Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen will have a role. (just not in cars)...

2015-10-18 Thread fotajoye via EV
Yes, hydrogen has a role; long distance fuel cell hybrid airliners.  Works
like this: Use the hydrogen fuel cell to create electricity that will drive
electric motor ducted fans directly and charge buffer batteries that will be
used for acceleration and intermittent power.   The major advantage is you
no longer burn hydrocarbon in the upper atmosphere and you create water. 
The future will be fuel cell aircraft for long distance air travel and
hyperloops for medium distance travel between cities.  An airplane will no
longer be needed for travel between San Francisco and Los Angeles, or Boston
and Washington, etc.   

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[EVDL] EVLN: Solar-Sal PV-eboat> 6day Erie-Canal Troy-MI to Buffalo-NY voyage

2015-10-18 Thread brucedp5 via EV


'I’m super excited> 1st ever canal-eboat cargo-delivery that does not use
fossil fuel or mules'

http://www.oneidadispatch.com/general-news/20151015/solar-powered-powered-boat-plying-the-erie-canal
Solar-powered powered boat plying the Erie Canal
By Glenn Griffith  10/15/15

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Left to right: Mohawk Scenic Towpath Byway Executive Director Eric Hamilton
and David Borton, the captain of Solar Sal at the Schenectady Yacht Club in
Rexford

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A welcoming party for Solar Sal cuts a red ribbon signifying the voyage
opening the Erie Canal to solar powered traffic
]

CLIFTON PARK >> After a six day voyage east, the first solar-powered cargo
vessel to use the Erie Canal in its long history docked at the Schenectady
Yacht Club in Rexford last Friday under soggy skies but exuberant spirits.

It’s traveling from Troy to Buffalo.

The Oct. 9 arrival of the 40-foot, specially built boat, Solar Sal,
coincided with the 75th anniversary of the yacht club and the 10th
anniversary of the Mohawk Towpath Scenic Byway.

Representatives of both organizations greeted the vessel, its three person
volunteer crew, and its cargo of recycled cardboard. Joining them were
Assemblyman Jim Tedisco, R-Glenville, and Clifton Park Supervisor Philip
Barrett.

“This just shows that the ingenuity and the cutting edge technology that’s
available today is being harnessed and used effectively,” Barrett said.
“Congratulations to everybody involved. We’re glad to be here.”

The boat, with its rooftop photovoltaic [PV] panels, was designed by retired
RPI professor David Borton and built by students from the Schodack School
District under the guidance of an area boat builder. Borton taught solar
energy engineering at the Troy college for 33 years and captained the ship
on its canal trip.

“The original design for the engines came from the early 1900s when they
used Naphtha, an early form of gasoline,” Borton said. “But with the solar
cells, even on a cloudy day like this one we could be moving along the
canal. It wouldn’t be much more than two or three knots but there’s enough
sunlight to give us power.”

The boat has a 28 inch draft when loaded and a 24 draft unloaded. When the
sun is shining, the boat’s 5kW solar arrays can generate more power than its
two Torqueedo electric motors can use. Borton’s engineering skills allows
the vessel to run at peak performance (5 knots) using only half power.

The ship’s cargo for the trip was 6 bales (12 tons) of recycled cardboard
bound for Cascades Paper in Mechanicville.

Chamber of Southern Saratoga County Executive Director Pete Barduinas
credited members of the yacht club and the Mohawk Towpath Scenic Byway for
working hard to preserve the history along the canal.

“There’s a lot of things that happened on this canal over a period of years,
some of them right here, and that’s fun to see,” Bardunias said. “Now we
have Solar Sal making the first ever cargo delivery in the history of the
canal that does not use fossil fuel or mules. This boat performed very well
in some awful weather. But the cargo is still sitting there as dry as when
we loaded it. I’m super excited.”
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[EVDL] EVLN: €37k HacettepeU.tr EVT-S1 Production EV 100Wh/1km@90kph r:450km

2015-10-18 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.dailysabah.com/automotive/2015/10/14/turkeys-hacettepe-university-undertakes-domestic-electric-car-production
Turkey’s Hacettepe University undertakes domestic electric car production
[2015/10/14]

[image
http://i.tmgrup.com.tr/dailysabah/2015/10/14/HaberDetay/1444825499797.jpg
(EVT S1)
]

Located in Ankara and ranked among the best universities in the country,
Hacettepe University produced Turkey's first entirely domestically produced
electric car. The automotive achievement was displayed for the first time
for the Sabah Daily's Ankara office.

Named "EVT S1," the vehicle is considered as one of the most suitable models
developed in Turkey for mass production. The expected price tag is $50,000.

Developed in the university research and development zone "Teknokent," EVT
S1 was designed and produced by a team of Teknokent engineers and
Hacettepe's Department of Automotive Engineering students.

The vehicle has already been presented to Turkey's President, Recep Tayyip
Erdoğan, and its first public introduction is expected to be overseen by
Erdoğan himself.

EVT S1's light and durable body was produced with leaf polymer, carbon fiber
and glass fiber, and its energy consumption is quite low due to its special
design. The vehicle only consumes 10 kilowatts of energy per hour (kWh) when
cruising 100 kilometers at a constant speed of 90 Kilometers per hour. In
other words, one-kilometer costs $1.36 with EVT S1, and it can cruise the
450-kilometer distance between Ankara and Istanbul for only TL 18 ($6).

Weighing 1,050 kilograms, EVT S1 can reach a speed of 100 Kilometers per
hour in 7.5 seconds with its 141 horsepower engine, and a maximum speed of
180 kilometers per hour to protect its batteries. Its battery has a capacity
of 35 kWh and can be charged in 10 hours, or 30 minutes with the accelerated
option. This battery allows EVT S1 to travel 300 kilometers with a constant
speed of 90 kilometers per hour. It includes an automatic gearbox and 350
liters of baggage area.

Most of EVT S1's parts were produced at Hacettepe laboratories and Ankara's
İvedik and Ostim industrial zones.

After obtaining the necessary permission and documents for mass production,
1,000 units of the EVT S1 are expected to be produced in the first batch.
The team is also working on developing a luxury and family model of EVT S1,
while the second prototype is expected to be ready within a month and a
half.
[© 2015 TURKUVAZ MEDIA]



http://dutchturks.nl/de-100-turkse-elektrische-auto-evt-s1-komt-eraan/
[Dutch>translate.google>English]
The 100% electric car Turkish EVT S1 is coming
Oct 14, 2015

[image
http://dutchturks.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/EVT-S1-1.jpg
] ... 
The car is called "EVT S1" and is found to be one of the most appropriate
models to participate in mass production. The anticipated retail price of
the vehicle is € 37,000 ...

Specifications Electric car EVT S1:
Weight: 1050 kg
0-100 km / h: 7.5 seconds
PK: 141
Top speed: 180 km / h
Battery capacity: 35 kWh
Charging time: 10 hour or 30 minutes (accelerated)
Reach at 90 km / h: 300 km
Acceleration: automatic
Luggage space: 350 liters ...
[© http://dutchturks.nl]



[dated]
http://automotive-exports.com/hacettepe-ev-set-to-market/
Hacettepe EV Set To Market
[?date?]

Turkey’s Hacettepe University has developed electric vehicle which will make
its debut at the market in one or two months, Prof. Dr. Murat Tuncer, Rector
of Hacettepe University, announced

The electric vehicle which has been developed by Turkey’s Hacettepe
University is underway to appear in the roads in the upcoming months.

Prof. Dr. Murat Tuncer, Rector of Hacettepe University, briefed about
activities which have been managed at the university. Indicating the first
electric car which is being made by the Turkish engineers would appear in
the market within one or two months, Prof. Tuncer said the works were
positive for the production and sales of first 500 units.

Remarking that he would be driving the first electric car, Tuncer continued;
“The electric vehicle we are going to make will be much cheaper than the
vehicles in the market. Almost the entire components are made by Turkish
products. One each has been improved at our Teknokent. It is extremely a
harmonious car. I have also driven. In other words, we can say it is in the
mode of a race car. It speeds up excellently.” Tuncer marked the electric
vehicle would feature in various models such as sports, official position
and family type. He concluded, “I think the electric vehicle would be a
prestige project for our university and country.”
#Hacettepe EV #Hacettepe EVMarket
[© 2015 Automotive Exports]
...
https://www.rvo.nl/sites/default/files/2015/06/Electric_vehicles_report.pdf
ELECTRIC VEHICLES – MOBILITY IN TURKEY 
The Emerging Market and Opportunities – update
May 2015
...
http://www.ee.hacettepe.edu.tr/?lang=e=386
Our senior students awarded financial support by TUBITAK for their electric
vehicle charging station project
16 March 2015



[EVDL] EVLN: Solar Impuse 2> much more than a record-breaking e-flight

2015-10-18 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.euronews.com/2015/10/13/solar-impuse-2-much-more-than-a-record-breaking-flight/
Solar Impuse 2: much more than a record-breaking flight
2015/10/13  By Claire Heffron

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video  flash
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When the crew of Solar Impulse 2 were forced to suspend their effort to
complete the first solar-powered aerial circumnavigation of the globe, the
news was a blow but not a disaster for the team behind the project.

Firstly because the aircraft had already set a raft of records, and not only
for renewable flight- for example achieiving the world’s lengthiest solo
flight of 4 days, 21 hours, and 52 minutes. But secondly because the voyage
around the world was never meant to be the ultimate success of the mission.
The goal was much, much bigger.

The SI2 plane is the first solar aircraft to efficiently store energy,
allowing for an uninterrupted journey. Funded by, and headquartered in,
Monaco, it was conceived to show that environmentally-friendly technologies
don’t need to be inferior technologies.

“World records are only vital because they offer proof of ideas,” Swiss
pilot and adventurer Bertrand Piccard says. “SI2 is exceptional not because
it is solar, but because it is efficient. It is efficient at storing energy,
and at using energy.”

The work to integrate innovations from the technologies behind the
structure, power and propulsion systems into the real world are already
under way.

Expert in solar applications at Imperial College in London – Christopher
Emmott also believes the work can have an impact even faster.“I think a
project like this is really there to inspire people, and advertise the
sponsors. It’s a pretty impressive achievement and shows off how powerful
solar energy can be. And it’s also a very sexy project, which is easy to
attract media attention and is the kind of thing engineering firms like to
use to help their branding”.

One of the biggest challenges around solar energy is the batteries needed to
store power when the sun shines and deliver it whenever required. Progress
in this area can bring obvious benefits in every-day applications.

Emmott states “they’re increasingly needing better, more high power, low
weight batteries, for electric cars, bikes, buses etc, but also mobile
phones/laptops etc. But I think the biggest demand will start to come as
solar power gets cheaper and it becomes economic to put batteries in your
home when you put solar panels on your roof (something which currently isn’t
done much). This could lead to a bit of a revolution, where people stop
using energy from the national grid, but will create a huge demand for
batteries, potentially similar to those used in solar aircraft today”.

Head of the Solvay Solar Impulse Partnership, Claude Michel, thinks Solar
Impulse is first and foremost a Demonstrator – “The objective being to
demonstrate what we can do with the alternative energies today thanks to the
technologies developed on board and to transfer them on the ground in a
multitude of other applications, our houses with thermal insulation, our car
with lightweight components and an electric, hydrogen or hybrid power
chain”.

This is where he says the project gains its real value.

Michel says this plane is not designed to carry freight or passengers, it is
designed to carry a message “ if we can fly around the world with an
aircraft powered only with solar power, no one can say anymore that these
alternative energies have no value. Just do it now!”

Further, obvious, applications of the technology used to power Solar Impulse
could be in the development of drones. One day such unmanned aircraft could
save the energy needed to blast a satellite into space by providing
lower-cost services such as supplying internet access in remote locations or
for aerial imaging for maps or environmental monitoring.

Chairman of IDTechEx, Dr Peter Harrop thinks the first solar-powered
commercial aircraft could be built within five years however it will be
nominal- “there will a very small role for next ten years for solar power in
commercial flight. After that maybe a few percent of commercial planes –
carrying only a few people. I include planes charged by their solar hangar”

Harrop goes on to say solar technology can be used for other transport
including the Immortus concept car built in Australia. Several Energy
Independent commercial vehicles are already on sale such as a small tourist
bus China and others will be available soon- the British CargoTrike (an
ultra-lightweight electric-assist pedal tricycle, designed for cutting
through the traffic and delivering goods).

SI2 was certainly not built to carry passengers, on the other hand to convey
a message… to meet emissions reductions targets and fulfill the promise of
innovative solar research and technology 

[EVDL] EVLN: Loving their clean, green solar-charged Electric machines

2015-10-18 Thread brucedp5 via EV


'He DIY cut an e-mobility scooter in half, lengthened it, and now trundles
down their vineyard rows, changing a horrible task to one of the most
pleasant ones'

http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/72941304/Loving-their-clean-green-solar-machines
Loving their clean, green solar machines
ASHLEIGH MONK  October 13 2015

[images  / DEREK FLYNN
http://www.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/7/g/a/u/c/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620x349.17fdvc.png/1444711440520.jpg
Pete Wilkinson uses his Leaf electric car to drive around Marlborough

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Pete Wilkinson uses a reworked, electric mobility scooter to do bud rubbing
on his vineyard property
]

A Marlborough [NZ] couple are making the most of the region's sunshine hours
by living a solar-powered lifestyle.

Pete and Penny Wilkinson have nine solar panels set up in their garden to
power their house, cars, scooters and tools.

They say the change to solar, which they started in February, is the best
decision they ever made.

The Wilkinsons are working towards reducing the environmental footprint of
their vineyard, Mackerel Sky, and the solar panels are just the start.

"We've got 23,000 vines in our vineyard, that's 42 kilometres of rows," he
said.

"When we do bud rubbing we have to bend over 23,000 times. So I got an old
1980s mobility scooter, cut it in half, lengthened it, attached an electric
battery and now I trundle down the rows and what was once a horrible job is
now one of the most pleasant jobs."

Alongside the electric scooter, Pete had built two electric bikes and a 48
volt electric golf cart to complete jobs around the vineyard.

"We used to have quad [ice] bikes but they were noisy and smelly and needed
so much maintenance. My little [e-golf] cart makes it so much more
pleasant."

The couple also had a range of electric tools including a chainsaw, hedge
trimmer, log splitter and a drill.

"Anyone who tells me that using solar power and electric-powered vehicles
and tools isn't practical or isn't affordable or isn't doable, I say there's
more intelligent ways to do things," he said.

After work around the vineyard was done, the couple took their fully-charged
Nissan Leaf electric car for a spin.

"To drive all around Marlborough for free is amazing," he said.

"It only takes a few hours to charge normally. You can do a quick charge and
it only takes half an hour.

"After 40 years of commercial driving I was over it, but the Leaf makes
driving much more pleasant."

Penny said they waved at petrol stations as they drove past.

Each electric vehicle and tool was charged using solar power from the
panels, Pete said.

The couple were not completely off the grid and kept an electricity box as a
back up, but they had stored solar power in the event of a power cut.

"Even if the grid goes down, we have a basic level of power with LED light
and we can run our washing machine and fridge and things like that."

Pete set up the solar panels in the back yard himself and he and Penny tried
to only use solar power whenever possible.

"For me, to reduce the worst aspects of our very privileged western-style,
unsustainable lifestyle here in New Zealand, fossil fuel is one of the
biggies.

"If we can get rid of a chunk of fossil fuel out of our personal life, I'm
much happier, morally and ethically.

"Plus, we get the added bonus of a reduced power bill."

The motivation behind wanting to create a fully sustainable solar lifestyle
was the looming threat of climate change, Pete said.

"The trouble with New Zealand is that we live close to the biggest
air-conditioner on the planet, Antarctica.

"We're surrounded by the coolest ocean on the planet. We're cooled by the
prevailing southern stream, so the influx here is relatively slow and people
won't be confronted with the issue unless something hits close to home.

"I want to be able to look my grandchildren in the eye and say, 'I did my
best'."

The development of environmentally-friendly alternatives was slow in New
Zealand, so the only way to kick-start change was to raise awareness, Penny
said.

"In Marlborough, the council needs to be aware of what's going on," she
said.

"They need to set an example. Even putting a solar panel in town with a
power point attached would be something."

Wine Marlborough general manager Marcus Pickens said a handful of vineyards
in the region were beginning to use more eco-friendly methods of operating.

"The pricings are definitely coming down," he said.

"We are drenched in sunlight here, and it makes a difference for climate
change."

Pete and Penny hosted a gathering at their house on Sunday for the Climate
Karanga Marlborough group to discuss awareness.

Climate Karanga Marlborough was a group of about 20 people dedicating their
time to raising awareness of climate change in the district.

Green Party MP Steffan Browning attended the gathering 

Re: [EVDL] OT: Toyota aims to nearly eliminate gasoline cars by 2050

2015-10-18 Thread Michael Ross via EV
H2 as an energy storage medium and source of power for EVs to has
theoretical merit if we ever have truly significant renewable power
generation in the US.

In this scenario the inefficiencies are of less consequence because on a
very large scale storing H2 is quite cheap particularly in comparison to
batteries. You just need big tanks.  Comparable battery storage is hard to
even conceive.

Batteries look OK in EVs assuming we can really make enough of them.
There is a choice to be made between EVs getting charged from a grid or
mounting a tank and fuel cell or H2 ICE.  But smoothing out renewable power
into a 24 hour cycle is tricky. We don't have a good, really large scale
way to do this, and we need one.

Once you have that renewable capacity the economics of H2 looks a lot
better.  Assuming we need to get out of the fossil fuel business and I
accept that, then we need a really simple storage means for generated
energy, H2 makes sense.  Batteries, pumped hydro, and so on don't scale
well to this level.

Returning  to Toyota and their choice to stick with ICE and fuel cells -
for a really long game they may be onto something. I have no idea I'd this
is their thinking.
On Oct 16, 2015 3:34 PM, "Ben Goren via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Roland <e...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Install the hydrogen tank in a ICE vehicle using standard propane
> equipment that I was already running the engine on.
>
> We're obviously veering sharply offtopic, now. Some years back I looked
> into doing pretty much that -- running H2 in, in this case, an aircooled
> '68 VW Westfalia Campmobile in the stock engine with a modified fuel intake
> system, similar to a propane conversion. I seem to remember that there was
> somebody in Tucson that had done it with a pickup truck of some sort. I'd
> use electricity from rooftop solar panels to analyze water and collect the
> hydrogen.
>
> The numbers just didn't add up. The volumetric density of H2 at sane
> pressures is abysmal and the embrittlement of the engine from constant
> exposure to H2 was going to shorten the lift of the engine enough that it
> didn't make environmental sense. And all that's before getting into the
> question of putting in an hydrogen storage tank plus the collection and
> compression facilities and how to get from storage tank to the vehicle...in
> the middle of suburbia...
>
> ...compare that with even a lead acid EV conversion and the difference is
> quite stark. Comparable driving range, potentially much superior driving
> performance, much better inherent safety, and _far_ easier recharging. And
> the entire system's energy efficiency is so much better with electric
> rather than all the waste of analyzing the hydrogen and compressing it and
> so on.
>
> That was the final piece of the puzzle. Both methods went from solar
> panels on the house's roof to propelling the car. One method was very
> direct and simple and efficient; the other was an insane and wasteful Rube
> Goldberg kludge.
>
> The fool cell is only marginally better than running H2 in an internal
> combustion engine (which most any engine built for gasoline will happily do
> with no more than modifications to the intake and operating parameters like
> timing). Even still, lead acid would have a fool cell beat...and, with
> modern battery chemistries? There's no comparison.
>
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Re: [EVDL] Emotorworks (Juicebox) lack of customer support

2015-10-18 Thread Tom Jones via EV
I received my Juicebox about eighteen months ago. Mine has the case that 
looks like a very big battery. I did make some small hardware and 
firmware changes but only because that's what I like to do. And Valery 
Miftakhov was very responsive and helpful when I had questions. In fact, 
I use Valery's code for the display in other projects.


My Juicebox has been working very well since I received it.

Tom Jones

On 10/17/2015 7:41 PM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote:

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ken Olum via EV  wrote:


At the end of June I bought the JuiceBox 40 Pro EVSE from Emotorwerks.
I paid $600, and I think that's enough that I'm entitled to a little
customer support.  But I've 4 sent requests to their support address and
never received a satisfactory answer.  In some cases I got a reply, but
the reply was "so-and-so is the expert on this and will get back to you
and answer your question" and then I never heard from so-and-so.


​Thinking more about this, there are other products that have no official
tech support.  They rely ​on an active and enthusiastic online community,
sometimes backed up by a company representative or two.  I personally have
had fair-to-good results from this kind of arrangement (free antivirus
programs, etc.).  I see there is a Juicebox support thread on
DIYElectricCar.

​Has anyone had good or inadequate results with Juicebox support using this
approach?

Chris​
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Re: [EVDL] OT: Toyota aims to nearly eliminate gasoline cars by 2050

2015-10-18 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
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[EVDL] Hydrogen will have a role. (just not in cars)...

2015-10-18 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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[EVDL] World Solar Challenge starts today.

2015-10-18 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Expect some amazing results from the Cruiser Class.  
http://www.worldsolarchallenge.org/  Lawrence Rhodes
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Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen will have a role. (just not in cars)...

2015-10-18 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 18, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> Agree 100% that dumping excess solar/wind energy into H2 for storage is an
> absolute good idea that will work.

The gaseous form is one of the worst of the options for hydrogen storage.

In a cruel twist of irony...gasoline and diesel and similar short-chain 
hydrocarbons are about as good as it gets.

We're always going to need significant quantities of hydrocarbons -- for fuels, 
for feedstocks for plastics and fertilizers, for lubricants, and more.

And making syngas, a good base from which the rest can be refined or 
synthesized, from nothing but atmospheric CO2 and water and energy input, is 
ancient technology. The only problem is that it's energy-intensive -- which is 
to be expected, since it takes at least as much energy as is released from 
burning hydrocarbons, plus all the various inefficiencies.

The ideal way forward is with grid-tie rooftop solar that primarily directly 
powers stuff right there, including BEVs, and the excess going to the grid 
first for others that can use it that moment, and any remaining surplus (which, 
of course, at time will be significant) going to manufacturing hydrocarbons 
from atmospheric CO2. Local battery storage will likely be the economic 
preference for overnight needs, with existing natural gas (etc.) power plants 
burning the fuels made during the day making up the difference. Most of the 
fuels made during the day, though, would go to plastics and fertilizer and jet 
aircraft fuel and the like.

The way we're _actually_ headed, though, thanks to the idiocies of the electric 
utilities, is rooftop solar without the grid. That gets us oversized local 
systems with surpluses going to waste.

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