[EVDL] 3people rescued from inside after EV power failure

2020-05-12 Thread evln via EV
https://www.gazetteherald.co.uk/news/18443907.three-people-rescued-electric-car-helmsley-power-fails/ Three people rescued from electric car after power failure May 12, 2020 THREE people had to be rescued from an electric car after a power failure. Fire crews were called out in Helmsley just

Re: [EVDL] FW: EnergyObserver's First Transatlantic Passage a Complete Success ...

2020-05-12 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Musk throws another tantrum

2020-05-12 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] FW: EnergyObserver's First Transatlantic Passage a Complete Success ...

2020-05-12 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
"While I fully agree that a fuel cell for a car is foolish, the one limitation of batteries is energy density. In those applications where energy density is the MOST critical factor, such a LONG distance ocean and air travel, H2 makes sense as it has 7 times the energy density of batteries.

Re: [EVDL] Battery pack sizing.

2020-05-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 May 2020 at 20:58, paul dove via EV wrote: > I promise it's very accurate unless you do serious design changes. > Tesla beats (Model S 350 Wh/m 5000lb car, Model 3 260Wh/m 4000Lb car) > this but I don't know of any others. 2020 Renault Zoe 1502kg (3305lb) 213 wh/mi WLTP @

Re: [EVDL] FW: EnergyObserver's First Transatlantic Passage a Complete Success ...

2020-05-12 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Battery pack sizing.

2020-05-12 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Battery pack sizing.

2020-05-12 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] FW: EnergyObserver's First Transatlantic Passage a Complete Success ...

2020-05-12 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
> The Space Shuttle had a Fuel Cell. > Which produces fresh water that the astronauts drink. Having to carry a battery AND a water tank would have weighed more. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE:

Re: [EVDL] Battery pack sizing.

2020-05-12 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Tue May 12 13:43:26 PDT 2020 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >paul dove via EV wrote: >> For range... take the weight of the vehicle and divide by 10. >> 3200lb car 320 watt hours per mile. > >That's a good rule of thumb for typical cars. It will be different for >much smaller or much bigger vehicles,

Re: [EVDL] Battery pack sizing.

2020-05-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Battery pack sizing.

2020-05-12 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] FW: EnergyObserver's First Transatlantic Passage a Complete Success ...

2020-05-12 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Battery pack sizing.

2020-05-12 Thread Lee Hart via EV
paul dove via EV wrote: For range... take the weight of the vehicle and divide by 10. 3200lb car 320 watt hours per mile. That's a good rule of thumb for typical cars. It will be different for much smaller or much bigger vehicles, or vehicles that have efficiency enhancements, or power

Re: [EVDL] Battery pack sizing.

2020-05-12 Thread Verne Pavreal via EV
We have 10 and 30 amp our lithium ion batteries on our recumbent tandems that gives us 30 or 60 km of range although we do run at a nominal 48 V cheers then > On 12/05/2020, at 10:54 PM, paul dove via EV wrote: > > For range... take the weight of the vehicle and divide by 10. > > 3200lb car

Re: [EVDL] FW: EnergyObserver's First Transatlantic Passage a Complete Success ...

2020-05-12 Thread Larry Gales via EV
ds are > less. > > > > Thanks for the article. I t is good background material. I cant wait to > retire and eventually get back to making my own solar boat. > > > > Bob > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: &

Re: [EVDL] Musk asks that only he be arrested> reopens CA-plant

2020-05-12 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
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[EVDL] FW: EnergyObserver's First Transatlantic Passage a Complete Success ...

2020-05-12 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
background material. I cant wait to retire and eventually get back to making my own solar boat. Bob -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200512/8fb89043/attachment.h

Re: [EVDL] Musk throws another tantrum

2020-05-12 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Good piece. There is real danger in spouting off with statistics that don’t tell an accurate story. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 11, 2020, at 10:52 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: > >  I posted a link with the facts > >>On Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:19:10 AM CDT,

Re: [EVDL] Battery pack sizing.

2020-05-12 Thread paul dove via EV
For range... take the weight of the vehicle and divide by 10. 3200lb car 320 watt hours per mile. Sent from my iPhone > On May 11, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV > wrote: > > I have just taken the first step and purchased near a hundred cells. My > experience is with lead

[EVDL] VW,GM,FMC,FCA automakers restarting production plants

2020-05-12 Thread evln via EV
% All automakers are restarting. Tesla's problem is they are located in a quixotic county that does not care that people NEED to pay their bills, and that other counties are moving forward. Anti-Musk'rs should not dis/bash him for NOT-being stoic, and him using the media to achieve his

Re: [EVDL] Musk asks that only he be arrested> reopens CA-plant

2020-05-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 May 2020 at 0:06, evln via EV wrote: > If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me I'm not an attorney, but it seems to me that this is a civil matter. I doubt that they'll arrest anyone, just maybe levy a fine. The tweet sounds dramatic, though. "I'm an outlaw. Come and get me."