[EVDL] Leaf. 80% charge setting.

2022-11-22 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
 We have two Leafs..The 2013 will charge to 80%. The newer 2016 does not have 
the setting. Can it be added somehow? Lawrence Rhodes 
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  1. Re: the grid needs upgrading - fast (EV List Lackey)
  2. Re: the grid needs upgrading - fast (j...@k6ccc.org)
  3. leaf 2013 battery (Lawrence Rhodes)
  4. Re: leaf 2013 battery (Peri Hartman)
  5. Re: leaf 2013 battery (Jay Summet)


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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:19:08 -0500
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Good luck with that.  Most of our "investor owned" utilities don't have a 
good track record of even keeping up with current maintenance, much less 
actually planning for the future.  Unless they can see a return from it this 
quarter, they won't pay for it.  If you want to see where that kind of short-
sightedness leads, have a look at Puerto Rico's grid.

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David said:
> Good luck with that.  Most of our "investor owned" utilities don't have a 
> good track record of even keeping up with current maintenance, much less 
> actually planning for the future.

For the most part, at least here in California, the investor owned utilities 
largely are not allowed to plan (or more accurately to spend) for the future.  
In really short summary, the concept is that rate payers today should not have 
to pay for future projects.  That is an insanely simple explanation of a very 
complex process, but it's a fairly accurate summary.

As I understand it, most other states are at least similar.


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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 01:17:17 + (UTC)
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As far as I know the 2013 has the lizard battery.? Lawrence Rhodes
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That's what I've read, too, but I sure would like a definitive way to 
know.

This guy, LeftieBiker, wrote quite a lot, might be worth reading:
https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=57=26662

Peri

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Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

2022-11-22 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
Wow, you must commute a LONG ways every day!  When an EV has a 300+ mile 
range, and can recharge in < 30 minutes, that seems perfectly adequate 
for long trips.
ALSO needing BIG charge power at the truck stops is for the Electric 
Semi trucks.


On 11/22/2022 2:07 PM, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote:

IMHO...
EV's are not long distance vehiclesthey are commuter vehicles.


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Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

2022-11-22 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
IMHO...
EV's are not long distance vehiclesthey are commuter vehicles.
PV provides lots of peak power during the day, zero at night

It would be a good idea to promote EV charging with PV during the day.
Where are commuter vehicles during the day?   Probably at work.
Seems that it would be common sense to promote slow EV charging at 
workduring the day.   Don't even need to have thePV at work, as there is 
probably PV somewhere close anyway.




 

On Monday, November 21, 2022, 7:51:08 AM PST, John Lussmyer via EV 
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 Which problem can be mitigated by having more distributed power. Like a 
Tesla Megapack at major truck stops.

On 11/21/2022 7:09 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Electric truck stops will need as much power as a small town
> https://www.seattletimes.com/business/electric-truck-stops-will-need-as-much-power-as-a-small-town/
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> ...
> If power upgrades don’t start soon, the transition to electric 
> vehicles — let alone electric trucks — will quickly be constrained by 
> a grid unprepared for the demand, warned Bart Franey, vice president 
> of clean energy development at National Grid.
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Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

2022-11-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Jim, interesting short-sightedness.
Rate payers today enjoy the investments done with money from rate
payers of previous years, no?
Cor.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 5:05 PM jim--- via EV  wrote:
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> David said:
> > Good luck with that.  Most of our "investor owned" utilities don't have a
> > good track record of even keeping up with current maintenance, much less
> > actually planning for the future.
>
> For the most part, at least here in California, the investor owned utilities 
> largely are not allowed to plan (or more accurately to spend) for the future. 
>  In really short summary, the concept is that rate payers today should not 
> have to pay for future projects.  That is an insanely simple explanation of a 
> very complex process, but it's a fairly accurate summary.
>
> As I understand it, most other states are at least similar.
>
>
> 73
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> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> j...@k6ccc.org
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Re: [EVDL] leaf 2013 battery

2022-11-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
My understanding is that early 2013's had the original cell chemistry 
battery from 2011-2012late 2013's had the new cell chemistry used in 
2014 onwards.  So buying a 2014+ is the easy way to guarantee getting a 
"lizard" battery without looking up the exact date of manufacture, etc


The VIN can give you a clue, but the only sure way to confirm is to open 
the battery up and see if the modules inside look like Gen1 modules or not.


This image shows the difference:
https://evbatterycenter.com/HAC4/images/2012-2013.jpg

Jay



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As far as I know the 2013 has the lizard battery.  Lawrence Rhodes
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