On Dec 4, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
>
> The average American 20 mile/day is about
> $40 worth of electricity.
Wha…?
Assume 3 miles per kWh. Rounding up, that’s 7 kWh for your daily mileage. Most
places are within shouting distance of $0.10 / kWh for
On Dec 4, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
>
> Though small, It’s a data point we need to include in
> our quiver and come up with some numbers...
I think focussing on the small fry might be distracting and counterproductive.
If you really want to do that sort
On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> How much ELECTRICITY does a gas station consume
Nowhere near as much as you’re suggesting. As a general rule, Americans use
about as much energy on personal transportation as for household electricity,
with the
On Nov 24, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> Mark Abramowitz wrote:
>
>> Stock price is irrelevant to the value of a company's used product.
>> Frequently also irrelevant to the value of the underlying company.
>
> Agreed. Stock price was just an easy way to
On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> I'd say the problem is that "Mr. Market" won't buy a product with extremely
> long life.
You may well be right. At the same time, reliability is a popular selling
feature, and, if somebody can make a durable battery
On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> And of course, you have to expect that the batteries will get worse over
> time. All batteries do.
True in practice for today's EVs, but _not_ true as an absolute rule. Iron
Edison-style batteries have functionally
On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:48 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV
wrote:
> Maybe non-plug hybrid designers really don't care about battery capacity
> (though that woiuld surprise me). However, for true EVs, we definitely care
> about usable capacity.
It'll be a function of total
On Nov 18, 2015, at 4:39 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> This discount, co-developed by the counties, Nissan North America and
> Boulder Nissan, brings the entry-level Leaf S down to $23,461 from $31,810
> before the federal ($7,500) and state (PDF) (~$5,000) tax credits for
On Nov 13, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Cruisin via EV wrote:
> Regardless where you buy a Leaf at, take note of the high pitch wine sound
> from the motor. VERY aggravating to most people.
Strange. I haven't noticed it at all.
> Also, excessive road noise
> due to lack of insulation.
On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:54 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Prescott
I'm not surprised. Prescott (rhymes with, "biscuit") has seen lots of
transformations over the years...from the first territorial capital to a mining
town and, today, a thriving arts and culture scene. If any
On Nov 13, 2015, at 10:12 AM, allan bullock wrote:
> Check the reviews like consumer reports. It is down rated due to the motor
> whine. It is loudest at around 55mph, very noticeable.
That may be part of it. It's my parent's car, and I don't remember spending any
significant
On Nov 13, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> Most
> manufacturers spec a too low tire pressure so that you get a soft and
> quiet ride, but pump the tires to the pressure that they have a long
> life (you can easily have a difference of 2 times in tire life,
On Nov 12, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> Here I am finally possibly buying an OEM EV. Long way from my 1956VW with an
> ADC and 12v marine batteries.
Amazing turn of EVents, indeed -- and seemingly overnight. When I put the PV
array on my roof a few
On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> I have seen some very good prices on 2013 Leafs with chademo & 6.6 chargers.
> I'm selling the veggie mobile and will need a car and since 12k is affordable
> to me I'm thinking of replacing the mess and thrift
On Nov 12, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Ing. Marco Antonio Gaxiola via EV
wrote:
> Considering the rule of EVs efficiency of 250Watt-hr per mile on a 2500 lbs
> compact car, May it apply same in order to calculate the energy efficiency
> of a prototype motorcycle?
We had this
On Nov 12, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Jamie K via EV wrote:
> It would be cool if, when the time comes to replace the batteries (in another
> 5+ years), Nissan would offer higher range choices for replacement packs.
Nissan is almost going to have to...but, even if they don't,
On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:57 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> “We really need to have a big push for charging,” Tony
> Earley, chief executive officer of PG, said in an Oct. 15 appearance at
> San Francisco’s Commonwealth Club. “The charging station ought to be part of
> our grid
On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:18 AM, tomw via EV wrote:
> Is it capable of the 50kW continuous
> estimated for the full size pickup?
For this sort of back-of-the-envelope guesstimating, you can use a 1:1
conversion for kW and HP. Getting 50 HP out of a 1800 cc aircooled VW motor is
On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Willie2 via EV wrote:
> I have four of these: http://is.gd/j4BtyS on order for about $1300 each.
Updates on how those work out for you would be appreciated. Oh paper, they're
worth considering for my PHEV Mustang
b&
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On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:29 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> It's essentially down to the "smartphone mentality," the report says: buyers
> aren't interested in keeping their cars long term, because they expect
> something better to supersede them fairly soon.
I really, really hope
Depressing to consider that, even in Germany with all its solar and wind power
and now the VW diesel mess...even *that* isn't enough to launch EVs into the
mainstream.
http://phys.org/news/2015-10-vw-dieselgate-spotlight-electric-cars.html
"The government's goal 'is quite simply not
On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:35 AM, John Lussmyer wrote:
> My truck cruises at around 30KW at 60mph. A 10KW generator isn't going to
> extend the range much at all.
Did I slip a decimal?
500 Wh / mile and 50 MPH (for easy numbers) is 2 miles per kWh is 25 kWh for an
On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> I do like the
> utility of having a bed to carry stuff around for those times that
> I need it, even though I have also managed to carry a 2-person
> sofa bed in my Classic Prius or 2 50-gal drums.
I can attest
On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:18 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> In order for the individual to
> see the value proposition, the truck would need a range of at least 200-250
> miles, a towing capacity of 4,000 lbs+, and cost under $60,000.
We can do some math on that.
Trucks,
On Oct 22, 2015, at 8:47 AM, John Lussmyer wrote:
> My Electric F-250 gets around 650Wh/Mile. My range is about 70 miles.
> No Towing. (that would REALLY suck power!)
> Even with those restrictions, I find it very useful. I've had it at a bunch
> of car shows, and
On Oct 21, 2015, at 3:02 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> “We can’t build an electric GT-R today. But do I want to? I’d love to.”
I _still_ say this would be a major tipping point.
And I don't buy that Nissan, maker of the world's best-selling full-sized
electric vehicle, can't
On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote:
> True. I actually meant I've only seen 20A outlets in commercial
> installations. My house is wired with 20A circuits and 15A outlets.
Hmmm...I may well be confused.
I just checked my panel.
Most of the regular
On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:03 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV
wrote:
>> "We can't build an electric GT-R today. But do I want to? I'd love to."
>
> I'll bet Elon Musk LOVES reading statements like that.
I don't think he does. Tesla shareholders focused on quarterly earnings
On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Curt Coleman wrote:
> Interested in a no battery solution?
Huh?
This some over-unity reference?
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On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Roland wrote:
> A electrical worker say he has install a 30 amp circuit, may only mean that
> the wire size is rated for 24 amps at 50 foot circuit run or 16 amps at a 70
> foot run for a 1 percent voltage drop.
I don't remember the actual gauge wire
On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Jim Walls wrote:
> I've never lived in an apartment, but I know people who often have to park
> blocks from home because that's the closest parking.
It might be a zoning thing here, but every apartment complex in the Phoenix
area is pretty much
All the garages I'm familiar with have 30A circuits. Garages typically get used
for power equipment like saws that need heavy draws. If there's a single 30A
circuit in the entire house, it'll be in the garage.
...and that's the case with houses built as far back as the Carter
administration.
On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Don't forget that there is a huge percentage, 30% to 50% depending on how you
> measure, who don't have consistent access to dedicated off street charging.
Almost all those people are apartment dwellers. And I think
On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:24 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> In broad strokes, if you're confident that you can charge your car at home
> every night--or at work every day--then recharge rate may not be quite so
> important.
They're handwaving away the most important point.
People
On Oct 18, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> Agree 100% that dumping excess solar/wind energy into H2 for storage is an
> absolute good idea that will work.
The gaseous form is one of the worst of the options for hydrogen storage.
In a cruel twist of
On Oct 16, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Roland wrote:
> Install the hydrogen tank in a ICE vehicle using standard propane equipment
> that I was already running the engine on.
We're obviously veering sharply offtopic, now. Some years back I looked into
doing pretty much that -- running H2
Off-topic because EVs aren't what they're switching to.
http://phys.org/news/2015-10-toyota-aims-gasoline-cars.html
Between VW and now Toyota, the big automakers are signaling that we're now
officially at the end of the ICE era and that the transition to a post-ICE
world has begun.
Toyota's
On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:35 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV
wrote:
> Compared to EVs, they were noisy, stinky, and
> unreliable. The fuel was hard to get, and dangerous to store.
But there're a lot of big differences today. For one, the whole field of
vehicles was brand-new --
If this is to be believed...it could be absolutely huge! Anybody here have any
further information and / or insight?
http://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/10/vw-responds-to-diesel-scandal-says-the-future-is-electric/
If it turns out the way I'm sure all us here would hope it would, those "rogue
That was written a decade ago. Today, we've not only got the Volt and i3,
exactly the sorts of PHEVs he describes, but a decent selection of pure
electrics (like the Leaf) that are better than his beloved EV1.
...not to mention Teslas
b&
On Oct 15, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Something tells me this isn't to be taken at face value. It _reads_ as if
they're going to retrofit all existing ICE vehicles with batteries and electric
motors over the next two years. In all of India. I can't imagine India even
switching all new manufacturing to electric in two years...the
On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Peter Gabrielsson via EV wrote:
> If this is a permanent thing you might want to drive a ground rod next to
> the pedestal.
Even if not permanent, there're ways of creating grounds -- including driving a
rod or looking for something conductive
On Oct 4, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Limit it to just the time span of the EVDL.
On the contrary; limit it only to that which people willing to volunteer their
time are interested in contributing.
Sure, encourage people to step up for stuff you yourself
On Oct 3, 2015, at 12:19 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV
wrote:
> Anyone have thoughts on this idea?
You're absolutely right. _A_ wiki would be good for this sort of thing, but
_the_ Wikipedia is not the proper wiki.
Ironically enough, a well-established EVDL wiki could
On Sep 29, 2015, at 2:20 PM, rayfellow via EV wrote:
> A tribute to Tesla's market strategy is, the cost of batteries is relitively
> high now. If you're going to put them in a car, make it an expensive one ie.
> Tesla Model S or X.
This is another very important point.
On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:12 PM, rayfellow via EV wrote:
> The difference in per mile costs for an efficient EV vs a
> heavy user is still not all that much.
This is a _very_ significant part of the equation.
My parents recently bought a Leaf. They love it, can't stop talking
On Sep 23, 2015, at 5:51 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> And any fool can see that
> the utility is getting my solar at a time when they are PAYING more than
> 12 cents per kWh average and that I am taking it back out when their
> average cost is only 5 cents.
Yes -- the
On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Lee Hart <leeah...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Ben Goren via EV wrote:
>
>> Not just current state of the art...it's never going to be practical
>> for the four-door five-passenger freeway sedan that dominates the
>> roadways; there just i
On Sep 22, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> That's 1% to 4%. Better than most banks. And FAR better for the future
> since it displaces X amount of coal burning.
If that's your goal, _far_ better to put the panels on your rooftop and
backfeed into the grid
On Sep 22, 2015, at 11:46 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV
wrote:
> The autonomous onboard-PV EV is a sweet dream. Who wouldn't love to drive
> on pure sunshine and never have to fuel up or plug in? But at the current
> state of the art, that's your heart talking, not your
On Sep 22, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> Only if the Golf Cart and dump-pack are FULLY discharged every day.
Hmmm...I don't think that's quite right, but the basic point you make is a good
one. If the car has, say, a 300 mile range, and the fixed
On Aug 23, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
All these words and none to summarize why I would want to try to get it to
work.
It's just a short cellphone video clip of an hamster running in a wheel in the
rear trunk of a parked Tesla. Ha, ha. Next week it'll be a
On Aug 23, 2015, at 11:45 AM, John Lussmyer cou...@casadelgato.com wrote:
On Sun Aug 23 11:25:05 PDT 2015 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
Even the worst full-sized gasoline-powered motorcycle is going to get better
fuel economy than the best econobox
That particular part of your statement is
On Aug 23, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
If it merely 100% replaces a pedal-only bike, then clearly it is dirtier.
I can't help but think this is the perfect being the enemy of the good.
Even the worst full-sized gasoline-powered motorcycle is going to get
On Aug 23, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Willie2 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
It was quite hard to ride them slowly. I did get close to 50 mpg when I
could hold it to 50-55 mph.
Ah...well, I think my point is still proven -- at least, if you amend it to
include driving habits. The only full-sized
On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
But for 83% of us, it has dropped to Zero NOW. We aren't waiting.
In addition to this very important point, there's another equally-important
point to be made.
Coal is nasty, yes. But so is petroleum. And even those
On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Coal power is history. It is not
because of more strict regulations (even though the polluter pays would
have been nice for so many people suffering from the results of decades of
burning coal) but simply the
On Aug 5, 2015, at 8:18 AM, len moskowitz via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
60 pounds of battery for 1000 miles of range
Before you get too excited...these batteries are not rechargeable. They work by
combining the aluminum in the battery with atmospheric oxygen -- essentially,
they burn the
On Aug 4, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Alan Arrison via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
We already went round and round with this no self discharge, no BMS fellow
a few months ago.
Yes, we did.
I think a good analogy might be the Tire Pressure Monitoring System found in
every new car for ages. You could
On Jul 3, 2015, at 12:58 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I felt bad for them, Ms Jamil said, noting that the other seven Model S
sedans were unattended, a sign that their owners may be picking up items at
the nearby shopping center while their cars charged. The two drivers
On Jun 27, 2015, at 4:38 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Electric go-karts offer new thrill for youngsters at Acton track
The local kart racing facility is all electric. Lots of fun to drive, and a
much more pleasant experience than a gasoline-powered kart ride...I don't think
On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Roger Stockton via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
David's point, I believe is that the exercise of pitting a highly modified,
purpose-built drag racer against a production car is rather childish
Erm...I don't think you understand how these things work. I very, very
On Jun 24, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Chris Tromley via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I continue to be baffled by the drag guys' fascination with comparing a
highly - and specifically - modified
race car to a stock-and-standard high performance OEM car.
Teslas aren't why Weyland built the Zombies. I
On Jun 19, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Willie2 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I am curious as to how Paul came to his belief.
His methodology is inadequate to the task -- rather like using a roadside truck
scale to weigh the first four people to pass by and concluding that all humans
weigh exactly 200
On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:06 PM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Ben Goren via EV wrote:
_Every_ charger has a battery management system.
Only if you define BMS as Bare Minimum System.
Yes -- exactly my point.
The management might only be sufficient for shoving electrons into one side
On Jun 16, 2015, at 2:25 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I'm not understanding why you have a problem with Honda developing their line
based on consumer demand, or the most profit. Don't you understand that this
is how all the automakers compete, not to mention companies
On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:40 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
You do too. Yours is just manual. And that can work as long, as you're
thoroughly knowledgable and attentive.
That's the key point.
_Every_ charger has a battery management system. The only question is the
On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:40 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
Many of these guys actively LIKE -- deliberately PREFER -- the noise, stink,
and grime that their ICEVs produce. That may even be more important to them
than their actual performance. They really DO have
On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
I agree. This is a dead weight holding back sales of used conversions. For
many good reasons, lots of EV hobbyists convert old vehicles. The problem is
that when you go to sell, the vehicle is even older. And
On Jun 14, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
With the right pack this vehicle out range and perform any factory EV. It
will also be better when the factory EV is broken as it will be fixable by
the owner or any ev converter. The factory ev will cost big
So, I can imagine all sorts of ways that one might run air conditioning in an
electric vehicle, but I'm sure others have actually tried and done different
ways and likely figured out the best general approach.
Any of those others reading these words and care to point me in a good
direction?
On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:02 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Virtually
all of these 10 million jobs will be eliminated within 10-15 years, and this
list is by no means exhaustive.
This is the big wildcard -- and not just as it relates to vehicles, electric or
otherwise.
Not since
On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:02 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
How Uber's Autonomous Cars Will Reshape The Economy By 2025
By SeekingAlpha, May 31, 2015 By Zack Kanter
Couple more thoughts on this
First, I think there's still a logistical challenge to be faced with replacing
the
I think a lot of the gas folks really do get that. The problem is that,
especially in the more sprawling metropolises, their lives are built such that
a car with only a two gallon tank just isn't any use to them.
I have a good friend who lives in Surprise, Arizona, a suburb of Phoenix. She
On Jun 3, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Ed Blackmond via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
The guess-o-meter provides neither number.
Ignoring the guess-o-meter for the moment...how accurate is the remaining
charge meter? Can one use it mentally like one does the gas gauge on an ICE
vehicle? That is, if you
Thanks, everybody, for all the advice.
Sunday evening when I had dinner at their place, I set the car to only charge
to 80%. I also set the timer so that it'll finish charging by 6:00 am, thinking
that that was when their time-of-use plan kicked up to the higher rate. They
actually don't have
On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Yes, slow charging is just fine, in fact, better for the life of the
battery than fast charging. The reason they cannot recommend it is the
simply the *ergonomics* of customer expectations of the miles-to-go
gauge.
So, Dad just drove Mom home in a 2013 Leaf. ~12k miles, California vehicle;
couldn't tell it from new. There was one bar missing from the charge gauge; the
numeric meter read, 98%.
Everybody's excited. It should be well and truly perfect for them.
One thought I had that I'm hoping somebody
On May 31, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Charles Galpin cgal...@lhsw.com wrote:
Ben, do you mind sharing how much they paid? Leaf’s are getting pretty cheap
here too. There is a 2012 SV with 15k miles for $11k locally which is calling
my name.
The charge on my credit card -- including all taxes and
On May 31, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Jay Summet j...@summet.com wrote:
but proably not at all
worth the time/effort.
Ah, well. 'Twas a thought
My understanding is that the 20%-80% range is the
safe range.
Certainly makes things easier...take the time to charge to 80%, program the car
to
inside than out. Put a highly reflective coating on=20
the roof to reflect more sunlight. Sigh, all of these things cost=20
money...
Peri
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On May 31, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Jay Summet via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
The 2013 battery modules do have more air holes in them for passive
thermal heating than the 2011/2012 modules.
That sparks another interesting thought...would there be any particularly good
place to position a box fan to
On May 31, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Jay Summet via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
One place where Lithium may work better over Lead is for instant/auto
start/stop applications.
I would think that such systems will have a relatively short life in the design
studios. If you've got an hybrid of any
On May 31, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Lee Hart leeah...@earthlink.net wrote:
I don't say this with pride; I'm actually sad to see it work out this way.
It's just that our society creates an overwhelming pressure to keep doing the
Same Old Thing, no matter what, no matter how many better ideas come
So, this morning I help my parents finish putting in a bunch of sod in their
back yard. Afterwards, Dad followed up on a couple Web sites he's been looking
at and did a bit of math...and it seemed just possible that, with a trade-in
offer and Federal tax credits and all the rest, they might be
On May 30, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Paul Dove via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Same reason they can't ask for your text messages or phone information. You
need a court order
Has anybody bothered to tell that to the NSA? Or to the local law
enforcement agencies that work with the NSA on parallel
On May 30, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Mr23 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Isn't the NSA a bit beyond the EVDL's charter ?
The context is vehicles, especially new factory electric vehicles, with a full
suite of Big Brother spying equipment built into the car, hardware that we
already know reports back
On May 30, 2015, at 4:48 AM, Paul Dove via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Same reason they can't ask for your text messages or phone information. You
need a court order
Has anybody bothered to tell that to the NSA? Or to the local law enforcement
agencies that work with the NSA on parallel
On May 29, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Willie2 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I believe lithium is now about twice the price of lead for similar energy
storage capacity.
In general, we are rapidly approaching but not quite yet at the time when
lithium trumps lead for all use cases. Once Tesla's
On May 27, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
And don't forget the battery replacement cost - perhaps after 10 years or
70K miles?
It seems that batteries are lasting at least as long as ICE engines and
transmissions, and replacement new batteries are guaranteed
On May 27, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Solar at this time, where I live with low cost electrons ($0.10 /kWh), is
not a great investment without subsidies.
That's damned cheap electricity. And, at utility scales, the only thing cheaper
than solar these days
On May 26, 2015, at 11:37 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
Here's one: transparent inductive charging.
If we're dreaming, it's a wonderful dream. I don't think it's a very realistic
dream, but it's certainly wonderful.
As a bonus...going from inductive charging while
On May 18, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Willie2 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
The URL posted for the car indicates that the hub motor(s) are sprung.
Huh? How on Earth is _that_ supposed to work?
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On May 18, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Roland via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
If you use a open spoke wheel that allows air to go thru the wheel, it is
recommended to install a aluminum deflection plate about 0.125 inch thick
that goes between the wheel and the axil flange, to prevent the air to go
Maybe they have short axles and aren't truly hub motors?
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On May 18, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Michael Kadie via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
The correlation between weight and efficiency is true below 45 mph in general.
That makes sense, and it's good news for my PHEV conversions...all-electric
mode is going to be mostly around town and mostly at or below
On May 18, 2015, at 12:18 PM, paul dove via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
When I built mine I did a spread sheet.
Any chance you have a copy handy and would be willing to share?
Because of the nature of the project, I'm not overly worried about battery
range, but it's always better to refine
On May 18, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Lee Hart leeah...@earthlink.net wrote:
Ben Goren via EV wrote:
The URL posted for the car indicates that the hub motor(s) are sprung.
Huh? How on Earth is _that_ supposed to work?
One way is to have a long shaft on the motor. It acts like a swing axle, like
On May 10, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Danpatgal via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Low mile 2012 iMiev's are listed anywhere from $7.5 to $10k.
I planted the bug after I drove them back from the airport last night. We'll
see what, if anything it develops into...but I'm pretty sure it's now on their
short
Huh? Why the pessimism?
EVWest sells complete VW conversion kits, including a 22 kWh battery pack, for
$19K. That leaves 4K for the sled -- more than enough.
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On May 17, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Alan Arrison via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Good luck with that...
On 5/17/2015 3:00 AM, brucedp5
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