[EVDL] article: Harnessing 'Spooky Action at a Distance' To Make a Better Battery
This article postulates that elements of a cell can be charged using quantum entanglement (if you don't know what that means please read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement). http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/theorized-quantacell-quantum-batteries-may-offer-super-fast-charging According to the article one cell could be used to charge essentially the whole pack in parallel. Some musings about the implications if it becomes possible to make batteries this way: The neat thing about entanglement is that the entangled particles can be *any* distance from each other. The cells of the entangled battery could be separated by any distance. If we can charge through entanglement then if follows that we can discharge the same way. You could take one cell in the car and leave the rest at home charging at the same time the car is travelling. The cells that aren't in the car could stay at the factory and just get charged off the grid, as a service. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla-X CAUGHT Hauling Freight on Highway101 Gilroy-CA
http://gas2.org/2015/07/31/tesla-model-x-spotted-hauling-a-trailer/
Tesla Model X Spotted Hauling A Trailer
July 31st, 2015 by Zachary Shahan
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We’ve got more spy shots! In the latest two, via Teslarati, you can see a
Tesla Model X mule/release candidate hauling a big trailer (presumably with
weights in it) while hauling ass. Check ’em out:
It’s been said before, but in case you missed that, Model X towing capacity
is supposed to be close to 10,000 pounds [
http://gas2.org/2015/06/22/tesla-model-x-towing-capacity-close-to-1-pounds/
]. Here are more details from our earlier post on the topic:
a Tesla executive let slip that the Model X will have a Class III towing
capacity and will tow “close to 10,000 pounds.”
That Tesla exec was Jim Chen, VP of Regulatory Affairs who was speaking at
the Georgia Technology Summit back in April. He makes his comments at around
9:40 in the video linked here [
http://tagtvonline.com/tag-events/2015-gts/viewvideo/1444/2015-gts/featured-speaker-jim-chen
] (embedding was disabled…) after discussing the falcon-wing doors on the
Model X. After noting that this was not a much-discussed feature, Chen says;
“This vehicle will have Class III towing capability. That means over 5,000
pounds, actually close to 10,000 pounds of towing capability.”
And he’s not wrong. A Class III rating allows for a Gross Trailer Weight
(GTW) of up to 8,500 pounds. So if you have a 1,500 pound trailer you can
lug around another 7,000 pounds of whatever. While not quite 10,000 pounds
that Chen quotes, a Class III hitch can handle a wide variety of loads,
including a medium-sized travel trailer or a decent-sized fishing boat.
It’s really hard to imagine, but the Model X is going to blow the
competition out of the water. It is almost guaranteed to be the quickest
SUV/CUV ever produced. It will be able to tow 8,500 or so pounds. It will
supposedly have some amazing second-row seats. It looks sharp. It is a
super-efficient electric vehicle. And it has falcon-wing doors. Elon, you a
monster!
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CAUGHT: Tesla Model X Hauling Freight on CA Highway
[2015-07-31]
http://mashable.com/2015/08/05/tesla-model-x-september/
It's official: Tesla Model X SUV is coming in September
[20150805] In a letter to shareholders, Elon Musk's electric car company
confirmed Wednesday afternoon that its long-awaited Model X — an electric
seven-seater SUV ...
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/31/petrol_cars_tesla_cto/
Petrol cars are dead in the water, says Tesla CTO waving numbers ...
[2015-07-31] That's according to JB Straubel, the CTO of electric-car maker
Tesla, who gave a keynote earlier this month at the InterSolar conference in
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'There should be incentives for buying used electric vehicles'
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Tesla L2-HPMC/destination EVSE @9 hanglung.com shopping-malls.cn
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Re: [EVDL] suggestions for non-conductive battery box liner?
I like epoxy-based spray-in pickup truck bedliner material. (Not the rubbery glop, but the rock-hard stuff that you mix and apply with an undercoating gun while wearing a good respirator.) You can apply it right over bare, clean, degreased, etched steel. It should be available from a store that sells auto body materials. You can also contract with a professional applier who usually does truck beds. That will cost more, of course, but you won't have to worry about the poisonous fumes from the spraying. I take no credit for this idea. Mary Ann Chapman first suggested here on the EVDL in the mid-1990s. She used it in her Desert Lightning conversion pickups' battery boxes. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] suggestions for non-conductive battery box liner?
I will soon be replacing the lead acid golf cart batteries in my truck with lithium cells (from a Nissan Leaf). Currently, the battery boxes are lined with (decaying) 3/16 plywood, as well as 1/2 insulation foam on the bottom, as well as surrounding the batteries. I'm interested in replacing the plywood with something non-conductive, and chemically inert (won't rot). It should be 3/16 (or thinner). I think I'd prefer rigid material, but would consider spray tack adhesive and a roll of rubberized material of some sort as well. I plan on using the 1/2 foam again inside of it, so it doesn't need to be very shock absorbing. What suggestions do people have? I'm willing to pay up to three times as much as 3/16th plywood would cost, but the cheaper the better. I'd prefer things that can be purchased at a Home-Depot or Lowes, although I've ordered from McMaster Carr before Thanks, Jay ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] suggestions for non-conductive battery box liner?
Polyethylene https://www.interstateplastics.com/king-starboard-marine-board.php?searchtext=king%20starboardkw=king%20starboardgclid=COWny5fllccCFRCCaQodZcEObg Sent from my iPad On Aug 6, 2015, at 7:40 PM, Jay Summet via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I will soon be replacing the lead acid golf cart batteries in my truck with lithium cells (from a Nissan Leaf). Currently, the battery boxes are lined with (decaying) 3/16 plywood, as well as 1/2 insulation foam on the bottom, as well as surrounding the batteries. I'm interested in replacing the plywood with something non-conductive, and chemically inert (won't rot). It should be 3/16 (or thinner). I think I'd prefer rigid material, but would consider spray tack adhesive and a roll of rubberized material of some sort as well. I plan on using the 1/2 foam again inside of it, so it doesn't need to be very shock absorbing. What suggestions do people have? I'm willing to pay up to three times as much as 3/16th plywood would cost, but the cheaper the better. I'd prefer things that can be purchased at a Home-Depot or Lowes, although I've ordered from McMaster Carr before Thanks, Jay ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Offset Supercharging degradation w/ pack balancing
That technology is not on every vehicle manufactured. Some will never be willing to pay for it. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On Aug 4, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Alan Arrison via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: We already went round and round with this no self discharge, no BMS fellow a few months ago. Yes, we did. I think a good analogy might be the Tire Pressure Monitoring System found in every new car for ages. You could probably make a similar argument that those sorts of things are utterly worthless since any idiot with a $2 pressure gauge can check if the tires need air or not, so why pay the hundreds of dollars it costs the manufacturers to put it in every car? If the obvious and substantial benefits of TPMS aren't obvious to somebody, and if the fact that the cost-conscious penny-pinching manufacturers don't try to make a few hundred dollars extra profit for themselves by leaving it out of their designs isn't enough to get that person to re-think opposition to TPMS...then there's basically not going to be any way to get through to that person. b -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150804/5d6770b4/attachment.pgp ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Younger,Middle-Class Buying Used $70k Tesla-S
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1099349_who-buys-used-teslas-younger-more-middle-class-buyers-analysis-says Who Buys Used Teslas? Younger, More Middle-Class Buyers, Analysis Says By John Voelcker Jul 30, 2015 [image http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/analysis-of-sales-of-used-tesla-model-s-electric-cars-edmunds-july-2015_100520971_m.jpg (table) Analysis of sales of used Tesla Model S electric cars, Edmunds, July 2015 ] [image] 2015 Tesla Model S P85D - 'Chiseled by man and nature' / George Parrott It's now pretty clear that used electric cars in the mass market depreciate more rapidly than their gasoline counterparts, even after netting out the effect of financial incentives. Early data shows the 200-mile-plus Tesla Model S, on the other hand, holds its value as a used car much better. But who are the people who are actually buying those used Model Ses? Edmunds has studied the sales of used Teslas by looking at registration data for the more than pre-owned 1,600 Model S cars resold thus far (out of total U.S. sales of 45,000 to 50,000 cars through June). The used car market is giving Tesla the opportunity to expand its demographic and geographic reach, it concluded, by making the car available to a younger and more diverse set of buyers. [image] Tesla Model S at Volta Industries charging station The used Model S data proves that with a more attainable price tag, said Edmunds.com Director of Industry Analysis Jessica Caldwell, there is demand for the vehicle from a more diverse customer set. Used Tesla sales have dispersed the cars beyond their California-centric buyer base: While more than 40 percent of all new Model S sales occur in the Golden State, only 30 percent of the used Teslas stay in the state. States that over-index on used Tesla registrations include Washington, Florida, New Jersey, Texas, and Arizona. It's worth noting that two of those states--Arizona and Texas--forbid the direct online sale of new Tesla cars, meaning used sales may help the company expand its footprint there. As for the buyers themselves, they skew younger and can no longer all be dubbed wealthy, trend-setting customers--in the words of the analysis. More than one-third earned less than $100,000 a year, versus just 25 percent for new buyers. And while just 6 percent of new Model S buyers are Millennials (aged 18 to 34), that number rises to 10 percent for used Teslas. The used Tesla sales break the customary pattern of used luxury cars overall, in fact. While it's not uncommon to see used luxury vehicles travel out of large flagship hubs, said Caldwell, it is unusual to see it happen to this ... degree. And, Edmunds concludes, that bodes well for the prospects of Tesla's promised $35,000 Model 3 electric car, with a 200-mile range, which is currently slated to arrive sometime during 2017. [© greencarreports.com] http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/07/30/used-tesla-sales-increase-with-wider-audience/30843761/ Younger buyers opt for used Teslas Becca Smouse July 30, 2015 ... Now that Teslas are starting to hit the used-car market, they show the potential to attract more younger, less affluent buyers and could expand the audience for the luxury electric-car maker, according to a recent study by Edmunds.com. An analysis by car-buying site Edmunds.com looked at the registration data of all Tesla Model S vehicles sold in the U.S., It found more middle-class and young buyers are opting for used ones. The study showed that you don't have to be rich to be driving a Tesla, the breakthrough electric luxury car that usually starts new at about $70,000. The analysis shows 36% of all used Model S buyers earned less than $100,000 per year, while only 25% buyers who bought a new model fit in the same category. The Model S sedan, the only product that Tesla is currently delivering, hit the market in 2012 so it is relatively new in the used-car market. Tesla's only previous car was the two-seat electric Roadster. Edmunds analyst Jessica Caldwell says this shows the company is beginning to expand sales beyond entertainment moguls and Silicon Valley executives. What we're seeing is that it's a lot more diverse than the new car population and the new car buyer, Caldwell says. About 10% of all pre-owned Model S buyers are to those ages 18 to 34. This is a stark increase compared to the 6% of all new Model S buyers in the same age range. I think Millennials are interested in the technology, in the company, in Elon Musk, Caldwell says. The Model S, for what is it is, it's really practical. I think that it's something that's inspirational for people. Tesla sales are also spreading past the West Coast, according to analysis. Several states, including Florida, Washington, Texas, and Arizona, saw significantly more used Model S vehicles sold, compared to sales for the same model sold new. I think the fact that you are seeing Model S in a more diverse area is a promising sign, Caldwell says. It's
[EVDL] EVLN: Finnegan’s eroadster.net EV.ie r:250+km 0-100pkh:10s
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/ireland-is-working-on-a-futuristic-electric-vehicle-apparently-98326.html
Ireland Is Working on a Futuristic Electric Vehicle, Apparently
by Ionut Ungureanu 31st July 2015
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Ever since the DeLorean DMC-12 happened, little did the automotive industry
hear of vehicles being manufactured in these northern parts. However, the
mysterious world of modern machinery has its way, and we could find
ourselves being overwhelmed by yet another newborn that takes the shape of
an electric vehicle.
Meet eroadster, Alex eroadster; it's a new 2-seater electric car currently
in the preps in Co. Louth, Ireland. It may not be a Tesla Model S
competitor, but it could just make for proper e-machine. The design is the
brainchild of Tom Finnegan’s, an Irish inventor who is currently working
with a company called Swift Composite Prototypes. They recently announced
plans to develop and build a sporty EV with a bad name. OK, maybe we're
mean, but they could have found something catchy-er.
What’s so special about this thing, anyway? According to the company
manufacturing it as we speak, it will have very little evidence of
traditional car build materials opting instead for new and radical
materials, thus achieving massive weight reduction. Here’s a bit of the
car’s official description:
“The car will be made of ultra- lightweight advanced composite materials
including Carbon Fiber (used extensively in F1 technology) and Kevlar (used
in bullet proof vests/glass). It will weigh in more than 30% lighter than
most similar sized cars while being both stronger and safer at the same
time.”
In terms of specs, we’re looking at the 250+ km (155+ miles) range, a 0 to
100 km/h (62 mph) reach in under 10 seconds and fast charging capabilities.
How will they make it better than regular companies? Through a powerful AC
motor with regenerative braking coupled with the latest advanced
nanotechnology batteries, apparently.
Underneath the lifting roof will be an array of lightweight solar
photovoltaic cells, which will provide a small amount of extra power to the
car as well as helping to pump back some charge into the batteries when the
car is not in use.
Add a futuristic look, lifting roof and doors, a tablet that can be removed
from the dashboard and that allows the driver to communicate with the car
and you get the big picture.
When will we see it on the road? Sometime next year, but there’s still no
word on prices and other marketing details. Time will tell.
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Latest Electric Car Two-Seater Alex Eroadster Is The First Ireland-Made Car
Since The DeLorean
By J.E. Reich, Tech Times | July 31, 2015
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EVLN: ALEX eroadster EV to be made in Ireland
Jul 01 2015
https://www.mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/msg12847.html
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http://www.eroadster.net/
Ireland's first production electric car called the Alex eroadster.
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