10% variations in their supply.
> 
> I'm not saying there are NO problems. It's just that the problems are 
> different, and probably easier to handle with HV than LV.
> 
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