While I recognise that the political field is changing and as a result the car makers might change their direction, I also dedicate significant time to building EVs (I am involved with 2 light trucks that are refurbished with Leaf battery modules to make it a pretty utilitarian vehicle) as well as that I have refurbished several Leafs with better battery packs to regain original range (or close to that). Someone even asked me how to increase range by installing a 30kWh pack that they purchased into their original 24kWh Leaf and I think that can be done, so I sketched the process for them (they were too far away to go and be hands-on) so, I wil continue to spread the message even if car makers are moving in the opposite direction.
It will be interesting what Chinese investors such as BYD and FF are going to do, as well as local companies such as Tesla and Lucid for example, but also others with deep pockets like Google and Apple who should not be concerned what is happening with USA, since it is only a tiny fraction of the world market... If China and India and Europe and several countries of S America and Asia are moving to electric transportation then it is pretty irrelevant what happens in USA, besides a repeat of the 70's where the USA automakers were wiped away by events beyond their control due to their lack of preparation for change (not entirely unlike Dinosaurs). Indeed, time will tell. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Rush Dougherty via EV Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:07 AM To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GMonly sellingBolt in CA&OR ... I find it very interesting that since GM suddenly changed how they are going to present the Bolt to the public that we are actually discussing why they made that choice. Cor in an previous email said ' so now the federal govt is changing significantly', David said ' what governments do makes a big difference in whether EVs advance or retreat', Bruce wrote 'with today's new administration we are in for more than just a bumpy ride'. If that's not politics, I don't know what is... All I'm saying is just be cognizant of the fact that the car companies, the petroleum companies do NOT want electric vehicles... talk about it and if you want EV's in your/our future make sure that politicians know your wants, like that phrase -vote with your pocket book, or vote to have a cleaner more healthy future for you and your children. And If you don't want EV's to be in your future, why are you on this list? Bruce's daily emails are is invaluable and such a time saver for information about what is happening in the EV world This list is better that David's phrase, 'If and when no automaker will sell you an EV here in the US, or you can't get the type of vehicle you need with a motor under the hood, drop on by the EVDL. We'll be here to help.' Happy Thanksgiving to all, Rush Dougherty Tucson AZ 85719 > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:50 AM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA&OR ... > > Mark, > > I share the hope. > But I am also wondering why GM suddenly changed their roll-out strategy significantly > (reducing it and making it much more non-committal) just days after the surprising outcome of > the elections. Hard to believe that is a coincidence. > And that coupled to the automaker lobbying efforts already under way to abolish the CARB > mandates - where did we hear that before? > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless > > office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water > XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info > > http://www.proxim.com > > This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary > information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please > delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of > any part of this message is prohibited. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Mark Abramowitz via EV > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:33 AM > To: EVDL Administrator > Cc: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA&OR ... > > I hope and that that you are wrong in thinking it possible that EVs could become unavailable. > I expect a strong and vigorous market. > I'm also hopeful that a surging EV market will mean that EV conversions will grow along with > the main EV market. > > Sent from AltaMail > > > From: EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM > Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA&OR ... > Date: 11/20/16, 12:00 AM > > > History tells us that -- for better and/or worse -- what governments do > > makes a big difference in whether EVs advance or retreat. > > Bruce is 100% correct that GM's specific history predicts their current and future involvement > with EVs. As I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm still > > waiting for that Chevette EV that GM promised in 1978. I guess I'll be > > waiting a lot longer. > > (Disclosure: That's a rhetorical statement. Personally, I wouldn't buy any GM vehicle at any > price under any circumstances. Also, having known someone who owned a 1980 Chevette: > yikes, noooooooooo ....... ) > > All that said, unless the state or fed legislators make it illegal, the sure way to drive electric is > and probably aways will be to build your own. > > Normally that would entail converting an ICEV. > > I think I can safely say that EV conversion has been the EVDL's largest and most critical > mission since it was first launched at sjsu.edu 25 years > ago. > If and when no automaker will sell you an EV here in the US, or you can't get the type of > vehicle you need with a motor under the hood, drop on by the EVDL. 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