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China's Hunger for Electric Vehicles Is Driving Manufacturing
May 17 2019 Nathaniel Bullard
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(Bloomberg Opinion) -- Last year, the world’s consumers bought more than 2
million electric vehicles. By 2025, they’ll be buying 10 million; by 2040,
56 million, according to BloombergNEF’s new long-term Electric Vehicle
Outlook. The report looks at how this fleet will transform transportation as
China’s 421,000 electric buses join those millions of personal EVs. As the
expanding electric fleet drives electricity demand up, it will also erode
demand for millions of barrels of oil. Globally, more than half of all new
car sales will be electric by 2040, but that figure varies by region. In
China, the world’s largest auto market, that figure will be closer to 70
percent; it’s nearly the same in Europe. The U.S. is the relative laggard,
at just under 60 percent.
My colleagues’ analysis includes some near-term indicators of the market, in
addition to their long-term projection of consumer adoption of EVs. One of
the clearest ones is manufacturer investment in production capacity.
BloombergNEF tracks more than $100 billion in investment between just four
automakers — Volkswagen AG, Hyundai Kia Automotive Group, Chongqing Changan
Automobile Co Ltd. and Daimler AG — with VW alone planning more than $50
billion.
Automakers must be producing something with all that manufacturing
capability, of course. BloombergNEF also tracks planned model releases. By
2025, manufacturers will offer nearly 400 EV models. VW will debut 80 on its
own, which is fitting given that it is also investing the most in EV
manufacturing. Fellow German automaker Bayerische Motoren Werke AG will
launch 47.
China looms large in any analysis of the future of the global auto market.
It’s already a larger market on its own than either North America or Europe.
More important, though, it has also been the main source of global growth in
auto demand in the past two decades. Consumers worldwide bought 47.5 million
new cars in 2001, and 81.4 million last year. China’s growth in that time,
to 28 million 2.4 million, comprised 76 percent of the world’s increase in
demand.
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Who’s Behind The War On Electric Cars?
May 17th, 2019 If you follow the news about electric cars, you are aware
that a serious amount of pushback against EVs is developing across America
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Messerschmitt KR200 Electric is in the works
I love it love it love it and... the rear steer is an abominable notion as the first test rider will strongly attest. But if they build it in numbers you could use the shell over a nicely engineered front steer piece, maybe off of a Dwarf racecar. Anything that goes over 3MPH is doomed with rear steer. Cheap though. sean On 5/17/19, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > https://newatlas.com/messerschmitt-kr25e-velomobile/59719/ > Quirky Messerschmitt velomobile rides again > May 16, 2019 Ben Coxworth > > [images / iDMOOVE, Messerschmitt-Werke > https://img.newatlas.com/messerschmitt-kr25e-velomobile-1.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress=Width%2CDPR=crop=347=60=0%2C54%2C901%2C507=616=a26a49e5f90c1f91289fbf1b6d22d040 > The Messerschmitt KR 25-E was unveiled at last month's Spezi specialty bike > show in Germany(Credit: iDMOOVE) > > https://img.newatlas.com/messerschmitt-kr25e-velomobile-11.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress=Width%2CDPR=max=60=616=67a8da3cbd779cd3055662a80ae15450 > The Messerschmitt KR 25-E's 36-volt/250-watt electric motor augments the > rider's pedalling power, taking them up to... > > https://img.newatlas.com/messerschmitt-kr25e-velomobile-6.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress=max=60=1000=3813d77080a5e79e27bf77e2178186f4 > > https://newatlas.com/messerschmitt-kr25e-velomobile/59719/#gallery > View gallery - 10 images > ] > > When it comes to weird little old cars, the Messerschmitt Kabinenroller was > one of the delightfully weirdest. Five years ago, we heard about a new > pedal-electric version of the vehicle, known as the Veloschmitt. Although > that model is no longer available, its successor has now entered production. > > - The Messerschmitt KR 25-E has hydraulic disc brakes > - Achim Adlfinger obtained the official license for the Messerschmitt name > - The Messerschmitt KR 25-E features joystick-controlled rear-wheel > steering > - The Messerschmitt KR 25-E weighs a claimed 85 kg (187 lb) > > The Veloschmitt was a two-seater velomobile, the latter term referring (more > or less) to a recumbent tricycle enclosed in an aerodynamic body. > > Created by German designers Achim Adlfinger and Fred Zimmermann, it was > discontinued after their Slovenian production partner went bankrupt. Now, > however, Adlfinger tells us that he has teamed up with French partner Didier > Helmstetter and velomobile designer Marcus von der Wehl to resurrect the > concept, this time as the Messerschmitt KR 25-E. > > More streamlined in appearance than the Veloschmitt, the KR 25-E is a > single-seater that uses a 36-volt/250-watt electric motor to augment the > rider's pedalling power, taking them up to a top speed of 25 km/h (16 mph). > Unusually, it features front-wheel drive and joystick-controlled rear-wheel > steering. Electrical power is provided by a 36-volt/17.2-Ah lithium battery > pack – a second pack can be added to increase the vehicle's range, although > there's no word on what that range is. > > Its body is made of a fiberglass composite, and includes a cockpit cover > that opens via remote control. The plexiglass "bubble" on that cover can > also be removed, turning the 25-E into a convertible. The whole vehicle > weighs a claimed 85 kg (187 lb), and can handle a maximum rider/cargo > payload of 120 kg (265 lb). > The Messerschmitt KR 25-E has front and rear suspension > > Some of its other features include front and rear suspension, hydraulic disc > brakes, an LED control screen, a full LED lighting system with turn > indicators, a Shimano 8-speed transmission with reverse, carbon composite > wheels, an electric horn, a cargo trunk, and a padded bucket seat. > > > Adlfinger says that the KR 25-E is now being produced by French velomobile > company iDMOOVE [ > http://idmoove.com/ > ], although we're still waiting to hear back regarding pricing and > availability. A larger and faster KR 45-E model is in the works, along with > the pure-electric KR 200. > [© newatlas.com] > ... > https://www.epowerforum.de/forum/threads/messerschmitt-kr-25-flitzer.660/ > messerschmitt-kr-25 forum > ... > https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/09/nobe-100-electric-car-is-a-three-wheeled-dollop-of-retro-cuteness/ > Nobe 100 Electric Car Is A Three-Wheeled Dollop Of Retro Cuteness > June 9th, 2018 ... > https://cleantechnica.com/files/2018/06/Nobe-100-1.jpg > ... > https://www.google.com/search?q=Messerschmitt+KR200+electric > search on Messerschmitt KR200 electric > > > + (niro causing soul delays) > https://www.wardsauto.com/alternative-propulsion/want-kia-soul-ev-be-prepared-wait-longer > Want a Kia Soul EV? Be Prepared to Wait Longer > May 08, 2019 “Soul EV will probably be (coming to the U.S.) next year,” > Michael Cole, chief ... The battery-electric version of the Niro arriving > this month at Kia U.S. dealers has ... > https://www.wardsauto.com/sites/wardsauto.com/files/styles/article_featured_standard/public/14706_2020_Soul_EV.jpg?itok=ryV2ijFF > > > > > For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: > http://evdl.org/archive/ > > >
[EVDL] Tesla-S Update Prompted by Hong_Kong.cn Parking Lot Fire
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/05/tesla-model-s-catches-fire-in-hong-kong-parking-lot-prompting-battery-update/
Tesla Model S Catches Fire In Hong Kong Parking Lot Prompting Battery Update
May 16, 2019 Brad Anderson
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A Tesla Model S reportedly caught fire in a parking lot in Hong Kong on
Sunday and the car manufacturer has already rolled out an over-the-air
battery software update to try and prevent similar incidents in the future.
Reuters reports that the Model S 85 was parked in the city’s San Po Kong
District for roughly 30 minutes before it caught fire. Three explosions were
reportedly captured on CCTV footage and the car was not plugged in at the
time of the fire.
Local authorities are said to be investigating the case but that hasn’t
stopped Tesla itself getting the jump and already taking action, Tech Crunch
reports.
On Tuesday, the Calfironian electric car manufacturer announced that it is
introducing a software update to change battery charge and thermal
management settings in the Model S and Model X. Tesla has yet to determine
the cause of the fire in Hong Kong and doesn’t yet know if there are any
issues with the battery pack.
“We currently have well over half a million vehicles on the road, which is
more than double the number that we had at the beginning of last year, and
Tesla’s team of battery experts uses that data to thoroughly investigate
incidents that occur and understand the root cause,” the company said in a
statement. “Although fire incidents involving Tesla vehicles are already
extremely rare and our cars are 10 times less likely to experience a fire
than a gas car, we believe the right number of incidents to aspire to is
zero.”
“As we continue our investigation of the root cause, out of an abundance of
caution, we are revising charge and thermal management settings on Model S
and Model X vehicles via an over-the-air software update that will begin
rolling out today, to help further protect the battery and improve battery
longevity,” Tesla confirmed.
The update will not be made available to the Tesla Model 3.
The fire in Hong Kong comes just a few weeks after a Model S was filmed
exploding while parked in a Shanghai parking lot.
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Tesla Fires Spur Software Update, But Here's Why You Needn't Panic
Nothing hit them, at least while they were parked. So how does an inert
electric car suddenly experience a lithium-ion
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Sell oil, buy electric
2019-05-16 It was summed up in one phrase – sell oil, buy electric vehicles
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20190519
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-spied-with-camo-Bolt-EUV-tp4693583.html
EVLN: (spied with camo) Bolt EUV
Chevy Bolt EUV electric crossover caught in the wild
May 17th 2019 The Chevy Bolt EV has been kicking around for a couple years
now, but GM has sold enough EVs to start the scale-down on federal tax
credits ... looks more like a legitimate crossover than the Bolt ...
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Rivian-pr-180kWh-e-truck-with-a-pull-out-kitchen-tp4693584.html
EVLN: (Rivian pr) 180kWh e-truck with a pull-out kitchen
Rivian debuts a pull-out kitchen for its electric pickup truck
2019/05/17 It seems Rivian wants to make its vehicles the center of an
ecosystem of add-ons. The company already revealed racks, vehicle-mounted
tents and ... more camping and outdoor gear ...
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How much rooftop solar do you need to charge your EV, too?
9 May 2019 So you've got rooftop solar, and you've got an electric vehicle.
... want to charge your car, the battery size of your EV, and how much you
drive around every day ...
(millertechnology.com underground EVs)
ELECTRIC VEHICLES: Miller Technology ‘charges’ into Bauma with RELAY
May 14, 2019 NORTH BAY, ONT – Miller Technology recently showcased the
RELAY, their fully electric, utility and support vehicle for underground
mining and tunneling, ...
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https://www.kcra.com/article/sacramento-state-student-capital-tuk-tuk-business/27368540
Sacramento State student launches tuk-tuk business
May 5, 2019 Her business is called Capital Tuk-Tuk, and tours through
Sacramento-CA ... Our tuks are 100% electric, so we are really excited
about that.” ... (video flash)
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Lucky Tuk-Tuk rickshaws come to San Francisco
May 8, 2019 Lucky Tuk-Tuk is the latest way to get around the city by the
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[EVDL] EVLN: (Rivian pr) 180kWh e-truck with a pull-out kitchen
https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/17/rivian-debuts-a-pull-out-kitchen-for-its-electric-pickup-trick/
Rivian debuts a pull-out kitchen for its electric pickup truck
2019/05/17 Matt Burns
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Sometimes you need scrambled eggs. And with that thought, today at the
Overland Expo in Flagstaff, AZ, Rivian announced a major accessory for its
electric pickup: A camp kitchen. The unit slides out from the Rivian R1T’s
so-called gear tunnel that lives between the bed and cab. The kitchen
includes storage and a stove that’s powered by the R1T’s 180kWh battery
pack.
This kitchen unit is the first significant concept Rivian has unveiled for
the pickup’s unusual gear tunnel. This space provides another locked storage
compartment for the pickup — but why have it all, many asked when it was
revealed? And now, with this kitchen unit, Rivian is responding to the
questions. It seems Rivian wants to make its vehicles the center of an
ecosystem of add-ons. The company already revealed racks, vehicle-mounted
tents and even a flashlight that hides in the side of the driver’s door.
Expect more camping and outdoor gear as Rivian cements its brand image
around adventurers.
Rivian is positioning its products for a particular lifestyle. Think
Patagonia-wearing, Range Rover-driving, outdoorsy types or at least those
who aspire to have that image. It’s a smart play, and so far, Rivian has
stayed true to this image. All of its advertisements, social media posts,
and appearances make it clear that Rivian is carefully aligning its brand
image.
Trucks and SUVs are generally marketed to workman and families. TV
commercials feature dusty men hauling bails of hay and women unloading
groceries and closing the rear tailgate with her foot. But not Rivian.
So far Rivian has shown its products in the backwoods, running trails and
sitting next to campfires. The people in the commercials are on an
adventure, wearing coats by The North Face and sleeping in REI tents. With
the kitchen from today’s announcements, they can pull a kitchen out of their
pickup and make some coffee.
Rivian tells TechCrunch this is just a concept, but the company intends to
bring this unit to production. There are likely to be other units for the
gear tunnel. I, for one, would love to have a slide-out dog washing and
drying station because there’s nothing worse than putting a muddy dog in a
truck.
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Rivian R1T Electric Camper Truck Debuts At Overland Expo [UPDATE]
May 17, 2019 It's built into the truck's gear tunnel at the front of the
bed just behind the cab, and since the Rivian R1T is a fully electric
vehicle, the stove draws power from the ...
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[EVDL] EVLN: (spied with camo) Bolt EUV
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/chevy-bolt-euv-electric-crossover-spy-photos/
Chevy Bolt EUV electric crossover caught in the wild
May 17th 2019 John Beltz Snyder
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Looks more like a CUV than the current Bolt
The Chevy Bolt EV has been kicking around for a couple years now, but GM has
sold enough EVs to start the scale-down on federal tax credits — and the
car's price hasn't changed. We haven't seen the most recent sales figures,
as GM now reports quarterly, but Bolt sales have been in a slow but fairly
steady decline. GM, though, is committed to EVs, and has shown an electric
Cadillac concept and confirmed an electric pickup. It has also said it will
build another crossover alongside the Bolt, which is rumored to be called
the Bolt EUV (as a trademark dug up by GM Authority could suggest), and is
almost certainly what you see in the photos caught by our spy photographer,
above.
This definitely looks more like a legitimate crossover than the Bolt (which
Chevy also, questionably, refers to as a crossover), but beyond its more
upright stance, it's hard to tell what this thing actually looks like under
that thick cladding and camouflage. We expect it to be larger than the
current Bolt, but it's hard to tell by how much until some of the camo comes
off. We can see that there's no exhaust, and the video below confirms it
runs silently as expected for an electric car.
GM is developing a new BEV platform, called BEV3, but meanwhile plans to use
the current Bolt's BEV2 platform for two new crossovers, as stated in a
presentation in late 2017. GM is also investing big bucks in its Lake Orion
plant to build at least one of those. Connecting the dots, this could very
well be the EV we're seeing here. It'll be interesting to see if this ends
up cannibalizing sales of the original Bolt. We wouldn't be surprised if GM
has thought the same thing, and offers this as a half-step to a replacement
until it starts building EVs on its BEV3 platform in coming years. We don't
have official word yet, but based on intel and GM's general timeline, we
could likely see a production version of the vehicle you see in these spy
photos come late next year.
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First Spy Shots Of Upcoming Chevy Bolt EUV Surface
May 17, 2019 The Bolt EV features a 60 kWh lithium-ion battery pack and a
front mounted permanent magnet electric motor that is rated at 200
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Re: [EVDL] Formally complain to Nissan If you want an e-NV200 in North America.
Willie via EV wrote: On 5/18/19 12:38 PM, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote: drag and increased energy consumption (and reduced range). Simply raising a vehicle increases frontal area by virtue of the tires being more exposed. I believe the under car air speed is also increased. Or, maybe increased turbulence. Anyway, I think it is worse than just exposing more tire. I think that is true. Keeping the car low is a way to reduce the amount of air and turbulence underneath. Of course, a smooth bottom would help; but that costs too much. Big fat tires with lots of tread have lots of wind resistance. And, the tops of the tires are moving forward at *double* the speed of the car! Paul MacReady (of Aerovironment) talked a lot about auto aerodynamics when he was designing the Impact (aka GM EV1). Things I recall: - Aero testing is in wind tunnels, with car and tires not moving. - The roughness of the bottom of the car is usually ignored. - Spinning tires have much more drag than stationary ones. - Most cars are more aerodynamic in reverse. So, he designed the EV1 with a smooth bottom, with wheel wells optimized as "ducts" to minimize turbulence, and a shape that actually *was* aerodynamic (instead of what some stylist thinks will "look" aerodynamic). If you need more ground clearance sometimes, maybe adjustable air bags are an answer? -- Fools ignore complexity. Pragmatists suffer it. The wise avoid it. Geniuses remove it. -- Alan Perlis, "Epigrams on Programming" -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] e-nv300: ... tell Nissan you want e-NV200 4sale in N.America 800-647-7261 opt7
A rep’s comment from 2014 is hardly evidence in 2019 that would make such a
criticism fair.
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> On May 17, 2019, at 6:57 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
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> % In 2014, at the Silicon Valley NDEW EVent, nissan had an e-nv200 EV on
> display
> http://brucedp14.altervista.org/eaasvr14/
> (scroll a down 1/3 of the page)
> http://brucedp14.altervista.org/eaasvr14/eaasvr14-20140920-brucedp-008-l.jpg
>
> The nissan rep there, said nissan is not interested in selling the e-nv200
> in N. America. He didn't know their e-nv200 sells well in Europe and is for
> sale in Asia. Nor did he know that e-nv200 vans were in use as taxis in NYC
> (see below).
>
> I liked the e-nv200, but it just barely fit my needs (to be able carry an
> e-mobility cart in the rear of a cargo trim). If nissan sold & supported the
> larger e-nv300
> https://www.google.com/search?q=nissan+nv300+electric
> that would a better fit for my needs.
>
> But where nissan is missing a business opportunity, later other EV companies
> will step in and sell me either an e-van or e-truck that will fit my needs.
>
> Below are links to stories showing Nisan is ok with good pr, but not with
> follow-through to sell their e-van in N.America. Nissan sells where the
> market is profitable. nissan must not think the u.s. e-van market is worth
> their effort/trouble.
> %
>
>
> https://www.adventure-journal.com/2018/07/theres-another-electric-camper-van-no-not-coming-united-states/
> Here’s Another Electric Camper Van That’s Not Coming to the United States
> Jul 31, 2018 - First VW teased, and now Nissan, which has announced two new
> ... The e-NV200 and NV300 made their debut last month at the Madrid Motor
> ...
> https://www.adventure-journal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/nissan-camper-vans-in-spain-photo-01-1200x675.jpg
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> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-3-EVs-U-S-A-Can-t-Have-gt-Zoe-env200-Bluesummer-td4676605.html
> EVLN: 3 EVs U.S.A. Can’t Have> Zoe,env200,Bluesummer
> Jul 03, 2015
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> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Nissan-s-e-NV200-electric-vans-being-used-as-NYC-taxicabs-tp4655363.html
> EVLN: Nissan’s e-NV200 electric vans being used as NYC taxicabs
> A Nissan e-NV200 van ] If Nissan’s new electric taxicabs are to pass muster
> with the city of New York, officials will have to settle a couple of
> controversial issues first. One has to do with charging standards and
> whether the Big Apple will end up using...
> Jun 04, 2012
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> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-NV-200-NYC-Taxi-of-Tomorrow-Program-video-tp4661711.html
> EVLN: NV-200 NYC Taxi of Tomorrow Program (video)
> ... tested prior to its Fall 2013 launch. The NYC Taxi of Tomorrow program
> has taken a big step closer to fruition with a prototype Nissan NV-200 based
> taxi now in operation on New York City streets. The Taxi of Tomorrow program
> is NY City's attempt to re-envision the taxicab and the whole taxi...
> Mar 07, 2013
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> https://www.mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/msg15410.html
> EVLN: Leaf& e-NV200 EV Taxis Pass The Three Million Mile Mark In UK (v)
> 23 Jan 2016
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> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/nyregion/nissan-taxi-requirement-reversed.html
> It Was Billed as the ‘Taxi of Tomorrow.’ Tomorrow Didn’t Last Long
> June 12, 2018 ... “There hasn’t been a worse car for the taxi industry than
> the NV200,” he said. “It’s not easy for older people to get into.
> Mechanically it’s one of the worst made cars I’ve ever owned.” ...
> https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/13/nyregion/13taxi-02/merlin_139288551_c5edfd2a-8c2b-4ee7-88b8-7b840030f7e3-jumbo.jpg
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Re: [EVDL] Formally complain to Nissan If you want an e-NV200 in North America.
On 5/18/19 12:38 PM, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote: drag and increased energy consumption (and reduced range). Simply raising a vehicle increases frontal area by virtue of the tires being more exposed. I believe the under car air speed is also increased. Or, maybe increased turbulence. Anyway, I think it is worse than just exposing more tire. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Formally complain to Nissan If you want an e-NV200 in North America.
>have enough ground clearance for forest service roads (can the Bolt suspension be modified without compromising range?) I'd expect any vehicle modification that increases the frontal area of a vehicle, while holding all other factors constant, to result in increased drag and increased energy consumption (and reduced range). Simply raising a vehicle increases frontal area by virtue of the tires being more exposed. The efficiency differences are magnified at higher speeds. At low speeds it may be hard to notice a difference. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190518/3bcfad65/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Formally complain to Nissan If you want an e-NV200 in North America.
Do you have a suggestion on how to contact them? I found their customer support form, but it won't submit because there isn't a nissan dealer in Seattle. Also it's limited to 300 chars which doesn't allow saying much. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Peri Hartman" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 18-May-19 7:34:06 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Formally complain to Nissan If you want an e-NV200 in North America. This is pretty close to something I would buy. I see it's available for 37100 euro in france, where it probably could be purchased and brought to the US (I know this once was possible). https://www.nissan.fr/vehicules/neufs/env200-evalia.html Some people will balk at this, but my limiting factor is I need more range - about 250 miles. I would like to own just one vehicle that I can take hiking, skiing, and haul building materials, etc. These are activities where it is not practical to rent a vehicle. Otherwise I would need two vehicles, one for hauling things locally and one for longer distances. But even with two vehicles, there isn't currently anything affordable that will go 250 miles on a charge and have enough ground clearance for forest service roads (can the Bolt suspension be modified without compromising range?). The e-nv200 would work really well, I think. I'll let them know. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Lawrence Rhodes" Sent: 17-May-19 1:40:21 PM Subject: [EVDL] Formally complain to Nissan If you want an e-NV200 in North America. 800.647.7261 option 7. This is where you can call Monday through Friday to lodge any kind of complaint. While the e-NV200 is on the website and in Europe it is not for N. America. https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/future-concept/e-nv200-zero-emissions-small-van.html Here it is but not available. Such a shame. This is the link where you can see the concept. If you complain formally to Nissan maybe they will bring this useful vehicle to our shores. Lawrence Rhodes ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190518/4bb02840/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Formally complain to Nissan If you want an e-NV200 in North America.
This is pretty close to something I would buy. I see it's available for 37100 euro in france, where it probably could be purchased and brought to the US (I know this once was possible). https://www.nissan.fr/vehicules/neufs/env200-evalia.html Some people will balk at this, but my limiting factor is I need more range - about 250 miles. I would like to own just one vehicle that I can take hiking, skiing, and haul building materials, etc. These are activities where it is not practical to rent a vehicle. Otherwise I would need two vehicles, one for hauling things locally and one for longer distances. But even with two vehicles, there isn't currently anything affordable that will go 250 miles on a charge and have enough ground clearance for forest service roads (can the Bolt suspension be modified without compromising range?). The e-nv200 would work really well, I think. I'll let them know. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Lawrence Rhodes" Sent: 17-May-19 1:40:21 PM Subject: [EVDL] Formally complain to Nissan If you want an e-NV200 in North America. 800.647.7261 option 7. This is where you can call Monday through Friday to lodge any kind of complaint. While the e-NV200 is on the website and in Europe it is not for N. America. https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/future-concept/e-nv200-zero-emissions-small-van.html Here it is but not available. Such a shame. This is the link where you can see the concept. If you complain formally to Nissan maybe they will bring this useful vehicle to our shores. Lawrence Rhodes ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190518/debf264e/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] e-nv300: ... tell Nissan you want e-NV200 4sale in N.America 800-647-7261 opt7
On 17 May 2019 at 20:57, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The nissan rep there, said nissan is not interested in selling the e-nv200 in > N. America. That's not so surprising. IMO, the brightest future of production EVs is in Western Europe and Asia. In Europe, 4 nations have already stated that they plan to reduce, restrict, or eliminate ICEVs in favor of EVs by 2025, 2030, or 2040. Some have fairly aggressive subsidy or incentive programs. (Certain oil-wealthy people in the US don't approve of our EV tax credit. Anybody want to place a bet on how much longer it'll last?) China has announced a future ICEV ban, though I don't think they've set a deadline; someone please correct me if that's wrong. China is the elephant in the GM boardroom, an emerging vehicle market growth area for them and all the other major automakers. For better or worse, unlike CARB in the 1990s, China's government doesn't blink. You do it their way, or you don't do business in China. So China and part of Europe will most likely require EVs. Last I heard, California might; maybe someone who's been following that can update me. Or maybe congress or the EPA will smack CARB down, take away their legal right to require stricter emissions standards. The automakers will build EVs for EV markets. If we're lucky, the rest of us will get what's left over, unless they can sell it more profitably elsewhere. That's probably not all bad, though. It might open the gates to serious competition from second- and third-tier automakers. The fuel crunch of the early 1970s gave Japanese automakers and their small, high-MPG cars a solid foothold in the US. This time, maybe we'll get to see what Chinese and/or Indian automakers can do with EVs. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
