Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Mar 2015 at 18:07, Ed Blackmond via EV wrote: The Honda EVPlus had much better range than the Nissan Leaf. When I was forced to give it back after six years and 60,000 miles, I could still drive more than 100 miles on a charge. And you lithium guys tell me I'm a derelict still thinking

Re: [EVDL] Motors in Parallel

2015-03-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
Dual motors are not new idea, and have brought success in the EV-past. Many years ago when there were few off-the-shelf EV components, Robert Schneeveis built an Electric race car SnoWhite using two 8 ADC Electric motors: http://www.cafeelectric.com/images/Snowhite1.jpg There are a few EV old

[EVDL] EVLN: VW 'might' offer a 6th-gen Electric Transporter T6

2015-03-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'VIDOEV.cn has cloned and re-engineered a four-door Beetle as a lsEV' http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015/commercial/volkswagen/kombi-transporter/volkswagen-teases-sixth-gen-transporter-4 Volkswagen teases sixth-gen Transporter John Mahoney 20 March 2015 [images

[EVDL] BBC pink-slipped, dropped, sacked, axed, booted, terminated TG's Clarkson

2015-03-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'EVs Outlive Dinosaur Clarkson, EV Owners Rejoice' [ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-BBC-TG-Clarkson-suspended-misled-the-public-about-Tesla-EVs-tp4674200.html EVLN: BBC-TG-Clarkson suspended misled the public about Tesla EVs Mar 11 2015

[EVDL] EVLN: $199mo 2Yr Honda Fit EV Lease, nil-improvements, few2get r:82mi

2015-03-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% Milking the same-o 1100 lease-only compliance-car EVs as long as possible for ice-sales-credits % http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1097320_lease-extensions-for-honda-fit-ev-two-years-at-199-a-month-to-be-offered Lease Extensions For Honda Fit EV, Two Years At $199 A Month, To Be Offered By

[EVDL] EVLN: Nissan Leaf vs Volkswagen e-Golf, Compare EVs

2015-03-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1097276_nissan-leaf-vs-volkswagen-e-golf-compare-cars Nissan Leaf Vs Volkswagen e-Golf: Compare Cars By John Voelcker March 22, 2015 [images http://static.hgmsites.net/images/cache/2015-nissan-leaf_100473860_300x200.jpg

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread tomw via EV
One way to approach it would be to use a look up table of measured vehicle energy per mile, and google maps (courtesy of USGS). The driver would be required to enter their destination. Present location would be read from a GPS. A proposed route map would appear on the screen, which the driver

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread Jamie K via EV
Good points, Ben. It's interesting to note how gas gauges are set up, psychologically. Here's one explanation: http://theappslab.com/2010/12/21/how-does-your-gas-gauge-really-work/ Compared to that, I appreciate the numeric charge percentage display on LEAF V1.5. Cheers, -Jamie On

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] LEAF Version Distinctions

2015-03-26 Thread Jamie K via EV
Thanks Alan. I think you summed up the used LEAF choices perfectly. We were in that exact place a year and a half ago when we found a decent deal on our 2013 as a barely used car. Cheers, -Jamie On 3/26/15 12:52 PM, Alan Brinkman via EV wrote: Jamie, Your description of the variations

Re: [EVDL] How I purchased a totaled Leaf for the battery pack

2015-03-26 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Great write up, it should be very helpful to anybody that wants the pack or parts. Rush www.TucsonEV.com -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Jay Summet via EV Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:39 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List

Re: [EVDL] How I purchased a totaled Leaf for the battery pack

2015-03-26 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Jay Summet via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I purchased Hoja just to obtain the LiIon modules in the battery pack, and was happy to find that the dash console reports that the battery has the full 12 bars of capacity, even though he has almost 19K miles under

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread Jamie K via EV
On 3/26/15 10:36 PM, Ed Blackmond via EV wrote: On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Jamie K via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: For example, if the display shows 50%, then 50% of 20kWh is 10kWh. Why bother with the intermediate conversion to KWH? If you know how far you can go on 50%, then you are

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Jamie K via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: For example, if the display shows 50%, then 50% of 20kWh is 10kWh. Why bother with the intermediate conversion to KWH? If you know how far you can go on 50%, then you are done. With my 2011 Leaf, I know I can travel 10

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread Jamie K via EV
On 3/26/15 8:57 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote: That's the idea behind my suggestion of a remaining (usable) kWh gauge, For a century or so drivers have done just fine with a remaining (usable) gallons of fuel gauge and a basic idea of how far they can make it on a gallon of fuel based on

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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[EVDL] How I purchased a totaled Leaf for the battery pack

2015-03-26 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wrote up details about the Salvage Auto-Auction process at CoPart and my experiences purchasing a wrecked Nissan Leaf at the following URL, along with a few pictures:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Mar 2015 at 19:57, Ben Goren via EV wrote: That's the idea behind my suggestion of a remaining (usable) kWh gauge ... Sounds good to me. Solectria had a simple answer to this. They gave you a straightforward amp- hour meter. As you drove, it counted up; as you charged, it counted

Re: [EVDL] charging two parallel packs in series

2015-03-26 Thread Michael Kadie via EV
So I drew a really crude wiring diagram. http://goo.gl/kAj5wH Note that it is important the two packs are balanced within a few volts of each other after the series charging. Otherwise when you reconnect them in parallel they will arc across the connector and cross charge at a VERY HIGH

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $199mo 2Yr Honda Fit EV Lease, nil-improvements, few2get r:82mi

2015-03-26 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
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[EVDL] LEAF Version Distinctions

2015-03-26 Thread Jamie K via EV
It might be useful to make version distinctions when discussing the LEAF: -We might call the 2011 and 2012 model years LEAF V1. -Models from 2013 forward (a year of major changes) we might call LEAF V1.5. -The upcoming 150-200+ range LEAF we might call LEAF V2 (unless Nissan gives it

Re: [EVDL] charging two parallel packs in series

2015-03-26 Thread Ing. Marco Gaxiola via EV
Steve, Bill; I made this schematic, also complementing the one Michael sent, but using an automatically 'connect/disconnect' for both packs at charging and use modes. https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/109469848356360136281/albums/613061501260

Re: [EVDL] charging two parallel packs in series

2015-03-26 Thread Ing. Marco Gaxiola via EV
- Cor, You cannot get rid of coil 3 because you would short circuit Pack A when charging, same for coil 4 would short circuit pack B when charging. - Ohh yes, this is just an illustrative schem. Sure; giving some extra Seconds delay to the 'ignition relay cut off' circuitry by

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread tomw via EV
I think the ~70 Wh/lb is too low of specific energy for longer range ev's David. The lithium cobalt chemistry used by Tesla is much higher, ~250 for bare cells, and their battery pack is still ~1 ton. Would be nice to have about twice the Tesla cell specific energy. But I agree the NiMH seems

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics Critics (?)

2015-03-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Mar 2015 at 6:26, tomw via EV wrote: One way ... a look up table of ... vehicle energy per mile, and .. maps ... The driver would be required to enter their destination. Great if you need navigation to get where you're going, but otherwise, I'm not so sure. This sounds like too much

Re: [EVDL] LEAF Version Distinctions

2015-03-26 Thread Alan Brinkman via EV
Jamie, Your description of the variations of the Leaf is helpful. I have been watching the used price of Leafs (Leaves) for some time now and they have come down into the affordable range for me. I see a difference in charging rate and also the changes in 2013. I need to get my research done

Re: [EVDL] charging two parallel packs in series

2015-03-26 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Actually - whether they will charge at a high rate of charging when connected in parallel again, depends on their internal resistance and the voltage difference. Many people have attempted to balance-charge by connecting all cells/batteries in parallel without getting a perfect balance, due to

Re: [EVDL] charging two parallel packs in series

2015-03-26 Thread Ing. Marco Gaxiola via EV
Steve, Per what my logic tells me; there won't be any problem doing like, and it comes to my mind that you should do it 'automatically'... this means that instead of using Anderson connections, use medium amperage rate contactors, being driven by the same power the charger receives, so

[EVDL] charging two parallel packs in series

2015-03-26 Thread Steve Clunn via EV
Subject: [EVDL] Open Circuit Voltage Across Contactors I've got two Anderson contacts on my pack, one on the negative side and one on the positive side. So when the key is out of the ignition, the controller and all other components are separated from the traction pack. I currently have a 120V

Re: [EVDL] charging two parallel packs in series

2015-03-26 Thread Bill Dennis via EV
...but the idea of charging in 'series' instead or parallel, is the PFC-30 will provide more watts at higher voltage: 288Volts than charging at 144V? The question Steve was addressing was originally mine. And yes, halving the charging time is the idea. Since the PFC-30 is limited to the max