Re: [EVDL] oil shorting/attacking Tesla, Rickard’s evtv: ... Tesla conspiracy

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
1. Except that there no evidence of a conspiracy, and my explanation is normal operation. I’ve also acknowledged a conspiracy possibility, but without evidence, it’s just a good story. 2. I agree. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Aug 20, 2019, at 1:09 PM, EVDL Administrator

Re: [EVDL] 3whl diy EV.uk> plastic-shelled, balsa-wood, duct-tape -signed

2019-08-20 Thread Gail Lucas via EV
On 8/20/2019 5:48 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 20 Aug 2019 at 18:37, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Made out of balsa wood and duct tape, officers described the electric vehicle as the most ‘unusual’ they’ve had to stop in 26 years. I've heard police officers described as being made

Re: [EVDL] 3whl diy EV.uk> plastic-shelled, balsa-wood, duct-tape -signed

2019-08-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Aug 2019 at 18:37, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Made out of balsa wood and duct tape, officers described the electric > vehicle as the most ~unusualTM theyTMve had to stop in 26 years. I've heard police officers described as being made from some rude and unpleasant substances, but this is

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
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[EVDL] 3whl diy EV.uk> plastic-shelled, balsa-wood, duct-tape -signed

2019-08-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/20/police-stop-homemade-car-made-balsa-wood-duct-tape-10599191/ Police stop homemade car made out of balsa wood and duct tape 20 Aug 2019 Basit Mahmood [images / Anglia Press Agency

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Willie via EV
On 8/20/19 5:56 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: On 8/20/19 4:03 PM, Willie via EV wrote: I'm enamored of the Enphase grid ties; I have a fair amount of experience with them.  I've seen a lot of what I refer to as "cheap chinese" inverters work poorly, run hot, fail.  The Enphases are near

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Willie via EV
On 8/20/19 4:12 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: The idea of using an EV for backup power is eminently sensible. A 50/60Hz, 100/120/240v (depending on where the car is sold) inverter operating from the traction battery should be a factory option on every EV, IMO. Agreed! I can't cite

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
le URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190820/35fe73b8/attachment.key> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)

[EVDL] Another wave of dumped.cn low-quality/rejected/blem batteries, PVs coming @discount

2019-08-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/low-quality-chinese-batteries-could-slow-down-india-s-ev-drive-1566328603581.html Low-quality Chinese batteries could slow down India’s EV drive 21 Aug 2019 Utpal Bhaskar [image

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
h 24v; I'm seeking an "upverter" with adjustable output. >> >> I haven't found specifications of the capacities of DC-DCs on various >> EVs. I suspect they will all supply at least 1 kw. >> >> Thanks! >> ____

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread paul dove via EV
A power wall is only 14KWh Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Willie via EV wrote: > > > > On 8/20/19 1:20 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > >>> Also, the modularity. Not enough power? Just add another EV. >> There you go. Buy a second Tesla. :-) Connect their two 12v DC/DCs

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Aug 2019 at 16:02, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > So 2.5 kW for a well pump seems large?, But then, I don't have one. Most well pumps suck down enormous starting power. I have a 1/2hp shallow well pump, and my 2.5kw Statpower Prowatt struggles mightily when that pump starts. The idea

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
verter" with adjustable output. >> >> I haven't found specifications of the capacities of DC-DCs on various >> EVs. I suspect they will all supply at least 1 kw. >> >> Thanks! >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.

Re: [EVDL] oil shorting/attacking Tesla, Rickard’s evtv: ... Tesla conspiracy

2019-08-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Aug 2019 at 9:26, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > he does point out an issue that I think helps make the company ripe for > short sellers - Musk overpromises, and then doesn't deliver what he > promises. (Yes, what he has delivered has been phenomenal, but that's > neither here nor there.)

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Willie via EV
On 8/20/19 1:02 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: For a 1 kW home backup solution, it would probably be better to just use a 12volt input inverter so your entire system could be 12v. There are a lot of 1-2kw inverters that operate on 12v input. 24 or 48v input isn't really necessary until you get

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Willie via EV
On 8/20/19 1:20 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Also, the modularity. Not enough power? Just add another EV. There you go. Buy a second Tesla. :-) Connect their two 12v DC/DCs in series. :-) Semi-obvious jest. But... I don't see that as impossible. Actually, my first choice of an EV

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla conspiracy

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
I think you are wrong on Musk’s behavior, but don’t really care to argue it. I know much shorts can hurt a company’s stock price, and myself own stock where the number of shorts have gone off into the stratosphere.(above even the 34% that you say never happens). That all needs to go into any

Re: [EVDL] oil shorting/attacking Tesla, Rickard’s evtv: ... Tesla conspiracy

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
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Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
From: Willie via EV >> How long do you need that 1kw of power? If short-term, how about two 12v >> batteries in series? >100% duty cycle. I'm exploring using Enphase M215 micro inverters >powered from an EV's 12v DC-DC following this scheme:

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
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Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Willie via EV
On 8/20/19 12:17 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: From: Willie via EV Subject: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters Can anyone suggest? Looking for 1kw or larger. Seems like something you would be found for long-haul truckers. Many of their accessories are 24vdc, but some truck only

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

2019-08-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
From: Willie via EV >Subject: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters >Can anyone suggest? Looking for 1kw or larger. Seems like something you would be found for long-haul truckers. Many of their accessories are 24vdc, but some truck only have 12v systems. How long do you need that 1kw

Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Especially in the >> hinterlands. >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Please discu

Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
EA claims that they’ve done a detailed business case analysis on all of their investments, or at least their management said so on a call I was on with them. Then again, I heard stories about some of their investments, where they just tossed them in at the last minute, clearly without any real

Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?

2019-08-20 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
KWh. Assuming cost of $0.10 a KWh that > would take two years to get back the investment with no maintenance costs. > >>>> > >>>> Those are big if's. but then it would be $25k a year income. I've > never seen chargers that busy around here but maybe in Calif

Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Throwback to the early 1900s! I think that this would really cut total cost of BEV infrastructure, particularly in new development. It also seems relatively simple. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Aug 20, 2019, at 3:58 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: > > I still say put in

Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?

2019-08-20 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?

2019-08-20 Thread Willie via EV
On 8/20/19 5:58 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: I still say put in 110v outlets on all the curbs like up north. No need for an EVSE at all. I was very pleasantly surprised on a trip to Alberta and there abouts. I found "Destination" charging as far north as Fort St John. And charged at two

Re: [EVDL] oil shorting/attacking Tesla, Rickard’s evtv: ... Tesla conspiracy

2019-08-20 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?

2019-08-20 Thread paul dove via EV
Tesla charges idle fees by the hour when charge is complete Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2019, at 9:23 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > >> On 19 Aug 2019 at 23:12, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: >> >> Third, if someone goes past about 80% charge, the trickle charge should >> start

Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?

2019-08-20 Thread paul dove via EV
I still say put in 110v outlets on all the curbs like up north. No need for an EVSE at all. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2019, at 9:00 PM, Brandon Hines via EV wrote: > > I have always thought that one of the biggest problems with EVs is that it is > difficult to make charging

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla conspiracy

2019-08-20 Thread paul dove via EV
/07d184e0/attachment.html> > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yah