[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20181226
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EVLN: swantaxis.com.au EVs save$ levy-slugging Uber-customers
WA Government to bring in 10 per cent “Uber tax” on April Fool’s Day
December 22, 2018 ... taxi reform legislation, there is an exemption for
wholly electric vehicles to pay the levy ... ComfortDelGro, the parent
company of Swan Taxis, said on Friday that potentially they could introduce
an electric vehicle fleet by the middle of 2019 ... EVs exempt from the taxi
plate buyback levy ... experience a greener co$t saving travel option ...
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Buy-Your-Tesla-EV-the-NV-Gigafactory1-ends-2018-12-31-tp4692303.html
EVLN: Buy Your Tesla EV @the NV Gigafactory1> ends 2018/12/31
You Can Now Buy Your Tesla EV at Gigafactory 1
December 21, 2018 That's a nice little Christmas embellishment! Perhaps
it's a small incentive to go all the way out there to buy a Tesla electric
car. Nonetheless, this latest initiative ...
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http://www.govtech.com/fs/transportation/Smart-Columbus-Encourages-Uber-Drivers-to-Go-Electric.html
Smart Columbus Encourages Uber Drivers to Go Electric
December 21, 2018 Ubers in Columbus, Ohio, may be getting a whole lot
quieter, and more sustainable ... Known officially as the “Smart Columbus
Transportation Service Provider Battery Electric Vehicle Rebate Program,”
the project has $90,000 in incentive funding ...
http://media2.govtech.com/images/940*630/shutterstock_1059703691.jpg
https://electrek.co/2018/12/21/tesla-drivers-speeding/
Tesla drivers are being caught speeding at a much higher rate than most in
the Netherlands
Dec. 21st 2018 Interesting data about speeding tickets in the Netherlands
showed that electric vehicle drivers, and Tesla drivers specifically, are
being caught speeding at a ...
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EV-ancestor-Zippy-1972-Fiat-X1-23-NiZn-pack-r-50mi-ts-45mph-tp4692270.html
EV ancestor: Zippy 1972 Fiat X1/23 NiZn-pack r:50mi ts:45mph
Way back in 1972, Fiat showed off this wild styling concept of a small
electric city car called the X1/23
2018-12-16 ... had installed a 13.5 HP front-drive motor, and a rack of
nickel-zinc batteries behind the pair of seats. It was good for about 45
miles per hour, and had a range of about 50 miles ...
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[EVDL] EVLN: swantaxis.com.au EVs save$ levy-slugging Uber-customers
https://www.perthnow.com.au/technology/uber/wa-government-to-bring-in-10-per-cent-uber-tax-on-april-fools-day-ng-b881058191z
WA Government to bring in 10 per cent “Uber tax” on April Fool’s Day
December 22, 2018 Joe Spagnolo
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The controversial 10 per cent “Uber tax” will start on April 1, the State
Government has confirmed.
Transport Minister Rita Saffioti yesterday moved to end weeks of speculation
about when the 10 per cent taxi and on-demand transport levy would start,
saying April Fool’s Day was the date.
Sources have told The Sunday Times that January had initially been pencilled
in , but that IT issues had now made that date impossible.
“When the legislation passed I said we said we would look to have the levy
in place in early 2019,” Ms Saffioti said.
“The April 1 timeline honours that commitment and ensures all operators and
passengers have ample time to prepare for the change.
“The historic reforms provide a level playing field by stripping out other
costs and boosting competition in the on-demand transport market, creating
more choice for West Australians.”
The 10 per cent levy will be used to fund a multimillion-dollar compensation
payout to taxi plate owners.
The timing for the taxi plate buyback is mid-2019.
Ms Saffioti said the Department of Transport was currently “finalising its
IT systems for collection of the temporary levy”.
“All operators will be required to attain authorisation under the new system
and to participate in the temporary levy,” she said. “If an operator is not
authorised, they cannot legally operate.”
As reported in The Sunday Times [
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/fare-levy-to-pay-taxi-driver-compensation-scheme-ng-6348bb58cc2b6ededf535abea38dfb1d
], Uber has already said it will pass on the 10 per cent levy — which is on
all rides — to customers.
Shofer last week became the first ride-sharing service to indicate it may
absorb the Government’s new 10 per cent levy on fares.
It emerged this week that Swan Taxis was trialling electric vehicles — a
move which could ultimately save it from having to slug customers a levy.
As part of new taxi reform legislation, there is an exemption for wholly
electric vehicles to pay the levy.
A spokesman for ComfortDelGro, the parent company of Swan Taxis, said on
Friday that potentially they could introduce an electric vehicle fleet by
the middle of 2019.
“ComfortDelGro understands that electric vehicles (will) be exempt from the
taxi plate buyback levy,” the spokesman said.
“If electric vehicles were to be introduced into the Swan Taxis fleet,
customers would not only experience a greener travel option, they would also
experience a cost saving.”
Ms Saffioti denied that Swan Taxis moving towards electric vehicles would
have a major impact on the Government’s buyback scheme.
“We will be watching any potential electric vehicle trial with interest,”
she said. “It is expected that any impact on the revenue collection over
four years would be minimal and limited.”
[© perthnow.com.au]
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ComfortDelGro Swan Taxis
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http://www.govtech.com/fs/transportation/Smart-Columbus-Encourages-Uber-Drivers-to-Go-Electric.html
Smart Columbus Encourages Uber Drivers to Go Electric
December 21, 2018 Ubers in Columbus, Ohio, may be getting a whole lot
quieter, and more sustainable ... Known officially as the “Smart Columbus
Transportation Service Provider Battery Electric Vehicle Rebate Program,”
the project has $90,000 in incentive funding ...
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[EVDL] (spied, e-drone flyover)> Tesla Lathrop-CA EV distribution (v)
% fyi- Lathrop is one of several CA central-valley cities that are used as companies' distribution sites. A few miles north, the port of Stockton allows for ocean shipping. These cities are straddled between two major highways (I-5 & 99) which allow for truck transport running north and south. Tesla's Lathrop site also has easy access between Tesla's other sites: Deer Creek R, Palo Alto, CA Factory, Fremont, CA Distribution, Lathrop, CA Gigafactory, Sparks, NV (see map) https://goo.gl/maps/5jb6sTA9LPC2 % The new Lathrop site's progress comes amidst the electric car maker's efforts to produce and deliver as many vehicles to customers before the end of December. https://youtu.be/cPUBJKRMAuA https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-new-lathrop-site-update-elon-musk-model-3-q4-production-and-deliveries-push/ Tesla’s new Lathrop site nears completion amid Elon Musk’s Q4 Model 3 push December 23, 2018 Simon Alvarez [images https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/tesla-lathrop-facility.jpg shares https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1076549215151566848 Elon Musk @elonmusk Tesla has released all cars for sale where original customer can’t take delivery before year end, as well as test drive / display cars, which cost less. Reminder to US buyers that $7500 tax credit drops in half in 8 days. Order online at http://Tesla.com or visit stores. 12:45 PM - Dec 22, 2018 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1076554450720837632 Wang Meister @wangmeister · Dec 22, 2018Replying to @elonmusk Thank you for replying sir. What will happen if someone’s pre-December order doesn’t make it in time? Elon Musk @elonmusk If Tesla committed delivery & customer made good faith efforts to receive before year end, Tesla will cover the tax credit difference 1:05 PM - Dec 22, 2018 video / Troopr1023/YouTube https://youtu.be/cPUBJKRMAuA Tesla Lathrop Distribution Center Update (Dec. 22, 2018) ... Lathrop facility’s latest drone flyover ] Tesla’s 870,000 sq ft building in the city of Lathrop, CA continues to take shape, with the massive and rather mysterious facility’s roofing now being complete. The new Lathrop site’s progress comes amidst the electric car maker’s efforts to produce and deliver as many vehicles to customers before the end of December. Tesla enthusiast and drone operator Troopr1023 noted in a YouTube upload that the facility is significantly more refined since his last flyover, which was conducted last November 18. During that time, the large building only had around 2/3 of its roofing installed, and there was very little work being done around the facility. Apart from its full roofing, the areas of the facility where its numerous loading bays are located are now being overlaid with cement. A parking lot located in what appears to be the facility’s front end is also being constructed. The drone operator did note, though, that the spaces allotted for parking lots immediately around the site are rather few; thus, giving the impression that the facility would likely have relatively few employees. Tesla is yet to disclose the purpose of the Lathrop facility, though speculations are abounding that the site might be used as a distribution center. Considering that the structure is built with numerous loading bays on each end, and considering that the size of each bay seems to be designed to fit a semi-trailer, it does seem plausible that the structure would be used in connection with Tesla’s vehicle distribution activities. Even prior to the construction of the 870,000 sq ft building, Tesla’s presence in Lathrop was already notable. Local news agency Manteca Bulletin, for one, noted that the upcoming facility would be complimenting a 500,000 sq ft Tesla-owned site in the city. Lathrop is also home to one of the electric car maker’s loading hubs, which holds vehicles before they are shipped to other locations. Tesla’s progress in the construction of the Lathrop facility comes amidst the company’s efforts to produce and deliver yet another record number of vehicles this quarter. The electric car maker defied the odds in Q3 by posting a $312 million profit, and since then, Elon Musk has noted that Tesla should remain cash-flow positive in the coming quarters as well. With the end of Q4 at hand, and with the $7,500 federal tax credit set to expire at the end of the month, Tesla CEO Elon Musk has been encouraging potential buyers to purchase an electric car today. In a recent series of tweets, Musk noted that Tesla is releasing inventory, display, and test drive vehicles for purchase. Musk even noted in a recent tweet that these vehicles, as well as cars that belonged to reservation holders who couldn’t take delivery before the year ended, would cost less. The bold CEO further added that orders for the Mid Range Model 3 should be delivered by the year’s end. Perhaps most notable, though, was an announcement that Musk recently made about the $7,500 federal tax credit. When asked by a Mid
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: L3 DC charging leaves L2 AC face-down in the dust
> Meanwhile, home DC charging is on the way. Utilities that incentivize AC > home charging may soon find that customers are already moving on to more > efficient DC home charging that can connect to the grid, store energy, and > send and receive utility pricing signals. How is off board home DC charging more efficient than what already happens now with home charging? There is still an AC-DC conversion happening so why complicate home charging installation, especially if I would then have to carry around an AC-DC charger rather than a less bulky EVSE to charge most anywhere? -- David D. Nelson ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation “cleaner” (GHG emissions) than the grid
“Then at night, you may be charging on on "fossil" power; but it's just getting back the power you "loaned" the grid by day.” I’m not so sure about this. We do store some PV for use later, but where we can’t, that resource just gets curtailed (or we pay Arizona to take it). - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Dec 24, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Lee Hart wrote: > > From: Mark Abramowitz via EV >> See the subject of the thread for the bottom line answer, though things are >> never as simple as a one-liner. > > That's for sure! It's not a simple problem; so there are no simple answers. > If anyone who has a simple answer, it's probably wrong. :-) > >> For someone who wanted to jump into the deep data, something I learned >> recently is that for those charging from the grid at night, the energy they >> are using is virtually all non-renewable (fossil). And I’m told that most of >> it is from fracked natural gas.(this is all California perspective - other >> areas use more coal on the grid) > > I can believe it. Power at night is going to come from the base load plants, > which are likely to be coal, hydro, or nuclear (or gas in CA). So where your > EV charging power comes from will depend on where you live. > > California isn't the center of the world; but it probably has the highest > concentration of EVs (at least in the US). It's ironic that much of the > state's EV charging power is coming from fossil fuels. > >> For those of you that are thinking that faced with this information, battery >> EV are not worth pushing any more (haha), I’ll say that you are still wrong. >> BOTH are still important, and needed. > > That's for sure! Electrons aren't traceable, and generation has to exactly > match consumption at every second. > > But you can have PV panels generate power during the day. You don't need it; > so it gets used by someone else on the grid. It reduces the amount of fossil > fuel that gets used by day. Then at night, you may be charging on on "fossil" > power; but it's just getting back the power you "loaned" the grid by day. > > To me, the fundamental problem is out infatuation with "monoculture" > solutions. Government and big business want one-size-fits-all solutions. But > everyone is different. We our situations are *different*, so we need to be > able to choose from different solutions that meet our individual needs. There > is going to be a place for hydrogen, batteries, wind, solar, and even fossil > fuels for a long time to come. It's just the balance between them that needs > to change. > > -- > Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James > -- > Lee A. Hart http://www.sunrise-ev.com > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation “cleaner” (GHG emissions) than the grid
From: Mark Abramowitz via EV >See the subject of the thread for the bottom line answer, though things are >never as simple as a one-liner. That's for sure! It's not a simple problem; so there are no simple answers. If anyone who has a simple answer, it's probably wrong. :-) >For someone who wanted to jump into the deep data, something I learned >recently is that for those charging from the grid at night, the energy they >are using is virtually all non-renewable (fossil). And I’m told that most of >it is from fracked natural gas.(this is all California perspective - other >areas use more coal on the grid) I can believe it. Power at night is going to come from the base load plants, which are likely to be coal, hydro, or nuclear (or gas in CA). So where your EV charging power comes from will depend on where you live. California isn't the center of the world; but it probably has the highest concentration of EVs (at least in the US). It's ironic that much of the state's EV charging power is coming from fossil fuels. >For those of you that are thinking that faced with this information, battery >EV are not worth pushing any more (haha), I’ll say that you are still wrong. >BOTH are still important, and needed. That's for sure! Electrons aren't traceable, and generation has to exactly match consumption at every second. But you can have PV panels generate power during the day. You don't need it; so it gets used by someone else on the grid. It reduces the amount of fossil fuel that gets used by day. Then at night, you may be charging on on "fossil" power; but it's just getting back the power you "loaned" the grid by day. To me, the fundamental problem is out infatuation with "monoculture" solutions. Government and big business want one-size-fits-all solutions. But everyone is different. We our situations are *different*, so we need to be able to choose from different solutions that meet our individual needs. There is going to be a place for hydrogen, batteries, wind, solar, and even fossil fuels for a long time to come. It's just the balance between them that needs to change. -- Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James -- Lee A. Hart http://www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation “cleaner” (GHG emissions) than the grid
I must have blinked or maybe I'm blind. Could you please repeat your citation for cases where hydrogen generation (from non fossil fuels) currently is cleaner than grid electricity. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Mark Abramowitz" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 23-Dec-18 6:49:49 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation “cleaner” (GHG emissions) than the grid See the subject of the thread for the bottom line answer, though things are never as simple as a one-liner. But I gave you my answer, and you didn’t want to accept it. I also gave you the reasons why, but you wanted sources, so there’s the table. I really don’t use this table - it was just to give you the info you wanted. I could pick and choose data pieces, but that wouldn’t be fair either. Hydrogen *can* be cleaner, and actually is frequently. For someone who wanted to jump into the deep data, something I learned recently is that for those charging from the grid at night, the energy they are using is virtually all non-renewable (fossil). And I’m told that most of it is from fracked natural gas.(this is all California perspective - other areas use more coal on the grid) For those of you that are thinking that faced with this information, battery EV are not worth pushing any more (haha), I’ll say that you are still wrong. BOTH are still important, and needed. And that’s been my point from the beginning. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone On Dec 23, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Mark, Thanks for posting this. Maybe someone else can benefit from it but I really don't know how to use this spreadsheet nor do I have the time to dedicate to learning it. If you would be able to answer the fundamental question, which I think can be done without reference to this spreadsheet, that would be most helpful. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Mark Abramowitz" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 23-Dec-18 3:34:36 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation “cleaner” (GHG emissions) than the grid I’ll you interpret the the results. I’ve seen a number of summary charts that various people have created, but you seem to want detail, so here are the detailed results of the current GREET model - California version: CA GREET model 2.0 results https://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/lcfs/ca_greet1.8b_dec09.xls Note: I don’t think that CO2 numbers are total CO2 equivalent (check this), so you might want to look at GHGs rather than CO2, if that’s the metric you want. Then again, I don’t know those numbers are CO2 equivalent either. Have fun. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone On Dec 23, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Alright, Mark, then let's look at it from a point of view of emissions (CO2 in particular). Do you have references showing that emissions from producing hydrogen (from non fossil fuels) have less than emissions from producing electricity for the same amount of traction energy? Peri ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Amphibious VW Type 7 Schwimmwagen (Swimming)EV(?): ... beach buggy
% more vw -pr- hype %
https://insideevs.com/vw-type-7-trademark-electric-amphibious-car/
Is VW Type 7 Trademark For Electric Amphibious Car?
2018-12-23 ... the last time VW used the name Type 7 was for a military
vehicle in the 1940s called the Schwimmwagen, which literally translates to
“Swimming Car.” Does this mean that VW is working on an amphibious concept?
... if the company uses the Type 7 for an additional electric concept to
extend the I.D. Concept range. An electric amphibious vehicle? ...
https://d2t6ms4cjod3h9.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/volkswagen-id-buzz-concept-at-pebble-beach.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Schwimmwagen
The VW Type 128 and 166 Schwimmwagen (literally Swimming Car) were
amphibious four-wheel drive off-roaders, used extensively by German ground
forces ...
Production?: ?14,265 (1942–44)
Wheelbase?: ?200 cm (78.7 in)
Manufacturer?: ?Volkswagen
Transmission?: ?4-speed manual; 2-speed transf...
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