Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV

2015-05-23 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Maybe you did! It's hard to know the paths of information. -- Original Message -- From: Cruisin via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 23-May-15 5:54:01 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV I designed the first Li-ion

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV

2015-05-23 Thread Cruisin via EV
I designed the first Li-ion battery pack to power a car made from 8500 Panasonic and Sanyo 18650 cells to power my 1970 VW in 2004 resulting 35kw 200 mile range. This was done before Tesla developed their roadster. The batteries were sold to the engineers leaving my VW without. You can watch a

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV

2015-05-23 Thread Paul Dove via EV
I think it's possible they used your idea if this video was out there somewhere. Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Cruisin via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I designed the first Li-ion battery pack to power a car made from 8500 Panasonic and Sanyo 18650 cells to power my 1970

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV

2015-05-23 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Paul Dove via EV wrote: I think it's possible they used your idea if this video was out there somewhere. That, or Alan Cocconi's Tzero. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Propulsion_tzero Cocconi built Tzero in 1997 with lead-acid batteries. Martin Eberhard had him convert one to lithium laptop

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV

2015-05-22 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I thought Tesla used Panasonic batteries. On 5/22/2015 5:38 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: GenZe's e-bike models use the same Samsung batteries as the Tesla Model S to help supplement your pedaling. The battery is actually removable, so you can take it out of the bike and charge it at work with a

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV

2015-05-22 Thread Michael Ross via EV
I think your are right, but who really knows? It is all anecdotal to us mere mortals. Probably they are the same size. I don't think Panasonic and Samsung are using the same chemistry, and I think Samsung is not at the same levels of quality, etc. It could all be different tomorrow. On Fri,

[EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV

2015-05-22 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.businessinsider.in/What-its-like-to-ride-an-electric-bike-that-uses-the-same-batteries-as-a-Tesla-Model-S/articleshow/47275304.cms What it's like to ride an electric bike that uses the same batteries as a Tesla Model S Biz Carson0 May 14, 2015 [images / Business Insider