Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions
I’m not buying it. LiCoO2 batteries have their own oxygen source that it why
the Dreamliner Halon system didn’t work when they had battery fires. If they
left it that battery would have continued to burn.
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Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions
I had an idea once. Dump the electrolyte in a fire. That stops the battery
reaction and stops the fire. I'd bet you could make a
heat sensitive relief valve (at the bottom) and as the battery heats up, it
would dump the electrolyte (which is getting hot anyway and would eitherpour
via gravity or perhaps boil out the relief valve). It would make a mess...but I
bet it would work.
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On Sunday, June 21, 2020, 4:15:34 PM PDT, Bill Dube via EV
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This might work, but the fact is that nearly all EVs have metal-oxide
(ie cobalt) li-ion cells than make their own oxygen internally.
Basically a fire blanket is useless in an EV fire, and might even
exacerbate an EV fire by holding in the heat.
What works is water applied liberally and continuously to the battery
pack to keep the undamaged cells in the pack cool.
Thermal management, rather than oxygen starvation (which is impossible.)
Bill D.
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Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions
This might work, but the fact is that nearly all EVs have metal-oxide
(ie cobalt) li-ion cells than make their own oxygen internally.
Basically a fire blanket is useless in an EV fire, and might even
exacerbate an EV fire by holding in the heat.
What works is water applied liberally and continuously to the battery
pack to keep the undamaged cells in the pack cool.
Thermal management, rather than oxygen starvation (which is impossible.)
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https://insideevs.com/news/429647/giant-fire-blanket-cuts-reignition-ev-blazes/
Giant Fire Blanket Helps Cut Battery Reignition In Electric Car Blazes
Jun 19, 2020 ... there is no fire without oxygen ... with a giant fire
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GM must fulfill promises to state, Valley
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Skoda’s First Electric Vehicle Was A 1939 Beer Truck
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in Pilsen to the town’s bars and restaurants. It had a bank of rechargeable
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6,614 lbs (3 tons) of beer. The truck delivered beer for many years,
according to factory records ...
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Skoda’s First Electric Vehicle Was A 1939 Beer Truck
June 20, 2020 ... in 1938, on the brink of WWII, oil imports were under
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in Pilsen to the town’s bars and restaurants. It had a bank of rechargeable
lead acid batteries mounted within the ladder chassis and could haul up to
6,614 lbs (3 tons) of beer. The truck delivered beer for many years,
according to factory records ...
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Self-drive electric motorboats available again on Lake Windermere
19th June 2020 ... SELF-DRIVE motorboats will once again be available to
hire from Bowness from this Saturday. The online booking system is now live,
and bookings can be made up to seven days in advance. The 49-strong fleet of
Windermere Lake Cruises electric boats have been out of action for more than
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GM must fulfill promises to state, Valley
Jun 21, 2020 Ohio should hold General Motors accountable to pay back the
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assembly and stamping plants in Lordstown ... GM disputes the demand and
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economic development” and the company’s “significant manufacturing presence”
in the state and the Mahoning Valley ...
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2020 Chevrolet Menlo EV Gets This One Cool Cargo Feature
Jun 20, 2020 The feature in question is found in the Chevrolet Menlo EV’s
sizable rear hatch. Underneath the rear hatch cargo floor, there’s a
segmented tray, which can easily hold a number of different items safely and
out of sight ... Looking over the official picture provided by Chevrolet,
the cargo tray can hold things like a bag, the battery charging cord, some
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20200625
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Tesla-GM-FMC-Self-Driving-Race-details-tp4697856.html
EVLN: Tesla,GM,FMC Self-Driving Race details
The Self-Driving Car Race Between Tesla, GM and Ford Takes a Big Turn
06/20/20 ... Both Ford’s and GM’s driving assist features rely on a “lidar”
(a radar using light instead of radio waves) system that pre-maps an entire
area in which a car is expected to move around. A driver can then select a
route on that map and direct the car to move itself along it. Tesla’s
Autopilot operates in a completely different method. Instead of pre-mapping
the roads, Tesla uses eight in-car cameras to capture a 360-degree view
around the vehicle at any moment. Real-time footages caught by these cameras
are then parsed by machine-learning algorithms to guide motion ...
https://observer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/06/GettyImages-1199703559.jpg
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Audi-e-tron-S-3-e-motor-on-Nurburgring-de-track-v-tp4697857.html
EVLN: Audi e-tron S 3 e-motor on Nürburgring .de track (v)
Watch Audi e-tron S tri-motor electric car burn rubber on Nürburgring track
Jun. 19th 2020 ... An Audi e-tron S prototype, with a tri-motor electric
powertrain ... spotted testing its performance on the Nürburgring racetrack
... achieves a 0 to 100 km/h (62.1 mph) acceleration in 4.5s ... not where
the e-tron S shines ...
https://youtu.be/Rbk2mEABzfE
+
Beta Tech Alia's e-vtol transported
Aerodynamic Audi e-turd S
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/George-s-farm-truck-van-EV-project-tp4697746.html
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[EVDL] EVLN: Audi e-tron S 3 e-motor on Nürburgring .de track (v)
https://electrek.co/2020/06/19/audi-e-tron-s-tri-motor-electric-car-video-nurburgring-track/
Watch Audi e-tron S tri-motor electric car burn rubber on Nürburgring track
Jun. 19th 2020 ... An Audi e-tron S prototype, with a tri-motor electric
powertrain ... spotted testing its performance on the Nürburgring racetrack
... achieves a 0 to 100 km/h (62.1 mph) acceleration in 4.5s ... not where
the e-tron S shines ...
https://youtu.be/Rbk2mEABzfE
+ (Aerodynamic Audi e-turd S)
https://carbuzz.com/news/check-out-the-advanced-aerodynamics-of-the-audi-e-tron-s
Check Out The Advanced Aerodynamics Of The Audi e-tron S
2020-06-20 Audi is diving headfirst into the electric vehicle market, with
a lot of new models ... These trims add 0.9 inches of width on either side
of the car compared to the ...
https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-images/840x560/721000/500/721532.jpg
...
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[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla,GM,FMC Self-Driving Race details
https://observer.com/2020/06/tesla-gm-ford-electric-vehicle-self-driving-autopilot-update/
The Self-Driving Car Race Between Tesla, GM and Ford Takes a Big Turn
06/20/20 ... Both Ford’s and GM’s driving assist features rely on a “lidar”
(a radar using light instead of radio waves) system that pre-maps an entire
area in which a car is expected to move around. A driver can then select a
route on that map and direct the car to move itself along it. Tesla’s
Autopilot operates in a completely different method. Instead of pre-mapping
the roads, Tesla uses eight in-car cameras to capture a 360-degree view
around the vehicle at any moment. Real-time footages caught by these cameras
are then parsed by machine-learning algorithms to guide motion ...
https://observer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/06/GettyImages-1199703559.jpg
+ (Beta Tech Alia's e-vtol transported)
Brawn over brains: How Beta’s new electric aircraft made its first flight
...
June 19, 2020 ... Burlington, Vermont-based electric aviation startup Beta
Technologies revealed its striking new aircraft, an all-white electric
vertical take-off and landing (eVTOL) beauty code-named Alia ...
https://youtu.be/L2yJdzP6YBA
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20200624
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Waydoo-Flyer1-ultimate-water-sport-flying-tp4697853.html
EVLN: Waydoo Flyer1> ultimate water-sport flying
Waydoo Flyer One Brings Accessible Luxury to Water Sports
19 Jun 2020 The electric revolution is coming for the world of water
sports, and a first step in that ... Fast, quiet, and emission-free, the
Flyer ONE creates the ultimate flying ...
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/waydoo-flyer-one-brings-accessible-luxury-to-water-sports_1.jpg
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Leaf-pr-faster-than-a-speeding-th-kite-surfer-v-tp4697854.html
EVLN: Leaf-pr> faster than a speeding .th kite-surfer (v)
18 June 2020 Using a Pyrotechnician’s ‘fire-line’ and a champion kite
surfer, testers wants to see who makes it to the finish line the fastest ...
to break ... perception that electric vehicles are not exciting. The Nissan
LEAF, with its rapid acceleration of 100 km/h in 7.9 seconds, raced ahead of
its elemental rivals ...
https://youtu.be/xyDUQMJtx8k
+
vw-pr> ID.4 Cross EV Production Model details
Vauxhall-pr> electric Vivaro-e Life people carrier
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/What-the-great-Google-god-sez-about-EV-towing-capacities-tp4697831.html
What the great-Google-god sez about EV towing capacities
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/dead-2012-Nissan-Leaf-available-in-Boston-area-tp4697715p4697719.html
dead,Boston-MA road-rusted,tow-away leaf seeks new owner
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[EVDL] EVLN: Leaf-pr> faster than a speeding .th kite-surfer (v)
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/nissan-leaf-outpaces-wind-fire-00540.html
18 June 2020 Using a Pyrotechnician’s ‘fire-line’ and a champion kite
surfer, testers wants to see who makes it to the finish line the fastest ...
to break ... perception that electric vehicles are not exciting. The Nissan
LEAF, with its rapid acceleration of 100 km/h in 7.9 seconds, raced ahead of
its elemental rivals ...
https://youtu.be/xyDUQMJtx8k
+ (vw-pr)
https://jalopnik.com/here-is-volkswagens-new-id-4-cross-ev-production-model-1844067856
Here Is Volkswagen's New ID.4 Cross EV Production Model Before They Wanted
You To See It
2020/06/17 ... While we've already seen concept and pre-production versions
of Volkswagen's upcoming electric, MEB-based SUV, the ID.4 Cross, VW wasn't
quite ready to ...
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[EVDL] EVLN: Waydoo Flyer1> ultimate water-sport flying
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/waydoo-flyer-one-brings-accessible-luxury-to-water-sports-145041.html
Waydoo Flyer One Brings Accessible Luxury to Water Sports
19 Jun 2020 The electric revolution is coming for the world of water
sports, and a first step in that ... Fast, quiet, and emission-free, the
Flyer ONE creates the ultimate flying ...
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/waydoo-flyer-one-brings-accessible-luxury-to-water-sports_1.jpg
...
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page=413529=Waydoo=0
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/vauxhall-launches-electric-vivaro-e-09735.html
Vauxhall launches electric Vivaro-e Life people carrier
18 June 2020 Vauxhall has revealed the new all-electric Vivaro-e Life people
carrier, which will go on sale this summer ...
https://media.zenfs.com/en/motor1_uk_340/3fdad22b0d8a1620b54dc3422184020c
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[EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions
https://insideevs.com/news/429647/giant-fire-blanket-cuts-reignition-ev-blazes/
Giant Fire Blanket Helps Cut Battery Reignition In Electric Car Blazes
Jun 19, 2020 ... there is no fire without oxygen ... with a giant fire
blanket ...
https://youtu.be/yO8cVWOqZcg
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20200623
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-80kW-96hp-48V-in-outboard-boat-e-motors-in-production-tp4697849.html
EVLN: 80kW/96hp 48V in boat e-motors in production
New 48 volt electric boat motor now in production
June 17, 2020 A new 48 volt electric boat motor with peak power of 80kW (96
hp) and nominal power of 50kW (65hp) is going into serial production and can
be ordered now for delivery in December 2020. The motor, from Germany
company Volabo, uses a technology called ISCAD: Intelligent Stator CAge
Drive – to create a virtual gearbox that changes the speed and torque of the
motor by altering the pairing of magnetic poles in the stator cage ...
https://i1.wp.com/plugboats.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/volabo-electric-boat-motor-configurations-f.jpg
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Candela7-hydrofoil-speed-e-boat-r-92km-50mi-37kph-20knots-v-tp4697850.html
EVLN: Candela7 hydrofoil speed e-boat r:92km/50mi @37kph/20knots (v)
Candela 7: all-electric hydrofoil with 92 km range (video)
Jun 14, 2020 This Swedish electric speedboat "flies" above water and is
still available in limited numbers ... an electric range of 92 km (50
nautical miles) in 20 knots (37 kph), on par with combustion engine boats
...
https://youtu.be/Oa63izfR26s
+
Remember when ?experts? said r:50mi was more than enough?
Lucid Air EV pricing on September 9, 2020
Bamboo EV wins award
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-1-732-2020-Changli-Nemeca-Cheapest-60V-cn-nEV-ts-32kph-v-tp4697647p4697708.html
PKR349,320/$2130 Pakistan can import Changli Nameca .cn nEV
Pakistanis can Now Order World’s Cheapest Electric Car
Jun 11, 2020 ... Pakistanis can import the China-made Changli Nameca car
through Alibaba ... You can get this car for only $930 (PKR152,520), but
this price is without a battery pack. To get the pack, you will need to pay
$1200 (PKR196,800), which we think is not bad at all in this price range.
Furthermore, it is an excellent deal for local consumers as the government
slashed 25-50% customs duty on electric cars last year ... Its biggest
positive is its price ...
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[EVDL] EVLN: Candela7 hydrofoil speed e-boat r:92km/50mi @37kph/20knots (v)
https://www.electrive.com/2020/06/14/candela-seven-all-electric-hydrofoil-with-92-km-range-video/
Candela 7: all-electric hydrofoil with 92 km range (video)
Jun 14, 2020 This Swedish electric speedboat "flies" above water and is
still available in limited numbers ... an electric range of 92 km (50
nautical miles) in 20 knots (37 kph), on par with combustion engine boats
...
https://youtu.be/Oa63izfR26s
+
https://electrek.co/2020/06/17/lucid-motors-production-air-electric-car-pricing-specs-sept-9/
Lucid Motors to unveil production Air electric car with
pricing
2020/06/17 ... Lucid Motors announced today that it's going to unveil the
production version of its Air electric car with pricing and specs on
September 9 ...
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[EVDL] EVLN: 80kW/96hp 48V in boat e-motors in production
https://plugboats.com/new-48-volt-electric-boat-motor-now-production/
New 48 volt electric boat motor now in production
June 17, 2020 A new 48 volt electric boat motor with peak power of 80kW (96
hp) and nominal power of 50kW (65hp) is going into serial production and can
be ordered now for delivery in December 2020. The motor, from Germany
company Volabo, uses a technology called ISCAD: Intelligent Stator CAge
Drive – to create a virtual gearbox that changes the speed and torque of the
motor by altering the pairing of magnetic poles in the stator cage ...
https://i1.wp.com/plugboats.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/volabo-electric-boat-motor-configurations-f.jpg
+ (?Remember when ?experts? said r:50mi was more than enough?)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/17/success/tesla-model-s-long-range-400-miles/index.html
Tesla's new Model S can get 400 miles on a charge. Here's why that may not
matter
June 17, 2020 ... A number of electric vehicles already on the market get
more than 200 miles of range, which many experts feel is enough to give car
shoppers sufficient comfort ...
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Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!
Tesla supports towing on the Model Y. A Class II hitch with 3500 pound capacity is a $1,000 option on the US order page. I've heard others say that Tesla supports towing on the Model 3 also, but don't see it on the order page or aftermarket shop. Supposedly, it has 2000 pound towing capacity. One thing I've noticed is that Tesla sometimes supports towing in other countries, but not the US. I've heard that was true of the Model S too. Mike -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 12:43 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Lee Hart Subject: Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT! Willie via EV wrote: >>> It really depends on your anal retentiveness or how risk averse you are. EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: >> And on whether you're willing to discard the warranty on a $30K+ vehicle. Willie via EV wrote: > Agreed. The risk averse should not install a trailer hitch on a car > whose maker prohibits towing. The less risk averse realize that > installation of the hitch does not automatically void all aspects of > the warranty. The physics of the matter is that towing increases the strain on the batteries, controller, motor, and brakes. Manufacturers prefer to skimp on them to save cost. Towing just might put some part a little above its maximum design limit. Thus, towing increases the chances of a failure during warranty. But of course, how you drive and how often you tow makes a huge difference. Do you do it often? Do you still drive at 80 mph with a trailer? In the mountains? But if you drive very gently when towing, the strain on the drive train can actually be less than the "stop light racers" who drive like the accellerator and brake pedal are on/off switches. So it's easy for the dealer and manufacturer to say "no towing". If it breaks during warranty, they can use the hitch as evidence and deny any coverage. Even if you have never in fact towed anything, they win; you lose! Me; I tow with older vehicles that don't have any warranty anyway. And, I'm a very conservative driver. I've never had any problems due to towing. Lee Hart -- If happiness is on your mind, here's a daily list to find: - something to do - something to look forward to - someone to love - someone to take good care of - and misbehave, just a little -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!
Willie via EV wrote: It really depends on your anal retentiveness or how risk averse you are. EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: And on whether you're willing to discard the warranty on a $30K+ vehicle. Willie via EV wrote: Agreed. The risk averse should not install a trailer hitch on a car whose maker prohibits towing. The less risk averse realize that installation of the hitch does not automatically void all aspects of the warranty. The physics of the matter is that towing increases the strain on the batteries, controller, motor, and brakes. Manufacturers prefer to skimp on them to save cost. Towing just might put some part a little above its maximum design limit. Thus, towing increases the chances of a failure during warranty. But of course, how you drive and how often you tow makes a huge difference. Do you do it often? Do you still drive at 80 mph with a trailer? In the mountains? But if you drive very gently when towing, the strain on the drive train can actually be less than the "stop light racers" who drive like the accellerator and brake pedal are on/off switches. So it's easy for the dealer and manufacturer to say "no towing". If it breaks during warranty, they can use the hitch as evidence and deny any coverage. Even if you have never in fact towed anything, they win; you lose! Me; I tow with older vehicles that don't have any warranty anyway. And, I'm a very conservative driver. I've never had any problems due to towing. Lee Hart -- If happiness is on your mind, here's a daily list to find: - something to do - something to look forward to - someone to love - someone to take good care of - and misbehave, just a little -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!
On 6/21/20 9:27 AM, Paul Dove via EV wrote: The I-MiEV says not to pull a trailer because the brakes aren’t rated for it. However, I know lots of people doing it. Not sure I would tow a boat with it. With regenerative braking people rarely use the brakes. Mine is 8 years old and the pads still look new. The imiev is the most obxiously ICEcentric EV I have driven! Though I love mine for several reasons. The not optional creep. The three levels of very weak and lagging regen. The odd "twist key against a spring" starting procedure. Perhaps justifiably, EV makers want to put bigger brakes on tow rated EVs. Only in the relatively rare situations of a full or cold battery are bigger brakes needed. Permit me a digression. Last year, our local Tesla group was joined by a new Model 3 owner. He complained vociferously about regen. He recommended to Tesla that, if they wanted to make it a mass market car, they would HAVE make it drive like a Prius. His other car was a Prius and they (he and his wife) were used getting on the brake as soon as the throttle was lifted; they always abruptly lifted the throttle and were irritated by the resultant rapid slowing. Thankfully for the sanity of the group, they finally came to terms with "one pedal driving". And grew to love it. When driving an imiev, I am constantly irritated by the lag in regen. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!
The I-MiEV says not to pull a trailer because the brakes aren’t rated for it. However, I know lots of people doing it. Not sure I would tow a boat with it. With regenerative braking people rarely use the brakes. Mine is 8 years old and the pads still look new. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Willie via EV wrote: > > > >> On 6/21/20 7:58 AM, mark hanson via EV wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> I saw a 5200 lb towing capacity emailed out so I googled the operators >> manual for a 2020 Bolt, Page 230 that says NO towing capacity. So don't see >> any EV (except a unaffordable pricey Tesla X) to tow my 1600lb alum boat. >> Maybe compromise with a hybrid, but more attracted complexity than just >> keeping my old Ford Ranger. > > It really depends on your anal retentiveness or how risk averse you are. The > lack of stated towing capacities has more to do with the manufacturer's high > level of risk avoidance and the perils of liability. > > I imagine that if a car is "rated for towing", it can be expected to pull > that load ALWAYS and never be operated without a loaded trailer. > > IMHO, ANY modern car should be capable of pulling at least a 2000 lb trailer > if equipped with a proper hitch. Thousands of 2000 lb hitches have been sold > for imievs, Leafs, Model Ss, Model 3s, etc. > > OTOH, if your boat weighs 1600 lb, then the loaded trailer may well be > pushing the arbitrary 2000 lb threshold. > > I will point out that it is not likely that an ICE manufacturer has ever > condoned a conversion to electric. So, most here will likely take > manufacturer's recommendations, or lack, with a large dose of salt. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!
On 6/21/20 9:06 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 21 Jun 2020 at 8:25, Willie via EV wrote: It really depends on your anal retentiveness or how risk averse you are. And on whether you're willing to discard the warranty on a $30K+ vehicle. Agreed. The risk averse should not install a trailer hitch on a car whose maker prohibits towing. The less risk averse realize that installation of the hitch does not automatically void all aspects of the warranty. An anecdote: I had a new 2006 Hyundai with 12 miles on the odometer converted understanding I would have no Hyundai warranty. I did not suffer from lack of warranty. Though I was surprised when a Hyundai dealer refused to perform a state safety inspection on the converted car. I have had no warranty problems with three Teslas on which I installed trailer hitches though Tesla Service Centers refuse to install hitches. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!
On 21 Jun 2020 at 8:25, Willie via EV wrote: > It really depends on your anal retentiveness or how risk averse you are. And on whether you're willing to discard the warranty on a $30K+ vehicle. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!
Model 3 can tow
https://electrek.co/2019/05/08/tesla-model-3-tow-hitch/
Model Y can tow
https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-model-y-tow-hitch
Model S can tow
https://torkliftcentral.com/2012-2016-tesla-model-s-ecohitch-stealth
(An early, used Model S in good condition can be bought for $25-30k)
Barry
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 8:59 AM mark hanson via EV
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> Hi Folks,
>
> I saw a 5200 lb towing capacity emailed out so I googled the operators
> manual for a 2020 Bolt, Page 230 that says NO towing capacity. So don't
> see
> any EV (except a unaffordable pricey Tesla X) to tow my 1600lb alum boat.
> Maybe compromise with a hybrid, but more attracted complexity than just
> keeping my old Ford Ranger.
>
>
>
> Trailer Towing
>
> General Towing
>
> Information
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> {Warning
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> Never tow a trailer with your
>
> vehicle. It was not designed or
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> intended to tow a trailer.
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>
>
> Have a renewable energy day,
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Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!
On 6/21/20 7:58 AM, mark hanson via EV wrote: Hi Folks, I saw a 5200 lb towing capacity emailed out so I googled the operators manual for a 2020 Bolt, Page 230 that says NO towing capacity. So don't see any EV (except a unaffordable pricey Tesla X) to tow my 1600lb alum boat. Maybe compromise with a hybrid, but more attracted complexity than just keeping my old Ford Ranger. It really depends on your anal retentiveness or how risk averse you are. The lack of stated towing capacities has more to do with the manufacturer's high level of risk avoidance and the perils of liability. I imagine that if a car is "rated for towing", it can be expected to pull that load ALWAYS and never be operated without a loaded trailer. IMHO, ANY modern car should be capable of pulling at least a 2000 lb trailer if equipped with a proper hitch. Thousands of 2000 lb hitches have been sold for imievs, Leafs, Model Ss, Model 3s, etc. OTOH, if your boat weighs 1600 lb, then the loaded trailer may well be pushing the arbitrary 2000 lb threshold. I will point out that it is not likely that an ICE manufacturer has ever condoned a conversion to electric. So, most here will likely take manufacturer's recommendations, or lack, with a large dose of salt. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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Hi Folks,
I saw a 5200 lb towing capacity emailed out so I googled the operators
manual for a 2020 Bolt, Page 230 that says NO towing capacity. So don't see
any EV (except a unaffordable pricey Tesla X) to tow my 1600lb alum boat.
Maybe compromise with a hybrid, but more attracted complexity than just
keeping my old Ford Ranger.
Trailer Towing
General Towing
Information
{Warning
Never tow a trailer with your
vehicle. It was not designed or
intended to tow a trailer.
Have a renewable energy day,
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[EVDL] Green license plates for EVs
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https://www.google.com/search?q=green+license+plate+electric
Green number plates planned for electric cars - BBC News
www.bbc.com › news › business-50122268
Oct 22, 2019 - Drivers of electric cars across the UK may soon be using
special green number plates under new plans. The aim is to make it possible
for local ...
Green light and green license plates to electric cars - Medium
medium.com › green-light-and-green-license-plates-to-electric-cars-7...
Aug 19, 2019 - Green license plate in Quebec. The first step to comply
Ukrainian legislation with the best European and world practices in the
field of electric ...
China Issues Green License Plates For Electric Cars ...
insideevs.com › News › General
Apr 24, 2016 - China's traffic management authority has announced that
new-energy vehicles (mostly plug-in electric cars) will get a special green
license ...
[dated]
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/uk-green-EV-lic-plates-a-target4-cloning-crooks-tp4696332.html
.uk green EV lic. plates> a target4 cloning-crooks
Department for Transport green number plate electric cars concept 03
February 2020 James Allen ..
Feb 05 2020
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-10k-DIY-Miata-MX-5-red-convertible-120V-Optimas-Warp9-r-35km-ts-110kph-tp4687571.html
EVLN: $10k DIY Miata MX-5 red convertible 120V-Optimas Warp9 r:35km
ts:110kph
...Seven years and many hundreds of hours of tinkering later, DeVuyst became
the proud owner this summer of a street-legal, fully electric, 1990 Mazda
Miata MX-5 convertible with the official
green licence plate ...
Aug 05, 2017
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Enough-with-the-sanctimonious-green-car-license-plates-already-tp4675350.html
EVLN: 'Enough with the sanctimonious green car license plates already'
'We know your car is green & superior to us in every imaginable way'
Dear Tesla and Prius owners, enough with the sanctimonious license plates
Technically...
May 05, 2015
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20200622
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-AK-EV-drivers-say-no-cold-winter-weather-problems-tp4697836.html
EVLN: AK EV drivers say no cold/winter-weather problems
Do electric vehicles work at 40 below? Alaska owners say ‘yes’
June 11, 2020 ... Martakis says he drives his Chevy Bolt EV year-round.
“I’ve been driving this thing for three years, three winters, including this
last one. We don’t have a garage for it; it’s outside in the cold all the
time. It is by far my number one vehicle to drive,” ... Weflen of Fairbanks
also has a Chevy Bolt he powers with his own solar farm ...
https://www.alaskapublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/PEVs-charging-in-NREL-garage-via-NREL-database.jpg
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Austin-TX-Cybertruck-gigafactory-eyed-considered-tp4697837.html
EVLN: Austin-TX Cybertruck gigafactory> (eyed/considered)
Tesla edges toward Austin, Texas for Cybertruck Gigafactory
June 19, 2020 Tesla appears to be close to inking a deal with Texas to
build a Gigafactory for its Cybertruck pickup ... The 4 to 5
million-square-foot plant would employee 5,000 workers and become Tesla’s
fourth for vehicle assembly ...
+
New electric-shuttles start service in south Sacramento-CA
Tesla Autopilot gets alleged misleading-advertising .de flak
EV2Home (V2H) connection= EV powers house during blackout
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVs-bring-10-000-in-life-saving-benefits-tp4697811.html
EVs bring $10,000 in life-saving benefits
New study: Every electric car brings $10,000 in life-saving benefits
Jun. 3rd 2020 ... Converting all cars and SUVs in the area into electric
vehicles would cause 313 fewer deaths per year, an estimated social benefit
of $2.4 billion -Converting all transport trucks to more efficient models
would cause 275 fewer deaths, an estimated social benefit of $2.1 billion
-Converting all transit systems to electric buses would cause 143 fewer
deaths, an estimated social benefit of $1.1 billion ...
https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/06/toronto-ev-health.jpg
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[EVDL] EVLN: Austin-TX Cybertruck gigafactory> (eyed/considered)
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https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/68-million-tax-breaks-may-go-to-put-Tesla-plant-15350682.php
$68 million tax breaks may go to put Tesla plant to Austin
June 18, 2020 AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - An Austin-area school district is
considering offering more than $60 million in tax incentives to attract a
proposed Tesla "gigafactory" to Central Texas, Tesla revealed Thursday ...
https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/tesla-eyes-texas-us-cybertruck-factory
Tesla eyes Texas for U.S. Cybertruck factory
June 18, 2020 Tesla is zeroing in on an area in southeast Austin, Texas,
for the electric-car maker’s second U.S. auto factory as Elon Musk ...
https://www.altoonamirror.com/uncategorized/2020/06/tax-breaks-may-go-to-tesla-plant/
Tax breaks may go to Tesla plant
Jun 19, 2020 The Del Valle Independent School District proposal was made
public in a Tesla tax application filed Thursday with the Texas
comptroller’s office. The proposal would offer Tesla $68 million in property
...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/tesla-picks-texas-austin-for-second-us-plant-where-cybertrucks-will-be-made/ar-BB15H6lh
Tesla picks Texas' Austin for second US plant, where Cybertrucks will be
made
Jun 19, 2020 The 4 to 5 million-square-foot plant would employee 5,000
workers and become Tesla’s fourth for vehicle assembly ...
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-edges-toward-austin-texas-for-cybertruck-gigafactory/
Tesla edges toward Austin, Texas for Cybertruck Gigafactory
June 19, 2020 Tesla appears to be close to inking a deal with Texas to
build a Gigafactory for its Cybertruck pickup ...
+
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-autopilot-lawsuit-germany-misleading-advertising/
Tesla Autopilot gets flak in Germany over alleged ‘misleading advertising’
June 18, 2020 As Gigafactory Berlin’s construction hits its stride, Tesla
appears to be facing some pressure from a German regional trial court over
the company’s use of “Autopilot” to describe its advanced driver assist
suite, which comes standard with every new vehicle purchase today. A suit
against the electric car maker was filed by the Wettbewerbszentrale
(Competition Center), which is now being handled by a Munich Regional Court
...
https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/nav-on-autopilot.jpg
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[EVDL] EVLN: AK EV drivers say no cold/winter-weather problems
https://www.alaskapublic.org/2020/06/11/do-electric-vehicles-work-at-40-below-alaska-owners-say-yes/
Do electric vehicles work at 40 below? Alaska owners say ‘yes’
June 11, 2020 ... “It’s just totally blown all expectations and hopes out of
the water,” said longtime Denali area innkeeper and guide Kurt Martakis. He
says he drives his Chevy Bolt EV year-round. “I’ve been driving this thing
for three years, three winters, including this last one. We don’t have a
garage for it; it’s outside in the cold all the time. It is by far my number
one vehicle to drive,” ... Weflen of Fairbanks also has a Chevy Bolt he
powers with his own solar farm ...
https://www.alaskapublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/PEVs-charging-in-NREL-garage-via-NREL-database.jpg
+
https://electriccarsreport.com/2020/06/new-electric-powered-shuttles-to-start-service-in-south-sacramento/
New electric-powered shuttles to start service in south Sacramento
June 14, 2020 The first of three new GreenPower EV Star shuttles will be
put into service beginning Monday, June 15, 2020 as part of Electrify
America’s more than $40 million Green Cities investments in Sacramento-CA
...
https://electriccarsreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/GreenPower-EV-Star-shuttle.jpg?dc5f61
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[EVDL] .cn Tesla-3 suddenly uncontrollably accelerated, crashed
https://www.gizmochina.com/2020/06/18/tesla-model-3-suddenly-picks-up-speed-uncontrollably-crashed-and-caught-fire/
Tesla Model 3 suddenly picked up speed uncontrollably, crashed and caught
fire in China
Jun 18, 2020 ... Tesla Model 3 accident occurred in Jiangxi after the car
suddenly accelerated to 127 km/h while the owner was driving. All efforts to
reduce the speed proved abortive as the brakes failed. The car then crashed
and burst in flame ...
https://www.gizmochina.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/tesla-model-3.png
+ (render, ?vaporware?)
https://electrek.co/2020/05/29/this-odd-looking-vehicle-is-reportedly-lightnings-enclosed-electric-motorcycle/
This odd-looking vehicle is reportedly Lightning’s enclosed electric
motorcycle
May. 29th 2020 ... Lightning Motorcycles is ... working on an enclosed
electric motorcycle ... The crash safety ratings are determined by a vehicle
hitting an immovable object.
https://i1.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/05/Screen-Shot-2020-05-29-at-1.12.10-PM.png
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