Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla

2018-10-08 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20181008

2018-10-08 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Google-Waymo-fleet-tapping-20k-I-Pace-EVs-tp4691363.html EVLN: Google/Waymo fleet tapping 20k I-Pace EVs Jaguar's first all-electric car will be in Waymo's self-driving car fleet Oct 3, 2018 Here's the electric Jaguar that Waymo

[EVDL] EVLN: $3.6M 1150HP Aspark Owl e-Hypercar r:300km ts:280kph 0-100kph:1.85s

2018-10-08 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://jalopnik.com/japans-aspark-owl-electric-hypercar-now-has-1-150-hp-an-1829527062 Japan's Aspark Owl Electric Hypercar Now Has 1,150 HP and Goes For $3.6 Million 2018-10-04 Justin T. Westbrook [image / Aspark

[EVDL] EVLN: Google/Waymo fleet tapping 20k I-Pace EVs

2018-10-08 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://mashable.com/article/jaguar-i-pace-electric-waymo/#ZuZJknjN2PqR Jaguar's first all-electric car will be in Waymo's self-driving car fleet 2018-10-04 Sasha Lekach [images / Jaguar LAND ROVER

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla

2018-10-08 Thread George E Swartz via EV
I didn't like the idea of thousands of little cells either, when I first looked at the Tesla design. The key word here is "availability", not MTBF, or reliability. The Tesla battery can withstand many single point failures without affecting performance or operation of the car, therefore the car

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla

2018-10-08 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Wow, huge misunderstanding of "reliability".. There is a huge difference between the poor reliability of large numbers of single-point failures compared to the HUGE redundancy in the Tesla battery with dozens of parallel redundancy at each step of the battery. I'd take the Tesla design any day

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla

2018-10-08 Thread Ron Solberg via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla

2018-10-08 Thread Rod Hower via EV
Mark, You probably shouldn't use microcontrollers because they have millions of transistors with the potential of failure, better stick with the bipolar transistor!  Good luck with that! On Monday, October 8, 2018 3:45 PM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: Aside from the high price the main

Re: [EVDL] Wanted: Cyclone 4000 watt bare motor.

2018-10-08 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla

2018-10-08 Thread paul dove via EV
I don’t think your fears are based on any real data. The prismatic cells used in other cars have just as many points of failure they are just packaged differently. I cut open batteries and they contain layers of cells all connected in parallel. It’s the same thing except the cells aren’t fused

Re: [EVDL] Wanted: Cyclone 4000 watt bare motor.

2018-10-08 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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[EVDL] ECN Magazine: Taking Lithium-Ion Batteries To New Extremes

2018-10-08 Thread Len Moskowitz via EV
A passive, low-cost, effective, thermal regulator for Li-ion batteries, using shape memory alloy. https://www.ecnmag.com/news/2018/10/taking-lithium-ion-batteries-new-extremes - Just like Goldilocks and her proverbial porridge, lithium-ion batteries (LIBs) perform best when the

Re: [EVDL] Wanted: Cyclone 4000 watt bare motor.

2018-10-08 Thread ken via EV
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[EVDL] Wanted: Cyclone 4000 watt bare motor.

2018-10-08 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla

2018-10-08 Thread Damon Henry via EV
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[EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla

2018-10-08 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Aside from the high price the main reason I wouldn't buy a Tesla is they're the only manufacturer that has uses 6800 flashlight batteries (2170) in an onroad vehicle. I just think of all those points of failure and the complexity of monitoring that reduces reliability. While Consumer Reports

Re: [EVDL] Rules ClarificationRe: (no subject)

2018-10-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
The guidelines (not exactly rules) on EV business on the EVDL don't say anything about where you work being a problem. Here's what they DO say. The EVDL is a noncommercial, informational resource. We don't allow it to be used for selling stuff. This includes posts that mainly promote a product

[EVDL] Rules ClarificationRe: (no subject)

2018-10-08 Thread Ron Solberg via EV
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[EVDL] Having it both ways

2018-10-08 Thread Ron Solberg via EV
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2018-10-08 Thread Damon Henry via EV
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2018-10-08 Thread Ron Solberg via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: popularmechanics.com reviews $64k Tesla-3p EV

2018-10-08 Thread Ron Solberg via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: popularmechanics.com reviews $64k Tesla-3p EV

2018-10-08 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Don’t kid yourself lots of cars already have many of the features. GPS tracking, drive recorders, remote shutoff etc. As far as fixing salvaged vehicles well, it’s slightly different than a gasoline vehicle in determining if it’s safe for the road. It’s understandable that they would want to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: popularmechanics.com reviews $64k Tesla-3p EV

2018-10-08 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Yeah, I get most of that. When the roadster came out, he promised his “affordable” car within a few years. I expected about $30-35k. But it is what it is. As far as the electronics, I think that you’re seeing the future. Both my Mirai and Clarity collect tons of data, though there is nothing