Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
The first part of this is off topic, but I'll eventually bring it back to EVs, so hang on. Many folks here probably know about the part that IBM played in early PCs, but some may not realize that IBM was pretty late to the small computer party. The IBM PC didn't hit the market until the

Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:57 AM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On Wed Mar 08 09:58:47 PST 2017 ev@lists.evdl.org said: There I agree 100%. There's a reason that IBM, Remington Rand, and Burroughs weren't the ones who developed the first practical

Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:57 AM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > > On Wed Mar 08 09:58:47 PST 2017 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >> There I agree 100%. There's a reason that IBM, Remington Rand, and >> Burroughs weren't the ones who developed the first practical personal >> computers. >

Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread paul dove via EV
My point was that it may not be political at all or have anything to do will oil. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 8, 2017, at 11:58 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > >> On 8 Mar 2017 at 6:50, paul dove via EV wrote: >> >> To me it is quite understandable why

[EVDL] OT / Re: Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
GM is big enough to sit on their backsides until they are ready and even fail a few times before they get it right but put the ‘GM brand’ on an electric car and many many people will see it as ‘real’ and begin to buy them. I am seeing a waiting list for the BOLT here in Vancouver. People are

Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Ok, getting really off topic, but the IBM PC came after Microsoft determined it was a useful personal device on its own. Orignally, IBM considered it as a data entry machine, to be used only with mainframes. They had another name for it which I can't remember. It was only after they saw how

Re: [EVDL] Subject: Clean Power bites the dust

2017-03-08 Thread Willie via EV
On 03/08/2017 11:44 AM, Cruisin via EV wrote: Sounds like a knock off of the Mini BMS Yes, just as miniBMS was a knock off of the Australian . I first used the Australian system about 2008 and would have continued had he not stopped supply needed replacement parts. The Australian, in

Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread Gail Lucas via EV
Right on David. When I became concerned about air quality Las Vegas was one of the most polluted cities in the country, in the worst 3%. The EPA and local Health District implemented regulations on wood burning fireplaces, vehicle emissions and dust from construction sites. We can now see our

Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Wed Mar 08 09:58:47 PST 2017 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >There I agree 100%. There's a reason that IBM, Remington Rand, and >Burroughs weren't the ones who developed the first practical personal >computers. You mean, like the IBM PC? :-) -- Worlds only All Electric F-250 truck!

Re: [EVDL] Subject: Clean Power bites the dust

2017-03-08 Thread Cruisin via EV
Sounds like a knock off of the Mini BMS -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Subject-Clean-Power-bites-the-dust-tp4686089p4686097.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [EVDL] Subject: Clean Power bites the dust

2017-03-08 Thread Matthew Quitter via EV
ss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ > group/NEDRA) > > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://e

Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 8 Mar 2017 at 6:50, paul dove via EV wrote: > To me it is quite understandable why automobile manufacturers do not want to > make electric vehicles. If I have a company making something I wouldn't want > to government to tell me I had to make something else. Of course! Nobody wants to be

Re: [EVDL] Subject: Clean Power bites the dust

2017-03-08 Thread Gary Krysztopik via EV
t; ___ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.ya

Re: [EVDL] Subject: Clean Power bites the dust

2017-03-08 Thread paul dove via EV
Thats good but thermal monitoring is necessary with many chemistries. Every laptop battery I have every taken apart had thermal sensors on each cell. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > > On Wed Mar 08 08:08:01 PST 2017

Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread paul dove via EV
To me it is quite understandable why automobile manufacturers do not want to make electric vehicles. If I have a company making something I wouldn't want to government to tell me I had to make something else. I think new companies need to start up making electric vehicles and just let Detroit

Re: [EVDL] Subject: Clean Power bites the dust

2017-03-08 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Wed Mar 08 08:08:01 PST 2017 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Would you share what you're doing to build a BMS, what you've learnt etc? This is my 5th BMS version. I originally had units with little micro computers on them, and all kinds of nifty digital features. (revs 1 - 3) PITA to program,

Re: [EVDL] Subject: Clean Power bites the dust

2017-03-08 Thread Matthew Quitter via EV
at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ > group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170308/9eead6df/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.e

[EVDL] Subject: Clean Power bites the dust

2017-03-08 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Wed Mar 08 06:31:03 PST 2017 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >In the past we have used the Mini BMS on low voltage projects like >Electric Lawn Mowers and Golf Carts. Now that Clean Power is no >longer, I have been beta testing other BMS'. There are many different And there are also hobbyiests (like

[EVDL] Subject: Clean Power bites the dust

2017-03-08 Thread Steve Clunn via EV
In the past we have used the Mini BMS on low voltage projects like Electric Lawn Mowers and Golf Carts. Now that Clean Power is no longer, I have been beta testing other BMS'. There are many different boards on Ebay that can handle up to 22 cells and do a small amount of balancing. 60ma seems to

[EVDL] OT (Donald is) Who killed the Electric Car II

2017-03-08 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% Building on Rush's post https://www.mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/msg19676.html I felt it was important to document this point in time of the status of EVs and the dark fossil force$ to kill it. I already had queued Rush's item for posting later (above), and a couple others when I

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170308

2017-03-08 Thread brucedp5 via EV
... http://evdl.org/evln/ For all EVLN EV-newswire posts {brucedp.neocities.org} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-EV-newswire-posts-for-20170308-tp4686086.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive a