Re: [EVDL] EVLN: €749 Folkvänlig ebike offered starting in 2 Austrian IKEA stores

[Denis Boutet via EV]

Glad to hear that IKEA is being proactive.  Indeed IKEA is very pro-active 
toward the environment and social responsibility in general.  I know this first 
hand for having worked for them 16 years in QA that involved auditing 
suppliers for IKEA demands towards those environmental demands put on 
suppliers.  Unfortunately in China it is or was at the time another story. The 
demands were certainly put on suppliers BUT they played bonny certification 
games and catch me if you see me game.  Are you surprised?  But IKEA could not 
face not buying from China because the price differential was so big.  But they 
pushed I guess/hope after they closed down the purchasing office in Toronto for 
it loosing all its purchasing to China...

As for me this is probably the best thing that ever happened to me.  I left 
working for material orientated business to health care services and have never 
been so happy.  I am osteopath now and work for myself.

Thanks


Le 2014-05-24 à 07:44, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org a écrit :

 
 
 http://www.treehugger.com/bikes/ikea-offers-electric-bike-now-select-locations.html
 IKEA now offers electric bike (in select locations)
 Zachary Shahan  May 20, 2014 
 
 [images  / © IKEA
 http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2014/05/ikea-electric-bike-1.jpg
 
 http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2014/05/ikea-electric-bike-2.jpg
 ]
 
 IKEA is without a doubt one of the greenest large corporations on the
 planet. It has some flaws, but it is miles (or kilometers) ahead of just
 about every other large corporation that isn't specifically selling green
 products. It plans to get 100% of the energy it uses in its stores and
 buildings from clean energy by 2020 (and we're not talking about purchasing
 credits, but actual production). It recently announced a wind farm near
 Chicago that is projected to produce enough electricity that it could
 theoretically power 165% of its US operations, or 18% of its global
 operations. It also banned plastic bags back in 2008, long before that
 became a trend, and it will grow more wood than it uses by 2020.
 
 IKEA has also been a leader when it comes to selling clean technology. It
 now offers solar panels in the UK and it started phasing out incandescent
 light bulbs way back in 2010, replacing them with CFLs and LEDs. Now it's
 adding an electric bike to its catalog.
 
 Admittedly, the FOLKVÄNLIG electric bicycle IKEA is offering is only going
 to be available in two Austrian stores to start, but let's hope it doesn't
 take long for IKEA to bring it to more countries. With fast growth in
 electric bicycle sales around the world, I'd assume that's the plan.
 
 The cost of the FOLKVÄNLIG in the Vienna stores will be €749 (~$1,026). If
 you're an IKEA Family member, then you get €100 off. Male and female
 versions of the bike will be available. With a lightweight aluminum frame,
 the bike will come in at just about 27 kg (60 lbs). With light pedaling, the
 bike will have a range of 60 to 73 kilometers (37 to 45 miles). Sounds like
 a good electric bike, and I think it looks attractive as well.
 
 I'll be honest: because of its world-leading clean energy aims (and
 installations), its installation of electric vehicle charging stations at
 some locations (and presumably many more in the future), its cleantech
 offerings, and its plan to grow as much wood as it uses by 2020, I'm a big
 fan of IKEA. However, it does still sell a lot of non-green products,
 unfortunately, and it does have one other very notable Achilles heal. As
 Lloyd noted back in 2009, IKEA's stores are big box stores located out in
 auto-dependent suburbs. In other words, it is quite difficult to get to an
 IKEA without driving a car quite a distance. But perhaps if you buy an
 electric bike at IKEA you will be inspired to also ride it out there next
 time?
 
 Want to see this electric bike at your local IKEA store? Be sure to let
 IKEA know.
 [© treehugger.com]
 ...
 http://gas2.org/2014/05/15/the-ikea-folkvanlig-isnt-furniture-its-an-electric-bike/
 The IKEA “FOLKVÄNLIG” Isn’t Furniture, It’s An Electric Bike
 ...
 http://www.ebike-news.de/ikea-verkauft-eigenes-e-bike-namens-folkvaenlig/7278/
 [In German] Ikea verkauft eigenes E-Bike namens Folkvänlig
 Mai 12, 2014
 
 
 
 
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 http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-news/superfast-lightning-ls-218-electric-bike-to-be-revealed-soon-ar163592.html
 Superfast Lightning LS-218 electric bike to be revealed soon
 
 http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/xinhua-news-agency/140523/1-killed-2-injured-azerbaijani-amusement-park-accident
 1 killed, 2 injured in Azerbaijani amusement park e-car accident
 
 http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/05/16/14/japanese-e-vehicle-maker-expands-ph
 Japanese EV maker Terra Motors has raised $10M to expand in Philippines
 
 

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014 i-MiEV, most affordable EV in America arrives this spring

[Denis Boutet via EV]

I think you mean it arrives in USA.  Here in Canada we have the iMiev selling 
for over a year now.

Take care,
Denis

Le 2014-05-23 à 10:30, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org a écrit :

 Thanks for your reference data.  We do have a milder climate in Seattle but
 the tradeoff is you need to run defrost - so heat and A/C are on.  And often
 the windshield wipers and lights.
 
 On the highway (up to 55-60mph) the Leaf does quite well.  It sucks in city
 driving, which is mostly what I do.  So it's quite possible the iMiev would
 do better for me.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Danpatgal via EV
 Sent: 23 May, 2014 7:20 AM
 To: ev@lists.evdl.org
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014 i-MiEV, most affordable EV in America arrives
 this spring
 
 In 2012 when I bought our iMiev, it was over $8k less than the Leaf (just
 before the S version came out), so that was a big difference for me.  Once
 the S Leaf was introduced, it was closer in price, but was stripped of some
 items the iMiev had (better regen, quick charge) that the iMiev still seemed
 like a better value.  For 2014 the iMiev is the clear price leader, unless
 you can survive with a two-seater / or absolutely need a five-seater.
 
 Peri - Winter and highway speeds do suck the iMiev's range.  I'm pretty
 spartan with heat, and don't generally go on the highway, so could always
 squeeze 50 miles in winter, but we also had a really bad winter (1-2 months
 with temps often around 10-20 F) in PA, so more mild climates (not sure
 where you are), would be easier to manage over 50 miles generally.  If
 you're doing mostly highway + cold in your Leaf to get 50-55, the iMiev is
 probably 10 less than that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 http://www.evalbum.com/3854
 
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

[Denis Boutet via EV]

If the population REALLY wants them to stop they will stop.  

Envoyé de mon iPhone

 Le 2014-05-30 à 11:59, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org a écrit :
 
 So, not content with 100 years of greed-fueled destruction of the earths 
 atmosphere through the squandering of a very finite resource, just when 
 progress is being made to progress Humanity down a more responsible road to a 
 cleaner and more sustainable future for us and and the Earth in general, Big 
 Oil comes along and says No!  You don't want to do it like that!  Lets do 
 the same thing all over again and cause earthquakes, rising sea levels, 
 destruction of ground water systems and an even more poisonous atmosphere.  
 Sounds like the plot from '2012'.  
 
 And... I think I just outed myself publicly as an official tree-hugger.  MW
 
 
 On 28 May 2014, at 20:23, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
 
 So - NC will experience increasing earthquake activity (other regions
 are living this already) and contamination of groundwater sources
 (people can no longer use the wells that they have been drinking from
 for decades),
 in addition to a rise of fuel prices - that Martin hinted at.
 
 Cor van de Water
 Chief Scientist
 Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
 Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info
 Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
 via EV
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:51 AM
 To: Martin WINLOW; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT
 
 I live in North Carolina - they are getting ready to frack in very
 uncertain geology here. That is what will happen next.
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV
 ev@lists.evdl.orgwrote:
 
 A Financial Times article a couple of weeks back was saying that $1T
 of
 recent investment in shale oil and gas extraction will never se a
 profit -
 due to too low oil and gas prices.  Guess what's going to happen next?
 MW
 
 
 On 27 May 2014, at 07:02, Jan Steinman via EV wrote:
 
 From: Michael Ross [mailto:michael.e.r...@gmail.com]
 
 Can we really disregard the energy cost of all those other items
 making
 up the totla cost?
 
 No! It's a totally essential concept!
 
 I think the Hummer versus Prius example was probably contrived and
 skewed, but the concept of energy cost accounting is something we
 don't do
 enough of these days.
 
 For example, some energy cost analysis indicates that some shale oil
 costs as much as $120/barrel to produce, although the market rate is
 only
 $100/barrel. Some studies even suggest that some shale oil well use
 more
 energy than they will ever produce.
 
 For more info, look into emergy, a concept rigorously developed by
 Howard (HT) Odum.
 
  The more the work is left to nature, the greater the net yield
 but
 the longer the time required... Thus sometimes the most apparently
 productive and high-yielding sources of energy involve a lot of
 activity
 for little return, while long-term investments, especially in
 naturally
 grown forests, provide the greatest value for future generations. --
 David
 Holmgren
  Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op 
 
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Re: [EVDL] leaf blowers

[Denis Boutet via EV]

Leafs should be picked up, with a sucking tool (that should be electric) that 
shreds them for compost purposes.  Then the compost can be used on the city's 
floral arrangements around town.  Think for a second a neighborhood where every 
household had a leaf blower...  What a fight that would make! ;-) Yes it is off 
topic, excuse me to respond

Le 2014-07-24 à 00:09, Rush Dougherty via EV ev@lists.evdl.org a écrit :

 This is a little off subject, but personally I detest Leaf Blowers all 
 they
 do is push the dirt/leaves into the air and off of your property on to my
 property. I put it in the same category as littering.
 
 Rush
 www.TucsonEV.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:16 PM
 To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
 Subject: [EVDL] leaf blowers
 
 My city (Seattle) is studying leaf blower noise and other mal effects and is
 interested in the viability of electric powered models.  I have the
 opportunity to
 help supply them with information and am wondering if anyone has any 
 knowledge
 or other info on what electric powered models are available and suitable for
 professional use.  Any studies by other jurisdictions, such as a lifetime 
 cost
 comparison between gas and electric, would be welcome too.
 
 Since this is off topic, please respond to me directly.
 
 Peri
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Re: [EVDL] Lithium battery setpoints...

[Denis Boutet via EV]

Hello Zeke

You must first make sure cells are well in balance by some sort of equalization 
procedure which involve shunting current from higher voltage cells to the 
others.  Charger is cutoff when a cell reaches above a max set voltage, like 
3,65V for example on my Ranger EV.

Does your BMS monitor each cell individually?  Is shunting capability installed?

In operation, in my experience, if terminals on cells are not well tightened, 
voltage will fluctuate too low (current demand) or too high in regen.

380 Amps looks amazing high to me.  I never go above 150Amps myself with my 
Ranger EV (104 x 100Ah cells LIFePO4 HighPower) or one of the cells reached 
below 2,6V.  The problem is always worst when I skip equalization, which I have 
to do manually on my truck.

I think what is needed is a monitoring of each cell for voltage, not on total 
Amps for the pack.  To me this data is not relevant.  As long as all cells stay 
above your set point, be it 2,9 or ??? it is fine, 

In my opinion

Denis





Le 2014-07-29 à 19:43, Zeke Yewdall via EV ev@lists.evdl.org a écrit :

 I am programming the BMS, and am wondering what opinions people have on the
 sepoints for the BMS, specifically for discharging.
 
 24 CALB cells, 100AH, Alltrax 450 controller, DC6.7 motor, 1973 VW bug.
 Elithion Lithiumate Lite BMS.
 
 I did the first serious road test this morning,  Default setttings were
 100A continous, and 300A peak for the BMS to start regulating.  2.9 volt
 was the low voltage cutoff, with 2.5 volts being the drop dead voltage.
 
 It was doing pretty good for about 15 miles (60AH or so).  It would cut out
 under hard acceleration (380 amps or so) and kill the power to the
 controller.  Under sustained uphill (200 amps or so) it would also cut out
 after a while, and would also engage the throttle limiting to keep it to
 100A or so.   I would like to set it to 150A continuous, but not sure if
 this risks damaging the battery.  It's going to live in a much flatter
 place than I was doing the test, so maybe 100A is okay.
 
 The big problems started about 18 miles in -- one battery started going
 under 2.9 volts under accelleration, and by 19 miles in, it was severely
 limiting current to keep it above 2.7 volts or so -- went to only about 30
 amps, which was essentially undriveable.  I either have one cell badly out
 of balance (what I'm hoping for), or that's only got about 70AH capacity
 instead of 100.  If I can correct this one cell and bring it up to what all
 the others are doing, am I safe in raising the current limits a little, if
 I keep the voltage controls the same?
 
 Opinions?
 
 Thanks
 
 Zeke
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Vs UK's Ecotricity Dispute - MoreBackgroundInformation...

[Denis Boutet via EV]

Hi Cor,

Just wondering if you considered changing your charger instead.  Have you seen 
those?
http://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/7344653/7638123.htm

Denis


Le 2014-08-09 à 20:11, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org a écrit :

 One of the reasons that I am very excited about the new crypto payment
 methods - the idea of a ledger block-chain protected by cryptography
 and distributed (copied) among thousands of locations is secure but it
 does not support the virtual monopoly that banks have created for
 themselves.
 Everyone can use it, independent from location, background, ... to store
 and send money almost instantly to any locatoin where there is internet.
 
 But let's get back to EV technology - I plan to increase the max
 charging rate on my truck, so it can charge faster from 240V. I have
 already made a J1772 compatible cable that will trick the EVSE to
 deliver power and it even tells the EVSE to stop charging as soon as you
 press the button on the handle. But my current charger cannot do more
 than about 2kW so charging time is almost as slow on 240V as on 110. On
 top of that, many J1772 EVSE are connected to 208V and at that voltage,
 my charger is actually slower than when plugging into a 120V outlet.
 So, I will add some power supplies modified with current limit, to act
 as chargers in addition to the existing charger and these will only run
 when plugging into 240V. I will keep my NEMA 5-15 plug on my vehicle, so
 that I can litterally charge anywhere, greatly extending the range and
 utility of my truck.
 
 Regards,
 
 Cor van de Water
 Chief Scientist
 Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
 Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info
 Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Goren [mailto:b...@trumpetpower.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 3:57 PM
 To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Vs UK's Ecotricity Dispute -
 MoreBackgroundInformation...
 
 On Aug 9, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
 wrote:
 
 Have you ever been customer of a US bank?
 I was totally shocked when I came to the USA, fed my new ATM card into
 the nearest machine and was asked to pay several dollars convenience
 fee just to pull my money out of the machine, simply because it was
 not
 the same bank as where I had my account.
 
 In my book, such fees are usury, and can easily add up to
 credit-card-level charges for poor people just for the privilege of
 using the bank to keep their money safe. It's a terrible social
 injustice, and I have no idea how it's managed to persist.
 
 If the same sort of thing happens with EV charging stations, what today
 holds great potential for financial independence could instead turn into
 yet another barrier holding the disadvantaged in place.
 
 If anybody reading these words is in a position to slow down or stop
 these kinds of practices, *now* is the time to do something about it,
 before it's too late
 
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Re: [EVDL] Canadian EVDL members

[Denis Boutet via EV]

Hello Jukka,

I use à 240V Avcon for my Ford Ranger EV 2000.  It is an old standard as you 
might know.

Denis Boutet
Contrecoeur, Qc

> Le 4 juil. 2016 à 05:35, Jukka Järvinen via EV  a écrit :
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> I'm pushing one of my startups to Canada. It's about EV charging.
> 
> I would like to ask all Canadian EV users to help me with some research
> about the charging infrastructures at home.
> 
> Specifically outlets and voltages are in interest.
> 
> Please send me off list some information what kind of outlets you use for
> charging.
> 
> BR,
> Jukka
> 
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[EVDL] J1772

[Denis Boutet via EV]

Hi EV enthousiasts!

Am looking for a J1772 male connector and wire to add to my existing charging 
station.  As well am looking for a 240V charging station - new or used, to 
install at my work place.  I live in the Grand Montreal area.  Feel free ton 
contact me if you have one for sale or if you know anyone.  Thanks!


Denis Boutet
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Re: [EVDL] Alberta.ca's EV sales= low-priority> left further in the dust from petro.ca pride

[Denis Boutet via EV]

Hello Josh,

The situation in Québec is much different.  At the end of june more than 52 000 
VEs are on our roads, compared to 112 000 for Canada.  As for infrastructure, 
it has been a political goal to electrifiy Québec for a few years, and as a 
result, at the end of june we had - according to AVÉQ - 4466 J1772 & Tesla 
charging stations, 157 Tesla Super Chargers, and 292 CHAdeMO / SAE Combo.  New 
stations are being built all the time.  I think they said now about 1% of all 
cars in Québec are electric or plugin hybrid.

Québec offers up to 8000$ subsidy on a new electric car, plus the new Federal 
subsidy of up do 5000$ makes it 13K$ for a new electric car.

If you read French I recommend 
https://www.aveq.ca/capsules-dinfo--pollution--calculatrice-coucircts.html 


Have an electrifying day!

Denis Boutet
La Vérité te libérera



> Le 15 sept. 2019 à 10:50, Josh L via EV  a écrit :
> 
> 
> fwiw, I think some (but perhaps not all) of these conditions
> exist in large portions of the North American continent.  At
> least, near where I live, the dealers still do not sell plug-in
> vehicles.  Yes, a few Teslas and such are popping up (though
> very slowly) and you can go 70 miles away to go to a Chevy
> dealer or the like for a BEV or PHEV, but it's not very close
> by, and there is almost no public charge infrastructure.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 12:12:22 -0500 (CDT), brucedp5 via EV
>  you wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ev-sales-alberta-falls-behind-1.5230776
>> Want to buy an EV? Slow down there, we're in Alberta
>> Aug 01, 2019  Sarah Lawrynuik
>> 
>> [image  
>> https://i.cbc.ca/1.5231077.1564527248!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/tesla-model-x.jpg
>> A Tesla Model X parked on Lake Minnewanka near Banff, Alta. (Adam
>> Eustace/Electric Vehicle Association of Alberta)
>> ]
>> 
>> Legislation in other provinces is ensuring electric sales in Alberta aren’t
>> a priority
>> 
>> If you are one of the few Albertans itching to join the electric vehicle (or
>> plug-in hybrid) club, you will find an altogether different car buying
>> experience from what you've been used to before.
>> 
>> At some dealerships you'll find salespeople climbing into the car with you
>> for a test drive with the car's manual in hand — because they've never been
>> in one of these cars either. At another, you'll be told you can't test drive
>> their EV models because the manufacturer isn't sending any to Alberta. You
>> can still buy it, but it will have to be sight unseen — and the wait for it
>> to arrive could be well into 2020.
>> 
>> If you're in the market for an EV, you might be inclined to visit a Kia
>> dealership to check out the Niro EV or the Soul EV, since they are two of
>> the most moderately priced, mid-sized EVs on the market. But that will only
>> lead you to learn that Kia is not currently selling any electric models in
>> Alberta, nor are they offering service for EVs if you actually go through
>> the effort to buy one of their cars out of province. 
>> 
>> As an explanation for this strategic decision, Kia Canada communications
>> manager Mark James said that as supply of vehicles grows, the company will
>> be expanding into new markets, but for now, Alberta isn't a priority.
>> 
>> "Right now we focus the limited availability of product on those markets
>> that not only offer incentives to consumers but also offer the required
>> infrastructure to support the vehicles," James said in an email. 
>> 
>> All of this begs the question: How has Alberta fallen so far behind?
>> 
>> Incentives, quotas and petro pride
>> 
>> In the first quarter of 2019, the total number of electric vehicles on the
>> road in Canada cracked 100,000. The number in this province is just over
>> 2,200. 
>> 
>> [image]  Approx. total Canadian EV ownership by province
>> 
>> Alberta does not have any government incentives in place to encourage the
>> move to EVs or plug-in hybrids (PHEVs). This stands in contrast to Quebec,
>> which offers up to $8,000; and B.C., where rebate incentives can hit $3,000. 
>> 
>> Ontario used to offer up to $14,000, but that was scrapped by the Ford
>> government after it was elected in 2018.
>> 
>> So, despite the federal [.ca] government offering incentives of up to $5,000
>> from coast to coast, the rebate opportunities are not equal across
>> provinces. 
>> 
>> [image]  EV sales by province
>> 
>> There are a handful of reasons beyond Alberta's lack of a rebate program
>> that have caused the lag in sales here. The first thing that might come to
>> mind is the Alberta pride in the oil and gas industry; the rise of
>> petro-patriotism, as coined by Maclean's. 
>> 
>> "There's a mentality here that somewhat naturally opposes EV ownership
>> because they're perceived — whether true or not — as a threat to the oil and
>> gas industry because oil is used for transportation fuels and 

Re: [EVDL] Electric Cars vs Small Electric Trucks (made of Unobtanium)

[Denis Boutet via EV]

Hi Mark,
I have a Ford Ranger EV 2000 which was converted to LFP batteries.  About 600 
remain in NA, some for sale.  Might be of interest to you.
Take care

Denis Boutet
La Vérité te libérera



> Le 9 juill. 2020 à 09:47, Mark Hanson via EV  a écrit :
> 
> 
>> The Tesla 3 is a nice long range car or Chevy Bolt etc   It’s more of a 
>> direct fit to make an electric car since most folks have a fixed mission 
>> profile, back and forth to work everyday with a few side errands.  A truck 
>> is hard, the distance is usually variable and the load (either hauling or 
>> dragging) is variable cutting the range in half.   Not sure how that will 
>> work in the open market, probably why they have to put in a *huge* battery 
>> with a huge price tag (also making the truck big).  Guess I’m stuck with my 
>> smaller old gas Ford Ranger for awhile, don’t want a bulky energy wasteful 
>> behemoth. 
>> Best regards
>> Mark
>> 
>> Sent from my solar powered iPhone
>>> 
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Re: [EVDL] Ego vs Greenworks?

[Denis Boutet via EV]

Hi everyone, any one have experience with Stihl?

Denis

Le 20-06-24 à 13 h 19, EVDL Administrator via EV a écrit :

I've owned a total of 4 E-mowers (not counting the Elec-traks) so far since
1994 - a B, two Yard Machines (MTD), and a Greenworks.

The B lasted the longest, but I had to replace the motor and the wheels.
Eventually the replacement motor died too, and since the plastic deck was
starting to crack from age and hard use, I gave up on it.  But at least
spare parts were mostly available, and usually at reasonable prices.

The MTDs' motors both failed too.  The official factory motors were priced
over $300, more than the entire mowers cost, so the mowers were essentially
disposable.

Probably the Greenworks will prove to be disposable too.  It's a cheap and
cheerful Chinese mower.

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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[EVDL] Battery Pack drained completely

[Denis Boutet via EV]

Hello everyone,

RE: Ranger EV 2000, LiFePO4 pack 104x3.65V China HiPower, 104 Mini BMS + 
head board, CellLog8 x 13


I need help figuring out what is wrong and how to proceed with this 
problem.  Any help, suggestion will be greatly appreciated.


The pack seams to have been drained completely by the mini BMS system, 
or another cause.  In the fall, the head board alarm went off 
permanently as I was winterizing my truck.  This spring I found the pack 
was dead.  Find listed here the codes from the NGS:


BAT_PV     0.00V

BCM_OP      2

PREV_OS      7

CCNT   4

ENG_PO    DISABL

LOWVOLT    0

MAINSEN 2,5v

SOC    49.99%

WKDFBMF    NO

BTM_1FT - BTM_39FT YES  (ALL)

LEAK  NO  (9 Ohm)

Next step I beleive is to drop the pack and try and find the faulty mini 
BMS.  I guess I won't see any green lights, since the pack is dead.


Many thanks for your interest

Denis B

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