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On 12 Feb 2022 at 14:25, Willie McKemie via EV wrote:
> Tesla's goal is to hasten the adoption electric vehicles.
So Musk says, or at least he used to.
> The others goal is to delay adoption.
That's unquestionably true in the US.
In Europe, nope.
The automakers aren't stupid. Western
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Interesting article.
Your info on rates, though, may be where you are, but not everywhere. I can’t
tell you what the rates are here, but know that chargers get subsidized rates.
- Mark
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> On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:38 AM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:
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Since fast chargers are connected to a 480 3 phase industrial feed, they
generally get the industrial rate, less than the 12.6cents residential rate
(typically 1/2-2/3rds residential) Tesla then charges 28-35cents per KWh and VW
(Electrify America) 43cents per KWh.
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On 12 Feb 2022 at 8:24, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
> The slowness and lack of responsiveness of the utilities in California
> have been a big issue in trying to deploy the technology.
You younguns weren't around then, but we crusty curmudgeons remember a half
century and more back, when the
I would agree that there would only be a modest amount of congestion “at this
time”.
But BEVs will be flooding the market over the next few years, and that will be
short-lived. Can they expand the network quick enough, while maintaining the
same level of performance, reliability, etc?
On 12 Feb 2022 at 13:37, paul dove via EV wrote:
> They should reimburse Tesla for their charging network if they're
> gonna put chargers in for all the other companies
I don't see why. Tesla chose to bundle the cost of their exclusive,
private, proprietary charging into the $100k price of
I would guess that they would have to apply for the funds, which may be
allocated to the states for distribution. But I haven’t looked at the bill,
and it may all be undecided right now.
Monopoly? Maybe.
- Mark
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> On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Steves via
On 2/12/22 10:39 AM, Steves via EV wrote:
Tesla has the infrastructure there already. Why not piggyback onto their
network. Pay Tesla to add a few chargers for other cars at each of their
stations. Be relatively cheap that way. And yes it’s promoting a charging
monopoly, but they do have a
For the charger funding issue:
In Europe, Tesla has opened a few charging locations to non-Tesla
vehicles. If that trend continues and comes to the USA, it could be that
Tesla might then be eligible for federal infrastructure funding.
Part of the issue is competing standards. It's easier to
Tesla has the infrastructure there already. Why not piggyback onto their
network. Pay Tesla to add a few chargers for other cars at each of their
stations. Be relatively cheap that way. And yes it’s promoting a charging
monopoly, but they do have a great system.
-Steve
> On Feb 12, 2022, at
Weren’t the cost of those chargers incorporated into the purchase price of the
vehicles?
- Mark
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> On Feb 12, 2022, at 6:19 AM, paul dove via EV wrote:
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> They should reimburse Tesla for their charging network if they’re gonna put
> chargers in for all
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