Sorry, hadn’t seen this post.

I think this piece of the puzzle may be the real game-changer.

- Mark

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> On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:48 AM, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
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> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Nikola-claims-4x-energy-2k-cycle-50-cheaper-li-ion-tp4695719.html
> EVLN: Nikola claims 4x-energy, 2k-cycle, 50% cheaper li-ion
> Nov 20  2019
> ]
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> https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2019/11/24/nikola-motors-bombshell-battery-claim-irks-experts-who-think-its-secret-may-lie-in-sulfur/#6a21e9057d89
> Nikola Motor’s Bombshell Battery Claim Irks Experts, Who Think Its Secret
> May Lie In Sulfur
> Nov 24, 2019  Alan Ohnsman
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> [image  
> https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5dd897d62c886a0007ecdfee/960x0.jpg?fit=scale
> Nikola Tre
> The electric Nikola Tre commercial truck is to be offered as a
> battery-powered model or with a ... [+]NIKOLA
> ]
> 
> Nikola Motor CEO Trevor Milton seems dead set on challenging Elon Musk’s
> dominance for audacious transportation ideas, upstaging the Tesla chief’s
> “Cybertruck” debut with a claim that his own ... electric vehicle company
> has a breakthrough battery. Experts suspect Nikola’s secret tech derives
> from cell chemistry that scores of researchers are also digging into.
> 
> Milton, whose Phoenix-based startup intends to start delivering
> zero-emission semi-trucks in 2021, said last week that Nikola’s battery cell
> has double the energy density, only 40% of the weight and half the cost of
> 2170 lithium-ion cells used in Teslas and other consumer-market electric
> vehicles. He tells Forbes those gains come from eliminating costly metals
> such as nickel, cobalt and magnesium, use of a “free-standing electrode” and
> a “whole different type of chemical, with a lithium component.” ... it plans
> to offer battery-only variants.
> 
> The new cell was developed by a specific university lab Nikola was involved
> with from an early stage and “locked up all the IP,” Milton says. That’s all
> the company is saying for now and public demonstrations won’t happen until
> the second half of 2020.
> 
> Today In: Business
> “I have a strong conviction that it’s safe to dismiss this out of hand—their
> claims are ridiculous,” said Sam Jaffe, managing director of Boulder,
> Colorado-based consulting firm Cairn Energy Research Advisors, which
> specializes in energy storage technology. “Why would they claim this without
> waiting until they could publicly reveal what the chemistry is and the
> university laboratory they are working with? It’s very fishy.”
> 
> Sulfur is one possible alternative to current lithium-ion cells, Jaffe said.
> “I would assume they’re looking at sulfur in the cathode and lithium metal
> in the anode. Untold hundreds of university and industry labs are working on
> that. If you get to those, if you can make it work, it would have a
> significant improvement on current lithium-ion, but nowhere near what they
> are claiming.”
> [© forbes.com]
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> 
> + (cheaply made li-ion.cn explodes)
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/video/electric-vehicle-battery-explodes-while-charging-in-store-in-wenzhou-china/vp-BBXsk1d
> Electric Vehicle Battery Explodes While Charging in Store in ...
> An electric vehicle battery exploded while charging in a store in Wenzhou,
> China, on November 25, 2019 ...
> https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/video/video.storyful.com/7cbb8ea0852b8346281fa74e61a32382
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