Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed (Alan Arrison)

2023-09-16 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 16 Sep 2023 at 21:36, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

> 100 miles on 1kWh? What are you smoking?
> 
> I'm pretty sure even an electric bicycle can't do that.

Depends on the bike, I guess, but even our cheap "Makadam" brand department 
store E-bike will do a real-world 40km on a factory-rated 313wh battery - 
about 79 miles per kwh.  That's with pedaling though. 

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Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed (Alan Arrison)

2023-09-16 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
 

100 miles on 1kWh? What are you smoking?

I'm pretty sure even an electric bicycle can't do that.

Al
 You would be mistaken. Stella Era did 1,200 miles over two days using a 
1,250kwh battery and a 1.25 kw solar panel. That's pretty close. Lawrence 
Rhodes.  
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[EVDL] [GGEVA] Paul Scott comment on article NYT Battle Over Electric Vehicles Is Central to Auto Strike

2023-09-16 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
 Bravo.
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:23:06 PM PDT, 
cleanair@sbcglob wrote:  
 
  I couldn't agree more with Paul Scott.Danny Ames

 Paul ScottSanta Monica 
I've been an EV activist for over 20 years. Been driving EVs and powering them 
with solar energy since 2002. I helped organize the fight to save the last 
remaining EV1s that were ultimately crushed as portrayed in the documentary, 
"Who Killed the Electric car?". When we were fighting to save EVs from being 
crushed, the UAW didn't help us. When I went to Washington for hearings on EVs, 
Rep. Dingell testified against EVs, specifically on behalf of the UAW. For two 
decades unions and their members have fought against EVs. 
But then Tesla came along. 
Against heavy odds, Elon Musk and his excellent team of engineers and workers, 
all motivated by the mission to electrify transportation, built the best cars 
and SUVs in the world - according to every metric you wish to use. Tesla, 
derided for years for not being profitable, were pumping the profits into 
building bigger and more efficient factories, "the machine that builds the 
machine", and now Tesla has the highest profit per unit - by far - of all 
carmakers. 
UAW members deserve whatever happens to them. They all drive grossly 
inefficient gas vehicles, and a high percentage of them support Trump. The ICE 
industry is going to be dead no later than 2035, so everyone making anything 
associated with internal combustion will be out of a job. The Labor Dept. says 
we need over a million electricians, so maybe some can learn that trade. I hope 
the strike lasts a long time, because the fewer ICE vehicles built, the better.
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[EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed

2023-09-16 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
 Nothing beats the efficiency of a properly designed solar vehicle that can 
collect energy anytime the sun shines. With a 12.5 kwh battery, 5 seats. 1.25 
kw solar panel .15 coefficient of drag, 45 mph speed and a weight of 850 pounds 
the last interation of the Stella (practical solar vehicle) solar racer of the 
Cruiser Class in the World Solar Challenge achieved 1,200 miles on one charge. 
That's the record in my opinion. solarteameindhoven.nl not a rolling pingpong 
table. Lawrence Rhodes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_(solar_vehicles)
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[EVDL] Paul Scott comment on article NYT Battle Over Electric Vehicles Is Central to Auto Strike

2023-09-16 Thread Danny Ames via EV
I couldn't agree more with Paul Scott.Danny Ames

 Paul ScottSanta Monica 
I've been an EV activist for over 20 years. Been driving EVs and powering them 
with solar energy since 2002. I helped organize the fight to save the last 
remaining EV1s that were ultimately crushed as portrayed in the documentary, 
"Who Killed the Electric car?". When we were fighting to save EVs from being 
crushed, the UAW didn't help us. When I went to Washington for hearings on EVs, 
Rep. Dingell testified against EVs, specifically on behalf of the UAW. For two 
decades unions and their members have fought against EVs. 
But then Tesla came along. 
Against heavy odds, Elon Musk and his excellent team of engineers and workers, 
all motivated by the mission to electrify transportation, built the best cars 
and SUVs in the world - according to every metric you wish to use. Tesla, 
derided for years for not being profitable, were pumping the profits into 
building bigger and more efficient factories, "the machine that builds the 
machine", and now Tesla has the highest profit per unit - by far - of all 
carmakers. 
UAW members deserve whatever happens to them. They all drive grossly 
inefficient gas vehicles, and a high percentage of them support Trump. The ICE 
industry is going to be dead no later than 2035, so everyone making anything 
associated with internal combustion will be out of a job. The Labor Dept. says 
we need over a million electricians, so maybe some can learn that trade. I hope 
the strike lasts a long time, because the fewer ICE vehicles built, the better.
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Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed

2023-09-16 Thread paul dove via EV
 Or carry spare batteries.
On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 08:00:20 PM CDT, Lee Hart via EV 
 wrote:  
 
 Alan Arrison via EV wrote:
> 100 miles on 1kWh? What are you smoking?
> 
> I'm pretty sure even an electric bicycle can't do that.

No; think about it. A bicycle goes about 15 mph. 100 miles / 15 mph 
takes 6.66 hours. 1 KWH is 150 watts for 6.66 hours. Lots of Ebikes have 
200 watt motors. With hard tires and good roads, an Ebike could easily 
do it.

The only challenge is that no normal Ebike has a battery pack that big. 
But you could easily add a battery that big.

Lee
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