Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so you can't have a Tesla

2016-02-05 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Hi David, Apparently we have different views ;-) Just some things to consider: We do not know what was said in the phone conversation. We know that this person has a history of being rude and negative It might be that Elon is simply standing up to the people who think they can be as rude as they

Re: [EVDL] Exploding hoverboard fires: Petaluma-CA house & Erie-PA SUV

2016-02-05 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
The trick is to find one that automatically turns on when the power goes out. Anyway, this is getting OT. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "John Lussmyer via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" ; "Lee Hart" Sent:

Re: [EVDL] The reasons for a solar car.

2016-02-05 Thread Roger Stockton via EV
Peri Hartman wrote: > I don't think the desire for crash safety will go away. Just because > the odds decrease doesn't mean one doesn't want protection. I can go > on, but I think everyone knows what I mean. In a word: "Titanic". ;^> Cheers, Roger.

Re: [EVDL] A couple of Leaf observations. With more added on.

2016-02-05 Thread Thos True via EV
ber, it is not that the glass is half empty, in reality, the glass is merely twice the size that it needs to be! -TNT'82 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160205/a2d26462/attachment.htm&g

Re: [EVDL] The reasons for a solar car. 

2016-02-05 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Lawrence, I took another, close look at the article. It is a very impressive project and shows that it is possible to build a long range solar vehicle. Not only that, it appears the group worked hard to build a vehicle that one could imagine morphing into a production vehicle. That said,

Re: [EVDL] Exploding hoverboard fires: Petaluma-CA house & Erie-PA SUV

2016-02-05 Thread Michael Ross via EV
lt;http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Google Phone (919) 600-2892 Cell michael.e.r.

Re: [EVDL] Exploding hoverboard fires: Petaluma-CA house & Erie-PA SUV

2016-02-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Feb 2016 at 15:17, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I was considering buying an emergency flashlight that stays plugged in > all the time ... I decided not to - until the Chinese develop a better > reputation for putting a BMS in their lithium ion products. For a cheap gadget like that (or

Re: [EVDL] A couple of Leaf observations.

2016-02-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Lawrence, you get amazing range. I wish I could get range like that. Although I have to admit it's rare that I take it further than about 10 miles on the freeway. The majority is on hilly, stop & go city streets where I get closer to 2.5 to 3.5 miles / kwh. Out of

Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so you can't have a Tesla

2016-02-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I'm probably swimming against the current here, but I don't think this reflects well on Tesla. The blogger wasn't very polite, but these days everybody's a critic. You expect that in business. IMO, the best response to a post like that is to say "Thanks for

Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so you can't have a Tesla

2016-02-05 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Businessmen will not agree with you. Every business deal is a balance between cost and profit. Usually it is only the price and placement that determines which customers will buy. If a particular deal is suspected to have a large risk of increased cost, such as a financially unstable client or

Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so you can't have a Tesla

2016-02-05 Thread dovepa via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Exploding hoverboard fires: Petaluma-CA house & Erie-PA SUV

2016-02-05 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I was considering buying an emergency flashlight that stays plugged in all the time, automatically turns on when the power goes off (like a commercial emergency light) but can be grabbed and used as a flashlight. Made in China. From stories like these I decided not to

Re: [EVDL] The reasons for a solar car.

2016-02-05 Thread Larry Gales via EV
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Re: [EVDL] The reasons for a solar car.

2016-02-05 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so SPACEX won't be providing the return trip...

2016-02-05 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
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[EVDL] PFC-30

2016-02-05 Thread via EV
Do you have any pictures? Does this have digipot upgrade? Amp meter? The last pfc-30 I saw sell on DIYelectriccar.com went for $1300, how does that price suit you? Much thanks, Rick Hi All, I have a PFC-30 for sale. I've been trying to list it on EV Trading Post, but Arron hasn't put up the

Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so you can't have a Tesla

2016-02-05 Thread Jorg Brown via EV
a may require some class, it is > not for rude losers. I consider this a brilliant move from Elon. No wonder > they do not need a marketing dept. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160

Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so you can't have a Tesla

2016-02-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Feb 2016 at 10:38, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I consider this a brilliant move from Elon. Sorry, I stand my ground. Musk's response was far from brilliant, it was just plain childish. A person of maturity and character would have stood tall, maintained his dignity, better yet used

Re: [EVDL] Exploding hoverboard fires: Petaluma-CA house & Erie-PA SUV

2016-02-05 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Fri Feb 05 12:40:16 PST 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Peri Hartman via EV wrote: >Flashlights are a perfect "Draino" product. Ten cents worth of materials >that sells for ten dollars. Sold on advertising claims and appearance. >But then it isn't used, and goes in the cupboard "just in case". If

[EVDL] 17-year-old Jaden Smith poses with his Tesla-X EV

2016-02-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3428690/Jaden-Smith-shows-rare-Tesla-Model-X-flashes-nail-polish-Los-Angeles.html Front of the queue! Jaden Smith shows off his rare Tesla Model X and gets a kiss from girlfriend Sarah Snyder 3 February 2016 CAITLIN O'TOOLE AND KATE THOMAS [images

[EVDL] EVLN: UK Leaf EV Cabbie save$ & customers love riding Electric

2016-02-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://nissaninsider.co.uk/cabbie-is-first-in-town-to-go-electric-and-urges-more-to-do-the-same/ Cabbie goes electric – and urges others to follow [20160201] [image http://nissaninsider.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/BROMSGROVE3.jpg (Passaris' Leaf EV) ] A TAXI driver has become the first

[EVDL] EVLN: Top 10 Things I Love About My EV

2016-02-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'Two years later> there is no turning back' http://breakingenergy.com/2016/02/01/10-things-i-love-about-my-electric-vehicle-2/ 10 Things I Love About My Electric Vehicle February 01, 2016 Erik Nelsen [image http://breakingenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/03/98809081-1.jpg German

[EVDL] Exploding hoverboard fires: Petaluma-CA house & Erie-PA SUV

2016-02-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.petaluma360.com/news/5167811-181/hoverboard-started-exploding-in-petaluma Hoverboard ‘started exploding’ in Petaluma house fire February 4, 2016 RIC GNECKOWARGUS [image

[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla trailer full of batteries to boost range toyed & scrapped

2016-02-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'Short trips you're hauling around all that extra mass for no reason' 'Self-driving Nomadic Power battery trailers for EVs' http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/elon-musk-tesla-toyed-making-trailer-full-batteries-boost-model-s-range-1541292 Elon Musk: Tesla toyed with making trailer full of batteries to

Re: [EVDL] Exploding hoverboard fires: Petaluma-CA house & Erie-PA SUV

2016-02-05 Thread paul dove via EV
;http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Google Phone (919) 600-2892 Cell micha

Re: [EVDL] The reasons for a solar car.

2016-02-05 Thread Brandon Hines via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Exploding hoverboard fires: Petaluma-CA house & Erie-PA SUV

2016-02-05 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
I have reviewed several Chinese-made Li-Ion battery packs and although some are pretty good, the typical BMS that I see will not prevent from over-charging a cell, they typically only have a "bypass resistor when the cell is full" which is supposed to work well as long as most cells are

Re: [EVDL] A couple of Leaf observations. With more added on.

2016-02-05 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
I noticed Lee Hart saying he doesn't charge to 100%.  Why.  Nissan in their wisdom doesn't allow us to charge to 100%.  So if you don't you are more like at 70%.  I now have Leaf Spy and even on slow level two charge can't get more than 97.3%.  A fast charge in 45 minutes might get as high as

Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so SPACEX won't be providing the return trip...

2016-02-05 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so you can't have a Tesla

2016-02-05 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
On Feb 5, 2016, at 12:25 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > > Sorry, I stand my ground. Musk's response was far from brilliant, it was > just plain childish. A person of maturity and character would have stood > tall, maintained his dignity, better yet used a little

[EVDL] Jadens Smith's new ride

2016-02-05 Thread K O via EV
AH HA! I dropped by the TESLA shop in WC today to make sure they were still there [they are] and was pleased to see a Red Model S outside full of bubbling teenage girls and the Black S inside full with a full assortment of teenage boys. They were having a great time and didn't seem phased at