[EVDL] Tesla .de gigafactory resumes> move wildlife, use less water
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Germany-stops-Tesla-s-Gigafactory-tp4696453.html http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/more-Tesla-de-Gigafactory-tp4696454.html ] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-gets-ahead-resume-clearing-213722173.html Tesla Gets Go-Ahead to Resume Clearing Forest in Germany February 20, 2020 Karin Matussek, Stefan Nicola Bloomberg [image https://media.zenfs.com/en/bloomberg_markets_842/7fdd06a7a910dc2bc4ba36194fb97810 ] (Bloomberg) -- Tesla Inc. has overcome a legal roadblock standing in the way of Elon Musk’s plan to build an electric-car factory in Germany. A Berlin-Brandenburg court on Thursday ruled that Tesla can resume cutting down trees at a forest site in the small town of Gruenheide to make way for its first assembly plant in Europe. That puts the U.S. carmaker on track to start construction before the start of a crucial breeding period for local wildlife in March. The court found that local authorities didn’t violate laws when they allowed work on the factory to start, throwing out a complaint by Gruene Liga Brandenburg, an environmental group that claimed Tesla and local authorities were sidestepping regulations to rush the project. The decision is a boon to Tesla’s ambitious timetable to have the plant up and running by the middle of next year. The company plans to eventually produce as many as 500,000 cars a year at the site, employing 12,000 people and posing a serious challenge to Volkswagen AG, Daimler AG and BMW AG. Musk, Tesla’s chief executive officer, recently tried to ease local concerns about water usage at the plant, which would border a nature reserve. Local officials had warned that construction could be delayed by six to nine months if the forest isn’t cleared by mid-March. Tesla has already cut down two-thirds of the trees and should be able to fell the remainder in time. Brandenburg’s environment ministry this month gave Tesla a preliminary green light to start cutting down trees in an area equivalent to 100 soccer fields ahead of granting final approval. The court stopped the process with an injunction on Feb. 15. By late Thursday, the appeals court ruled that legal requirements to allow early construction were met. Gruene Liga has warned that Tesla’s plant could threaten the region’s water supply and overburden local transport infrastructure. The group argued that authorities shouldn’t have allowed the forest to start being cleared until after March 5, the deadline set for environmental groups to comment on the project. Local officials argue the site is an inferior pine forest planted to be harvested in the first place. The planned factory is of “great significance” to climate change prevention and one of the most important industrial investments in eastern Germany “in a long time,” Economy Minister Peter Altmaier told German publisher Funke Mediengruppe this week. The factory will be designed with “sustainability and the environment in mind,” Musk said last month on Twitter, adding Tesla will plant three new trees for every one cut. The company still needs final approval for the project from authorities in the state of Brandenburg. Tesla will also have to scare off or relocate wolves, bats, snakes, ants and lizards until construction is over. Under German regulations, the project must consider the breeding period for local wildlife in spring. [© yahoo.com] ... https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+germany+water search on tesla germany water ... https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+germany+bats search on tesla germany bats ... https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-wants-to-use-less-water-at-gigafactory-4-than-planned Tesla wants to use less water at Gigafactory 4 than planned, says BUND January 24, 2020 BUND (Bund für Umwelt und Naturschutz Deutschland) works at all levels: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1220938613862436865 there are more than 2000 voluntary BUND groups in the Germany that deal with ... https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0173/8204/7844/files/2_4963399c-5e91-4bcd-b8ef-6d92207895c2_grande.jpg + https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/19/germans-divided-plans-tesla-electric-car-factory-environmentalists-tree-felling Germans divided over plans for Tesla electric car factory. 16 Feb 2020 ... German court orders Tesla to stop felling trees for Gigafactory ... Logs are piled up using a tree excavator at the site. About 92 hectares of pine trees must be cleared to make way for the factory ... https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/c8ea2f3f8ca986d1e67d7f3f6de5d822d5fa55f4/0_179_4838_2904/master/4838.jpg?width=620=85=format=max=ef36800153baa760b6f4cd0c6caea9eb For EVLN EV-newswire posts view: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ https://mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/maillist.html {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE:
[EVDL] Cobalt-free batteries
Very important breakthrough, if true that Tesla is doing this: https://www-inverse-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.inverse.com/innovation/we-could-run-out-of-materials-for-building-electric-car-batteries/amp - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Both Taycan burnt-crisp> no-injures (v)
I have to disagree. Is it even a huge surprise? Yes, you would hope that it would never happen, but this is clearly part of the growing pains of a massively growing industry. But bad news for enthusiasts? That overstates it’s impact on the industry. It’s a sign of the growing industry, the need to improve the technology, and manage its risks. Bad incident, but not necessarily impactful to enthusiasts. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:08 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: > > That is not good news for EV enthusiasts. Sorry to hear that > > Who thinks it was the wiring in the garage rather than the car? > >On Thursday, February 20, 2020, 7:17:40 AM CST, evln via EV > wrote: > > > > https://gulfnews.com/auto/news/brand-new-taycan-porsches-first-electric-vehicle-goes-up-in-flames---destroys-garage-it-was-parked-in-too-1.1582186583616 > Brand new Taycan, Porsche's first electric vehicle, goes up in flames - > destroys garage it was parked in too... > February 20, 2020 Imran Malik > > [video > https://youtu.be/dJ-inHgc8-E > Porsche Taycan Fire and Explosion in a Florida Garage > ] > > A brand-new Taycan, Porsche’s first electric vehicle, caught fire and was > burnt to a crisp in Florida while it was parked in a residential garage. > > The fire totally gutted the EV and also caused thousands of dollars in > damages to the garage where it was parked overnight - but fortunately there > were no reported injuries. A full investigation is currently ongoing. > > “Late on the 16th of February, we were made aware of an incident at a > residential address where one of our cars was parked overnight. We are > investigating and we remain ready to assist if called upon. We are relieved > to hear that no one was harmed in this incident, and that it’s too early to > speculate on the cause until the investigation has concluded,” read a > statement from Porsche. > > At this point in time, it is not clear how the sports saloon caught fire – > but it is the first reported incident involving Porsche’s first electric > car. > > However, this isn’t the first EV to catch fire; several high-profile models > have gone up in smoke including a Jaguar I-Pace, Hyundai Kona EV, and a > Tesla Model S while Audi recalled a few hundred E-Trons due to faulty > batteries. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Both Taycan burnt-crisp> no-injures (v)
On 2/20/20 7:24 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: That is not good news for EV enthusiasts. Sorry to hear that Who thinks it was the wiring in the garage rather than the car? It should eventually be obvious and be revealed whether garage wiring or car was the source. I eagerly await a report. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] CommutaVan/Postal trucks for sale
NOT BY ME! Just forwarding a post from Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/791034301382135/ Yeah, FaceBook posting. 5 of them for $100 ea. Ada, OK. -- Worlds only All Electric F-250 truck! http://john.casadelgato.com/Electric-Vehicles/1995-Ford-F-250 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Both Taycan burnt-crisp> no-injures (v)
in the garage of a Florida home on February 16. Thankfully, no one was injured. (+more) + (Fire spurred EV-hater replies to bash electric cars) https://in.mashable.com/tech/11586/its-not-just-electric-vehicles-gas-cars-catch-on-fire-too It's Not Just Electric Vehicles. Gas Cars Catch On Fire, Too! 2020-02-20 .. reignited misplaced fears that electric vehicles are prone to bursting into flames ... it's important to understand that ICE also burst into flames ... 11 times more likely ... 5,020 gas station fires per year from 2004 to 2008 ... fires aren't just a problem for electric vehicles ... https://sm.mashable.com/t/mashable_in/feature/i/its-not-ju/its-not-just-electric-vehicles-gas-cars-catch-on-fire-too_umzj.960.jpg For EVLN EV-newswire posts view: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ https://mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/maillist.html {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200220/72fa3fe3/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Both Taycan burnt-crisp> no-injures (v)
https://gulfnews.com/auto/news/brand-new-taycan-porsches-first-electric-vehicle-goes-up-in-flames---destroys-garage-it-was-parked-in-too-1.1582186583616 Brand new Taycan, Porsche's first electric vehicle, goes up in flames - destroys garage it was parked in too... February 20, 2020 Imran Malik [video https://youtu.be/dJ-inHgc8-E Porsche Taycan Fire and Explosion in a Florida Garage ] A brand-new Taycan, Porsche’s first electric vehicle, caught fire and was burnt to a crisp in Florida while it was parked in a residential garage. The fire totally gutted the EV and also caused thousands of dollars in damages to the garage where it was parked overnight - but fortunately there were no reported injuries. A full investigation is currently ongoing. “Late on the 16th of February, we were made aware of an incident at a residential address where one of our cars was parked overnight. We are investigating and we remain ready to assist if called upon. We are relieved to hear that no one was harmed in this incident, and that it’s too early to speculate on the cause until the investigation has concluded,” read a statement from Porsche. At this point in time, it is not clear how the sports saloon caught fire – but it is the first reported incident involving Porsche’s first electric car. However, this isn’t the first EV to catch fire; several high-profile models have gone up in smoke including a Jaguar I-Pace, Hyundai Kona EV, and a Tesla Model S while Audi recalled a few hundred E-Trons due to faulty batteries. [© gulfnews.com] https://www.google.com/search?q=Taycan+fire+Florida search on Taycan fire Florida Porsche Taycan caught on fire — burning down a garage in Florida Electrek 2 days ago Porsche Taycan Catches Fire and Burns to a Crisp in Owner's Garage Interesting Engineering 23 hours ago A Porsche Taycan Just Confirmed That EVs Can Go Up in Flames Too Robb Report 1 day ago Porsche Taycan Electric Vehicle Fire in Florida Garage MotorTrend 1 day ago Porsche Taycan EV Goes up in Flames in Florida Garage Car and Driver 1 day ago Electric Porsche Taycan catches fire while parked overnight in garage, company confirms CNBC.com 1 day ago An Electric Porsche Taycan Caught Fire In A Florida Garage And The Aftermath Looks Brutal Jalopnik 1 day ago Breaking: Porsche Taycan Catches Fire And Nobody Knows Why CarBuzz 1 day ago Porsche Confirms A Taycan Blew Up In A Florida Garage Motor1.com 1 day ago Porsche Taycan catches fire in Florida - The Verge www.theverge.com › porsche-taycan-electric-ev-fire-florida 2 days ago - A Taycan EV caught fire in Florida on Sunday, Porsche confirmed to The Verge. No one was harmed, and the cause is unknown. It's the only ... Porsche Taycan Goes up in Flames in Florida Garage www.caranddriver.com › news › porsche-taycan-ev-fire-garage-florida 2 days ago - We don't know a lot, but we do know that one of the first Porsche Taycan EVs to make its way into an owner's hands has caught fire in a garage. Porsche Taycan Catches Fire in Florida Garage - MotorTrend www.motortrend.com › porsche-taycan-ev-sedan-fire-info-photos 2 days ago - A Porsche Taycan electric sedan reportedly caught fire in a Florida garage, and Porsche is very much aware of the incident. An Electric Porsche Taycan Caught Fire In A Florida Garage ... jalopnik.com › an-electric-porsche-taycan-caught-fire-in-a-florida-gar... 2 days ago - On Sunday, one of only 130-ish Porsche Taycans in the U.S. burst flames in a Florida garage, EV-focused car website Electrek reports. UPDATE: Porsche Admits Taycan Burned Down; Video In ... insideevs.com › Porsche › Taycan › News › Weird 2 days ago Porsche has confirmed that a Taycan has caught fire, a fact which had been ... One Of The First Porsche ... Porsche Taycan caught on fire — burning down a garage in ... electrek.co › 2020/02/17 › porsche-taycan-fire-burning-garage-florida 3 days ago - A Porsche Taycan electric car caught on fire at a residence in Florida yesterday, leading to significant damage to the house and a complete ... A Porsche Taycan Burned Down In Florida | CleanTechnica cleantechnica.com › 2020/02/18 › a-porsche-taycan-exploded-in-flori... 2 days ago - There is video of a burnt out Porsche Taycan circulating around Twitter ... In fact, there have even been stories where different cars catch fire ... Electric Porsche Taycan catches fire in garage, company ... www.cnbc.com › 2020/02/18 › electric-porsche-taycan-catches-fire-in... 2 days ago - An electric Porsche Taycan caught fire in a Florida residential garage, the company confirmed Tuesday. A Porsche Taycan Just Confirmed That EVs Can Go Up in ... robbreport.com › porsche-electric-taycan-catches-fire-florida-2899824 2 days ago - A Porsche Taycan was devoured by a fire while it was parked in the garage of a Florida home on February 16. Thankfully, no one was injured. (+more) + (Fire spurred EV-hater replies to bash electric cars)