Re: [EVDL] Are other safety certifications accepted by cities & insurance?

2016-03-21 Thread Thos True via EV
In my many years of doing electrical work and installing a wide variety of electrical equipment, I have run into this issue numerous times. Due to the vigilant marketing by UL labs, most electrical inspectors are usually looking for that label. However, I have had reasonable success in getting them

Re: [EVDL] Are other safety certifications accepted by cities & insurance?

2016-03-21 Thread Arnold_Offner via EV
Both ETL -Intertek and UL are on the SAE J1772 Committee, and they both fall under the "Nationally Recognized Test Laboratory" (NRTL) program run by OSHA (Occupational Safety & Health Administration)here in the the USA. https://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/ The Listed or Recognized designatio

Re: [EVDL] Are other safety certifications accepted by cities & insurance?

2016-03-18 Thread Michael Ross via EV
In case this is not understood about UL listing (Can't speak to the others more than to say that common ones like CE are often a higher standard. In Europe they tend to be more sticklers and happier to accept regulation), there are real design minimums required to be UL certified. Things that mus

Re: [EVDL] Are other safety certifications accepted by cities & insurance?

2016-03-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
brucedp5 via EV wrote: it mentions the product is - Safety listed by ETL I know UL, but what is ETL? ETL is a competitor of UL. Same kinds of testing; just a different test lab (and usually cheaper). Both UL and ETL are independent testing companies. You pay them to test your product. They

[EVDL] Are other safety certifications accepted by cities & insurance?

2016-03-18 Thread brucedp5 via EV
Not to throw fuel on the previous EV vendors' guised-sniping on the evdl, but to try to let the layman understand the whats and whys of a safety certification. *Please keep flaming off line* In my EV news searches, I see a lot of self promotion items. Here is one for a 4.5kW EVSE http://www.wind