Re: [EVDL] Leaf donor car? Re: Books on converting a car to ev?

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>>
>>
>> Your assumptions are based on your perspective of value. Obviously
>> nothing wrong with that and it's probably quite similar  to others on this
>> list. No offense, but no one on this list would be a target customer of
>> mine exactly for that reason. My target customers have a COMPLETELY
>> different perspective of value.Â
>> Â
>> ICE cars really don't have to be aerodynamic to sell well. Poor aero
>> doesn't impact the purchase price, or the weight of the vehicle, and
>> doesn't alter the performance appreciably. All that really changes is the
>> EPA estimated mileage. The customer doesn't care mostly because he doesn't
>> think that far ahead.Â
>>
>>
>> Same with my target audience. All they care about is that the car is an
>> "EV" and that they can  CLAIM to care about the environment.Â
>> Â
>> Thus, if you want a "classic" or "sporty" or some other styling, you
>> can't sacrifice aerodynamic drag to achieve it. You must carefully style
>> the car to achieve the desired look, while being very very aerodynamic. Not
>> easy to do, but you must to build an EV that will actually sell. To sell,
>> it must have range and performance and be competitive in cost. That, in
>> turn, requires that it have a low Cd. Thus, a Mustang or a Corvette won't
>> work. Awful Cd.
>>
>>
>> Again, different value system. My range will come from better battery
>> technology. It's not there yet (nowhere close) but I want to have my cars
>> built and tested before that happens. I cannot wait for that to happen
>> before I pull the trigger on this project.Â
>> Â
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Re: [EVDL] OT fcv deliveries halted> 2few pumps, need appt4 slow-1/2-fill(150mi), +more

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On 01/17/2016 12:40 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:

Within a couple of years in California, renewable hydrogen will make up over 
40% of the pumped H2 for autos, exceeding the renewable content of the grid. 
That percentage will continue to increase.
That's interesting.  Can you cite a source?  Will that be coming from 
cracking water with solar/wind electricity?  I thought NG was still the 
cheapest source of H2 by far.  Do you have comparative cost estimates?


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Re: [EVDL] OT fcv deliveries halted> 2few pumps, need appt4 slow-1/2-fill(150mi), +more

[Mark Abramowitz via EV]

The question I was addressing was specifically hydrogen from natural gas, but 
H2 certainly can also be generated using RECs (the Cal State L.A. fueling 
station does that), or from solar, or wind.

Within a couple of years in California, renewable hydrogen will make up over 
40% of the pumped H2 for autos, exceeding the renewable content of the grid. 
That percentage will continue to increase.

All this means is that there will be lots of opportunities to replace gasoline 
and diesel with cleaner battery or hydrogen storage, and more options no matter 
what your needs are.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Peri Hartman via EV  wrote:
> 
> I'll add: while it may be true that hydrogen for fuel cells comes from 
> methane generated by anaerobic fermentation, that is irrelevant.
> 
> Why? Because, even with the enormous mountains of waste we produce, that can 
> only produce a small percentage of the hydrogen needed to power all the 
> vehicles in the country.  It may look good on a small scale but can't be done 
> on a large scale.
> 
> Incidentally, that's a different case from buying RECs or using solar panels 
> to generate electricity to charge your EV.  That model is scalable.
> 
> Peri
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> Subject: Re: [EVDL] OT fcv deliveries halted> 2few pumps, need appt4 
> slow-1/2-fill(150mi), +more
> 
>>> From: Mark Abramowitz via EV 
>>> 
 On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:29 AM, dovepa via EV  wrote:
 
 Currently most hydrogen is produced by natural gas reforming which is not 
 green at all.
>>> 
>>> But for auto fueling, that which is reformed is frequently made from 
>>> renewable methane, so *is* green.
>> 
>> But almost all methane comes form natgas, no? I realize it is possible to 
>> make it from aneorbic fermentation, but almost none of that is in the 
>> market, being made by micro producers for their own use. Methane is a 
>> “stranded market,” not suitable for shipping long distances, so “renewable 
>> methane” tends to be consumed right next to dairy farms, feedlots, etc. 
>> where it is produced.
>> 
>>> Disclosure: one of my clients is in the hydrogen industry.
>> 
>> Disclosure: I’ve studied this in some detail, and have made bio-methane for 
>> cooking, which is most useful at low pressure ― it takes as much energy as 
>> is in the methane to compress it to the ~500 torr necessary to have any 
>> driving range.
>> 
>> If you have some references, I’d love to see them!
>> 
>> Jan
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Re: [EVDL] 66yrold e-scooterist death> doored, run-over & truck-dragged Ottawa.ca

[Michael Ross via EV]

t;>> bike and into the path of an oncoming vehicle.
>>>
>>> A new law that came into effect in September increased the fine for a
>>> driver
>>> found guilty of dooring a cyclist to $365 and three demerit points.
>>>
>>> No charges have been laid in Monday’s collision, although police were
>>> continuing to investigate ...
>>> [© 2016 Postmedia Network]
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>>> (Cumberland St. runs through the Byward Market section of Ottawa)
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Re: [EVDL] Question: L5-30P vs L6-30P

[Mike Nickerson via EV]

I think they are slightly different.  Does this link help?

http://www.stayonline.com/reference-nema-locking.aspx

The size of the curved connectors look slightly different to me in the pictures.

Mike


On January 17, 2016 9:16:39 AM MST, Seth Rothenberg via EV  
wrote:
>I am assembling my OpenEVSE
>and contemplating the extension cords
>and adaptors I will need
>
>When I decommissioned some old Sun servers
>a few years ago, I saved the power cords.
>
>30' with a 30 am 250 V locking plug on the end,
>To my eye, it seems to be identical
>to the 30a 125 V locking plug on the desk-side UPS
>that I got (from the same source :-)
>But they are labeled with different voltages.
>
>Are these the same?   I could get a socket for
>one or both and see, but a link to more info
>would be great.
>
>Thanks
>Seth
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[EVDL] Which connector for a 5.7kW EVSE: Question: L5-30P vs L6-30P

[brucedp5 via EV]

[ref
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Question-L5-30P-vs-L6-30P-tp4679861.html
}

Assumptions:
-You are building the basic 30A kit
http://store.openevse.com/products/openevse-30a-basic-charge-station-combo

-You plan to use the EVSE mostly in L2 5.7kW mode (drawing 24A off a 240VAC
30A circuit), but also want to be able to use the L1 ability (rare).

-You will be using only one 30' length of 10-3 cable repurposed from a
server which will have only one set of power connectors.

I know the type of power cords you are repurposing/using as I have
build/installed/updated many a computer rack in my former 25 year hp CE
career. Many a 10-3 cable I have chased down, pulled and run under many
customers' (and hp's) raised computer room floors. There were so many
changes constantly happening at sites, that perfectly usable cords were
chucked into the huge truck-pulled copper recycling bins (perhaps they were
too short, had the wrong connectors, etc.).

Check the cord's health but taking the existing power connector off. If the
copper strands are dark, the wire has been cooked (over heated = tarnished)
and those wires are not to be used. Usually, I could cut the cable back a
few feet to find health wire again. But if not, that cable is only good for
the recyclers (do not try to still use it, it will cook your connectors).

Having charged at many locations, and in many ways (I had 6 chargers
on-board my former S-10 Blazer EV), I have used-up/cooked my fair share of
cords, hence have learned what lasts longest/the only have to 'make it once'
methods.

>From my own experience of charging for hours using a long 10-3 cord like
this (at 30A powering a pfc-30 charger), it is at the connectors that the
heat will build up. The cord spreads the heat out over its length, but at
the metal to metal connection of the wire of the cord to the power connector
is where the resistance is most. So, ensure you put enough of the wire's
copper around/at the power connector's fastening point.


To answer your question, the difference between a L5-30 and a L6-30 is the
arrangement of the prongs. The design is human-engineered to keep laymen
from connecting power illegally (smoke).

The difference in any 30A rated power connector is not the amount of metal
to metal contact. There is more metal on a 30A connector than a L1 5-15 or
5-20 connector. Thus a those lower L1 rated connectors would heat up and and
cook/burn if used at higher currents than they are rated at.

I carried a small gym bag full of connectors and 1' 10-3 cords in my back
seat so as to have the makings to build up what ever adaptor I needed [

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Foldable-Travel-Luggage-Duffle-Storage-Bag-Sport-Gym-Carry-Suitcase-50L-Black-/281905652195?hash=item41a2e2e1e3:g:4swAAOSwo0JWQVp5

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0_BIN=1&_udhi=13&_sop=16&_nkw=Duffle%20Gym%20Bag=nc_FS=1&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
]. Today, we do not need to do this. But in your case, you will need to make
one adaptor (cheater-cord) from a 5-15 plug to a L6-30 receptacle. That
adaptor will allow your 30A EVSE kit to be powered from a 120VAC 15/20A
circuit for L1 charging.

Here is an example
http://customavrack.com/images/thumbs/0003575_328.jpeg
 of a 5-15 to L5-30 adapter. You would have to use a L6-30 receptacle
instead of the L5-30.

Below I give you three choices with links to an image, and connector pricing
examples. The prices of all three are about the same (~$20), and you will
notice I specified Leviton brand. There are cheaper connectors, but I have
found Leviton to be the best bang for the buck (cheap connectors break when
dropped, overheat/cook, etc.):


http://www.cables.com/Images/l530pl530r.jpg
L5-30
https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs=Leviton+L5-30=utf-8=utf-8#q=Leviton+L5-30=fs=shop

http://www.lockingpowercords.com/images/thumbs/382_300.jpeg
L6-30
https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs=Leviton+L6-30=utf-8=utf-8#channel=fs=vw:l,mr:1,price:1,ppr_max:25=shop=Leviton+L6-30

http://www.lockingpowercords.com/images/image/L14-30%20extension%20cords.jpg
L14-30
https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs=Leviton+L14-30=utf-8=utf-8#channel=fs=vw:l,mr:1,price:1,ppr_max:25=shop=Leviton+L14-30


Besure to study the NEMA Wiring Diagrams, see
http://www.automationdirect.com/static/specs/wiringdevicesnemawiring.pdf



I recommend you go with the L6-30 connector. Mainly as you do not have as
many earthquakes as we do in CA, see
http://njmonthly.com/articles/jersey-living/living-on-the-fault-line/
Jersey Living on the Fault Line

In an earthquake, you want the cord to self-disconnect when the EV moves.
But since you do not have that issue, same as in a computer/server room, you
want a twist lock for laymen to use as it makes better metal to metal
connection if you know to twist it tight.

Also, (Gawd forbid) you have a fire, but when the FD look at your connectors
and see you were powering an EVSE off a 240VAC 30A circuit it helps to use

Re: [EVDL] Leaf donor car? Re: Books on converting a car to ev?

[Jack Wendel via EV]

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<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrepreneur> is a certain amount of
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[EVDL] 66yrold e-scooterist death> doored, run-over & truck-dragged Ottawa.ca

[brucedp5 via EV]

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/scooter-rider-dies-after-being-doored-by-car-in-byward-market
Scooter rider dies after being 'doored' by car in ByWard Market
January 13, 2016  Andrew Seymour

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A man has died after he was hit while riding an E-Bike northbound on
Cumberland St. In the Byward Market Monday, Jan. 11, 2016
]

The death of a 66-year-old man on an electric scooter who was run over by a
truck after he was “doored” in the ByWard Market on Monday is a tragic
reminder about the dangers cyclists and those on e-bikes face, says an
Ottawa safe cycling group.

Ottawa police said the man was riding his scooter northbound on Cumberland
Street at about 4:30 p.m. when the driver of a Toyota that had just parked
along the curb swung open his door. The man on the e-bike collided with the
door and was then thrown off his scooter, where he landed in front of a
northbound pickup truck.

Witnesses reported that the man was dragged several metres before the truck
stopped. Firefighters had to lift the truck to free the man, who was
pronounced dead at the scene. A handicap sticker was visible on the back of
the scooter.

Police did not release the man’s name Tuesday.

“It is very important for drivers to be aware when they are opening their
doors to be looking for cyclists,” said Heather Shearer, a board member with
Citizens for Safe Cycling. “Also for drivers overtaking a cyclist — if the
space is tight, try to imagine this is a possibility and try to stay back
until it is safe to overtake.”

Shearer said drivers need to remember there could be someone on a bike next
to their car, even in winter. Winter cycling has become increasingly popular
and cyclists are on the road year round, she said.

Shearer said cyclists should give themselves at least a metre from parked
cars to help reduce the risk of a collision.

“For cyclists it can be intimidating to stay away from the doors and take
the space that you need, but your safety is more important than anyone’s
convenience,” said Shearer.

The e-bike rider is the second person to die after being “doored” in Ottawa
in the past five years.

Cyclist Danielle Nacu was killed in October 2011 after she was hit with a
car door while cycling on Queen Street. The 33-year-old was knocked off her
bike and into the path of an oncoming vehicle.

A new law that came into effect in September increased the fine for a driver
found guilty of dooring a cyclist to $365 and three demerit points.

No charges have been laid in Monday’s collision, although police were
continuing to investigate ...
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[EVDL] EVLN: Smart e-rickshaws> e-solution to Delhi.in commuting problems

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http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/logistics/an-esolution-to-delhis-commuting-woes/article8098849.ece
An e-solution to Delhi’s commuting woes
January 12, 2016  Chitra Narayanan

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Smart e-rickshaws equipped with digital gadgets including GPRS and CCTV in
New Delhi KAMAL NARANG
]

Smart-E offers an eco-friendly feeder service to Metro stations

New Delhi, January 12:  As the Delhi government grapples with ways and means
to curb pollution in the Capital, entrepreneurs are entering the fray,
launching eco-friendly commuting options.

Smart-E or Smart Electric Transport System, an e-rickshaw solution that
hopes to solve the last-mile connectivity issues of Delhi Metro users, is
one.

Piloted in West Delhi’s Paschim Vihar neighbourhood, the Smart-E vehicles,
which can seat four people, run on a ride-share model and provide feeder
services to passengers travelling to and from Metro stations.

When Delhi Metro did a survey to find out how people arrived at stations, it
found that barely 1.5 per cent of its 3 million daily users came on vehicles
and parked them at stations. “While the metro covers a vast distance, first-
and last-mile connectivity to the stations remains a problem,” says Manjul
Kumar, General Manager, Operations, Smart-E. That prompted a bunch of MNC
executives to band together and launch Smart-E. While Delhi has had
e-rickshaws, these have mostly operated in an unorganised way. In fact, many
went off the road after a High Court order though some are back after the
Motor Vehicles Act was amended to let them ply with requisite licences.

Smart-E claims to be different as it is the first organised model for
e-rickshaws, begun after consultations with Delhi Metro officials and the
Delhi Traffic Police.

These electric vehicles, custom-manufactured in Sonepat, are equipped with
GPS and even CCTVs, addressing the issue of women’s safety.
Women drivers

In fact, at Paschim Vihar most of the e-rickshaws have women drivers, drawn
from neighbouring villages.

Shahnaz, a mother of six living in Mongolpuri, now earns anywhere between
₹300-₹500 plying the e-rick, which she bought with a loan from Bharatiya
Mahila Bank, facilitated by the company. She says that even after giving the
operators the commission, she takes home more than she earned in her earlier
factory job.

But as the service scales up, the promoters say it’s not sustainable to run
with women drivers alone. Although the women are enthusiastic and eager to
be trained, there are challenges such as long hours on the road.

Smart-E will expand to Gurgaon next with 50 e-rickshaws. In Delhi, Malviya
Nagar has been identified as the next locality where it will ply. By
September, the company hopes to have a thousand e-vehicles on the road.

The Smart-E model is a hybrid between Meru and Uber. The company does not
own the asset. Instead loans are arranged for the e-rickshaw drivers to buy
the vehicle and an operating commission charged that takes care of
infrastructure issues such as dedicated parking and charging stations for
the vehicles, as well as help with licensing of vehicles.

“Soon, there will be a fully functional app that will connect a driver with
a customer,” says Kumar. This will allow a passenger to book a Smart-E to
her home just before she gets off at the station. The fare is [INR]₹10 for a
shared ride.

If the model succeeds, the promoters hope to scale up by taking it to the
six States where metro rail projects are coming up.
[© thehindubusinessline.com]



http://www.hindustantimes.com/bhopal/jabalpur-streets-to-get-green-e-rickshaws-soon/story-UZ8vVIilCV3ZvFtrAfBNeP.html
Jabalpur streets to get ‘green’ e-rickshaws soon
Jan 06, 2016  Neelesh Chaudhari

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The residents of Jabalpur will soon have a green commuting option, with the
civic authorities set to introduce electric rickshaws to reduce vehicular
pollution and address the shortage of public transport in the city.

The Jabalpur City Transport Services Limited (JCTSL) — a special purpose
vehicle formed jointly by the municipal corporation and the development
authority to deal with public transport issues — is also facilitating loans
to the poor and the unemployed to purchase e-rickshaws under the National
Urban Livelihoods Mission.
JCTSL officials say e-rickshaws can be a better alternative to the vehicles
burning fossil fuels. “This will not only cut down pollution but also help
many unemployed people earn a livelihood,” an official said.

JCTSL chief executive officer Sachin Vishwakarma told HT, “The applicants
falling in the below poverty line category will get easy finance for the
e-rickshaw under the government scheme. For the above poverty line
applicants, we are in process of pursuing the bank for finance.”

More than 100 people have 

[EVDL] EVLN: JUMPSmartMaui project> EV solutions, Smart Grid, & renewables

[brucedp5 via EV]

http://mauinow.com/2016/01/12/jumpsmartmaui-seeks-ev-owners-for-phase-2/
JUMPSmartMaui Seeks EV Owners for Phase 2
January 12, 2016

[image  
http://mauinow.com/files/2016/01/EV-PCS-photo-768x1024.jpg
The EV-PCS is an EV charger that can charge a vehicle twice as fast as the
LEAF’s Level-1 charger. EV-PCS photo.
]

JUMPSmartMaui is seeking homeowner and business volunteers for SmartPower,
its next phase.

Utilizing the new technology of the EV-Power Conditioning System,
SmartPower’s volunteers will have the opportunity to charge their Nissan
LEAFs and discharge the power to their homes and businesses.

Up to 300 volunteers are needed to help create this “virtual power plant.”

Among the benefits qualified volunteers will receive:

 - an EV-PCS installed at no charge (determined by site visit)
 - charging/discharging capability from EV-PCS
 - use of JUMPSmartMaui’s DC Fast Charging stations through March 2016 at no
charge

To learn more about the homeowner and business eligibility and benefits,
attend one of the upcoming informational meetings that will be held at the
JUMPSmartMaui Innovation Center in Queen Ka‘ahumanu Center in Kahului.
Meeting dates are subject to change with notice.

Friday, Jan. 15, 12:15–1:30 p.m.
Wednesdday, Jan. 20, 5:30–7 p.m.
Monday, Jan. 25, 5:30–7 p.m.

Advanced reservations are requested. RSVP to Lory Basa at Maui Economic
Development Board at (808) 270-6802 or email i...@jumpsmartmaui.com..

During Phase 1, the JUMPSmartMaui project recruited more than 200 EV and 30
residential volunteers. The project offered participants access to EV Fast
Charging stations at sites across the island, and free installation of Level
II chargers and smart energy monitoring devices at their homes.

The project met its initial recruitment goals and is continuing to gather
valuable data from its volunteers to evaluate and balance electric grid
supply and demand.

JUMPSmartMaui’s Phase 2 advances the next phase of energy management for
homes and businesses.

“Our hope is that these types of programs will generate more community
interest in clean energy and promote the adoption of EVs on Maui,” said
Jeanne Skog, president of Maui Economic Development Board, one of key
organizations partnering on the JUMPSmartMaui project. “Through our
collective efforts we can continue to reduce the use of fossil fuels on Maui
and contribute to our state’s renewable energy goal at 100 percent by 2045.”

JUMPSmartMaui is a collaborative demonstration project between Japan,
Hawai‘i and Maui that incorporates Smart Grid, renewable energy and all-EV
solutions to achieve a cleaner future for Maui.
[© 2016 Maui Now]
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[EVDL] EVLN: MIT & Taiwan Collaborate on Driverless nEV (v)

[brucedp5 via EV]

http://en.ctimes.com.tw/DispNews.asp?O=HK01B9ZQZXWSAA00N4
MIT and Taiwan Collaborate on Driverless Electric Vehicle
Jan 11,2016  Korbin Lan

[image  
http://www.ctimes.com.tw/news/2016/01/11/1647041780.jpg
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TAIPEI, Taiwan － Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in the United
States and Institute for Information Industry (III) in Taiwan yesterday
jointly demonstrated Taiwan’s first type of lightweight driverless smart
car, the Persuasive Electric Vehicle (PEV), which will undergo test trials
at the end of this year at earliest.

This type of PEV is shaped like a three-wheeled automatic car, and it has
radar detection and camera and GPS orientation. It is capable of carrying
passengers or cargo, and by just using the corresponding App, “Spike,” the
car can be summoned to designated locations.

The car is equipped with an electronic power assistance device and pedal,
which enables users to choose to drive autonomously or to enjoy being taken
for a car ride. At the same time, the internal GPS position information and
detection devices can calculate the shortest routes and slow down the car or
change routes in response to road conditions.

MIT has emphasized that PEV features lightweight bicycle concepts, and other
than the care frame, which is from the United States, ninety percent of the
vehicle’s body was made in collaboration with local Taiwanese groups. Each
vehicle will cost approximately $200,000.

III stated that PEV is a big step forward for Taiwan in Internet of Vehicles
development, and through the use of sensor technology and cloud data
processing, when the car is in the process of moving it will be able to have
precise control over nearby cars and information about road conditions while
also providing customized precision services.

MIT Media Lab research assistant Lin Jia-liang stated that corresponding
Apps will be able to be used to calculate the shortest routes and to summon
the vehicles to set locations while also reducing the number of detours
during driving. In addition, the cars will be able to collect environment
data and user information and upload it to the cloud.

PEVs can replace fossil fuel power with electrical power. Lin Jia-liang said
that compared to other driverless cars, the PEV simulations in New York for
two hours of delivering cargo reduced driving distance by forty percent and
carbon emissions by sixty percent.

Lin Jia-liang stated that at the end of this year MIT Media Lab will
manufacture fifty vehicles and conduct field testing in the following five
cities: Taipei, Singapore, Hamburg, Germany, and the United States in order
to assist big data cloud collection about conditions in each city.
(TR/ Phil Sweeney)
[© ctimes.com.tw]



http://www.taiwantoday.tw/ct.asp?xItem=241069=2194=9
Taiwan-US team develops driverless electric vehicle
January 11, 2016  

[image  
http://www.taiwantoday.tw/public/data/61581371.jpg
A driverless electric vehicle jointly developed by III and MIT Media Lab is
put through its paces Jan. 10 in Taipei City. (CNA)
]

A driverless electric vehicle developed by researchers from Taiwan and the
U.S. was launched Jan. 10 in Taipei City, a significant step forward in
establishing Taiwan as a leading global provider of smart transportation
solutions.

Jointly created by state-run Institute for Information Industry under the
ROC Ministry of Economic Affairs and Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Media Lab, the Persuasive Electric Vehicle is the first high-profile
innovation project of Taiwan Air Force innovation base.

During the launch ceremony, Premier Mao Chi-kuo said the PEV will play a key
role in building smart cities in Taiwan. “The project is opening the door
for Taiwan industries to prepare for opportunities stemming from the
Internet of Vehicles.

“This collaboration underscores the government’s commitment to transforming
Taiwan into a top-flight business incubation center where the world’s most
brilliant entrepreneurs can turn innovative ideas into reality.”

Also attending the event, Kent Larson, director of MIT Changing Places
research group, praised Taiwan for its strong design and manufacturing
capabilities, and tipped TAF to assume the mantle of a living laboratory for
cutting-edge concepts.

At 2 meters in length, 80 centimeters in width and 1.8 meters in height, the
40-kilogram, lithium battery-powered tricycle boasts a top seed of 20 kph
and single-charge range of 40 kilometers.

According to project leader Michael Lin, a doctorate student at MIT from
Taiwan, the PEV is different from most driverless electric vehicles in that
its design is based on a bicycle so as to capitalize on the country’s
related industry design and manufacturing prowess.

“The vehicle collects environmental information for cloud data analysis and
providing more customized and efficient services,” Lin said. “Given its
compact size, the PEV can use bicycle lanes, making it an ideal
transportation option in big cities.”

Lin said Media Lab will 

Re: [EVDL] 66yrold e-scooterist death> doored, run-over & truck-dragged Ottawa.ca

[Peri Hartman via EV]

Never, ever, bicycle in the "suicide lane" if you're going over about 
8-10 mph.  Tragic.

Peri

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Subject: [EVDL] 66yrold e-scooterist death> doored, run-over & 
truck-dragged Ottawa.ca





http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/scooter-rider-dies-after-being-doored-by-car-in-byward-market
Scooter rider dies after being 'doored' by car in ByWard Market
January 13, 2016  Andrew Seymour

[image
http://wpmedia.ottawacitizen.com/2016/01/man-dies-riding-e-bike.jpeg
A man has died after he was hit while riding an E-Bike northbound on
Cumberland St. In the Byward Market Monday, Jan. 11, 2016
]

The death of a 66-year-old man on an electric scooter who was run over 
by a

truck after he was “doored” in the ByWard Market on Monday is a tragic
reminder about the dangers cyclists and those on e-bikes face, says an
Ottawa safe cycling group.

Ottawa police said the man was riding his scooter northbound on 
Cumberland
Street at about 4:30 p.m. when the driver of a Toyota that had just 
parked
along the curb swung open his door. The man on the e-bike collided with 
the

door and was then thrown off his scooter, where he landed in front of a
northbound pickup truck.

Witnesses reported that the man was dragged several metres before the 
truck

stopped. Firefighters had to lift the truck to free the man, who was
pronounced dead at the scene. A handicap sticker was visible on the 
back of

the scooter.

Police did not release the man’s name Tuesday.

“It is very important for drivers to be aware when they are opening 
their
doors to be looking for cyclists,” said Heather Shearer, a board member 
with
Citizens for Safe Cycling. “Also for drivers overtaking a cyclist — if 
the
space is tight, try to imagine this is a possibility and try to stay 
back

until it is safe to overtake.”

Shearer said drivers need to remember there could be someone on a bike 
next
to their car, even in winter. Winter cycling has become increasingly 
popular

and cyclists are on the road year round, she said.

Shearer said cyclists should give themselves at least a metre from 
parked

cars to help reduce the risk of a collision.

“For cyclists it can be intimidating to stay away from the doors and 
take
the space that you need, but your safety is more important than 
anyone’s

convenience,” said Shearer.

The e-bike rider is the second person to die after being “doored” in 
Ottawa

in the past five years.

Cyclist Danielle Nacu was killed in October 2011 after she was hit with 
a
car door while cycling on Queen Street. The 33-year-old was knocked off 
her

bike and into the path of an oncoming vehicle.

A new law that came into effect in September increased the fine for a 
driver

found guilty of dooring a cyclist to $365 and three demerit points.

No charges have been laid in Monday’s collision, although police were
continuing to investigate ...
[© 2016 Postmedia Network]
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[EVDL] Question: L5-30P vs L6-30P

[Seth Rothenberg via EV]

I am assembling my OpenEVSE
and contemplating the extension cords
and adaptors I will need

When I decommissioned some old Sun servers
a few years ago, I saved the power cords.

30' with a 30 am 250 V locking plug on the end,
To my eye, it seems to be identical
to the 30a 125 V locking plug on the desk-side UPS
that I got (from the same source :-)
But they are labeled with different voltages.

Are these the same?   I could get a socket for
one or both and see, but a link to more info
would be great.

Thanks
Seth
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Re: [EVDL] 66yrold e-scooterist death> doored, run-over & truck-dragged Ottawa.ca

[Paul Wujek via EV]

This happened in Ontario, Canada where there is a law in place that cars 
have to be at least a metre from bicyclists.


I also take this to mean that bicycles should always remain at least a 
metre from cars, parked or not.


If staying a metre away from cars puts my bicycle in the traffic lane 
that's fine with me and following cars will either have to give me room 
or stay behind and wait for me to pass parked vehicles. I've been doored 
before.


On 2016-01-17 10:31 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Never, ever, bicycle in the "suicide lane" if you're going over about 
8-10 mph.  Tragic.

Peri

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Subject: [EVDL] 66yrold e-scooterist death> doored, run-over & 
truck-dragged Ottawa.ca





http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/scooter-rider-dies-after-being-doored-by-car-in-byward-market 


Scooter rider dies after being 'doored' by car in ByWard Market
January 13, 2016  Andrew Seymour

[image
http://wpmedia.ottawacitizen.com/2016/01/man-dies-riding-e-bike.jpeg
A man has died after he was hit while riding an E-Bike northbound on
Cumberland St. In the Byward Market Monday, Jan. 11, 2016
]

The death of a 66-year-old man on an electric scooter who was run 
over by a

truck after he was “doored” in the ByWard Market on Monday is a tragic
reminder about the dangers cyclists and those on e-bikes face, says an
Ottawa safe cycling group.

Ottawa police said the man was riding his scooter northbound on 
Cumberland
Street at about 4:30 p.m. when the driver of a Toyota that had just 
parked
along the curb swung open his door. The man on the e-bike collided 
with the

door and was then thrown off his scooter, where he landed in front of a
northbound pickup truck.

Witnesses reported that the man was dragged several metres before the 
truck

stopped. Firefighters had to lift the truck to free the man, who was
pronounced dead at the scene. A handicap sticker was visible on the 
back of

the scooter.

Police did not release the man’s name Tuesday.

“It is very important for drivers to be aware when they are opening 
their
doors to be looking for cyclists,” said Heather Shearer, a board 
member with
Citizens for Safe Cycling. “Also for drivers overtaking a cyclist — 
if the
space is tight, try to imagine this is a possibility and try to stay 
back

until it is safe to overtake.”

Shearer said drivers need to remember there could be someone on a 
bike next
to their car, even in winter. Winter cycling has become increasingly 
popular

and cyclists are on the road year round, she said.

Shearer said cyclists should give themselves at least a metre from 
parked

cars to help reduce the risk of a collision.

“For cyclists it can be intimidating to stay away from the doors and 
take

the space that you need, but your safety is more important than anyone’s
convenience,” said Shearer.

The e-bike rider is the second person to die after being “doored” in 
Ottawa

in the past five years.

Cyclist Danielle Nacu was killed in October 2011 after she was hit 
with a
car door while cycling on Queen Street. The 33-year-old was knocked 
off her

bike and into the path of an oncoming vehicle.

A new law that came into effect in September increased the fine for a 
driver

found guilty of dooring a cyclist to $365 and three demerit points.

No charges have been laid in Monday’s collision, although police were
continuing to investigate ...
[© 2016 Postmedia Network]
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Re: [EVDL] Question: L5-30P vs L6-30P

[Tom Keenan via EV]

If you look at the linked chart, the main difference is that the hot and 
neutral (two hots on the L6-30) are reversed, as far as width goes.  Because of 
the switched widths, they won't plug into the other voltage receptacle.  
https://frentzandsons.com/Hardware%20References/twistlockplugandreceptacle.htm

Tom Keenan

> On Jan 17, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Seth Rothenberg via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> I am assembling my OpenEVSE
> and contemplating the extension cords
> and adaptors I will need
> 
> When I decommissioned some old Sun servers
> a few years ago, I saved the power cords.
> 
> 30' with a 30 am 250 V locking plug on the end,
> To my eye, it seems to be identical
> to the 30a 125 V locking plug on the desk-side UPS
> that I got (from the same source :-)
> But they are labeled with different voltages.
> 
> Are these the same?   I could get a socket for
> one or both and see, but a link to more info
> would be great.
> 
> Thanks
> Seth
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[EVDL] Subject: Re: Leaf donor car? Re: Books on converting a car to ev?

[Steve Clunn via EV]

> Personally, I'd rather contract out the whole EV thing. My goal is not to
become an EV expert. My goal is to have an EV ONLY because it is a
marketing tool. I personally would be just as happy with an ICE because I
can't justify the added cost of an EV..>

Hi ALL Audrey here.!
Steve Clunn, who has been on your list for many years, showed me your
post... I had him do a VETTE  a few years ago... it can be seen on the
HOME page of our WEB PAGE...  We did it with TWO 9" Warp's and a 2K
Zilla...  kind of sounds like what you all are talking about here.
Steve was very impressed with the low power consumption, I believe
300Watts per mile,  although this was at slow speeds...( Leas Acid
Batteries that we loaned him were a little tired)   The customer could
not afford the batteries at the time, so we we LOANED him some lead
acid batteries.

8 years ago, when everyone told ME  .. NOT TO go into an EV Business.
... I forged ahead, against all odds, and a terrible economy, and gas
at $4.29 a Gal. to what I have today.  A small EV company with 2
employees...converting mostly MEMORY CARS  ( 1950...to about 1980's)
Classics. That said,  Steve is doing a 1998 Porsche Carrera right
now.

I was a little surprised that Derrick Berger didn't give more
information about the batteries he is selling.  ( you can see the
specs on our web page under HIGH END BATTERIES)..   Steve was doing
some work for the man that imported a UPS Truck load of these
batteries, probably 5 years ago.  I think my prices on these are as
cheap as any ones.  Steve made a pack of these for a College and put
them in a  8x10.5  ( size of a Golf Cart ) box  and test drove the
pack with his electric pick up.  He was VERY happy that day... driving
the pick up around on ONE battery the size of a Golf Cart Battery !!!
Unfortunately, we don't have the specs on this project .. or any
pictures

Probably our most successful business plan is our  "ASSISTED
PROGRAM"..  ( under the COSTS Tab on our web page) was the bright Idea
of Steve.   Basically, you buy the parts from me,... bring  YOU and
YOUR VEHICLE to OUR shop...and you and steve go at it TOGETHER for not
only a reduced hourly rate, but some FUN Hands ON Experience. !!...
ANYTHING that you can do without Steve's help,  you can do at our shop
in YOUR SPOT AT NO CHARGE.  When you need steve's help, he is back
on the clock !   This may sound too good to be true, can you imagine
going to a tire shop, and taking the tire off the car... putting it ON
their tire machine, and then only paying for the tire guy to twist it
OFF with a machine...and put on a new one. Then YOU putting it
back on the car and paying for 5 minutes worth of work. Sounds too
good to be true, but it is.This is one of the things that has kept
my business going. !!

Another point,  is we are at the lowest gas prices in many years. And
there still seems to be quite a bit of interest.   Thing should only
get better from here. Best to JUMP on the TRAIN NOW !!

Audrey Clunn
Green Shed Conversions


-- 
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Merging the best of the past with
the best of the future.
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Re: [EVDL] OT fcv deliveries halted> 2few pumps, need appt4 slow-1/2-fill(150mi), +more

[Peri Hartman via EV]

I'll add: while it may be true that hydrogen for fuel cells comes from 
methane generated by anaerobic fermentation, that is irrelevant.


Why? Because, even with the enormous mountains of waste we produce, that 
can only produce a small percentage of the hydrogen needed to power all 
the vehicles in the country.  It may look good on a small scale but 
can't be done on a large scale.


Incidentally, that's a different case from buying RECs or using solar 
panels to generate electricity to charge your EV.  That model is 
scalable.


Peri

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Sent: 16-Jan-16 1:54:53 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] OT fcv deliveries halted> 2few pumps, need appt4 
slow-1/2-fill(150mi), +more



 From: Mark Abramowitz via EV 

 On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:29 AM, dovepa via EV  
wrote:


 Currently most hydrogen is produced by natural gas reforming which 
is not green at all.


 But for auto fueling, that which is reformed is frequently made from 
renewable methane, so *is* green.


But almost all methane comes form natgas, no? I realize it is possible 
to make it from aneorbic fermentation, but almost none of that is in 
the market, being made by micro producers for their own use. Methane is 
a “stranded market,” not suitable for shipping long distances, so 
“renewable methane” tends to be consumed right next to dairy farms, 
feedlots, etc. where it is produced.



 Disclosure: one of my clients is in the hydrogen industry.


Disclosure: I’ve studied this in some detail, and have made bio-methane 
for cooking, which is most useful at low pressure — it takes as much 
energy as is in the methane to compress it to the ~500 torr necessary 
to have any driving range.


If you have some references, I’d love to see them!

Jan

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