Re: [EVDL] Towing 4 wheels down Spark EV or Leaf

2016-11-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Have you tried asking thie question on one of the net forums dedicated to the Spark EV? Regardless of where you find the answer, please report back. Thanks, David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information:

Re: [EVDL] Selling an EV on EBay

2016-11-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 Nov 2016 at 13:21, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > I'm curious if this is normal. On 21 Nov 2016 at 13:21, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > I'm curious if this is normal. No, it's not. This guy is trying to rip you off. This sounds like the fake money order / cashier's check scam. Paste into

Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car

2016-11-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Nov 2016 at 10:56, David "Battery Boy" Hawkins via EV wrote: > I'm assuming EVerybody caught this story about the Alliance of Automobile > Manufacturers, which includes GM and Toyota? 'Fraid so. :-( Threads started on the 11th and 12th:

Re: [EVDL] Sold-out: $49mo, $0dwn 500e EV deal @Costa_Mesa-CA dealer> ends after Sunday

2016-11-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 27 Nov 2016 at 23:56, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The yelp listing for that dealership is good. LA shoppers would not rate > that high if the dealership had shady practices like bait and switch. Thanks for looking into this. That said, though I don't know about LA, around here, I've found

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161121

2016-11-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 Nov 2016 at 16:42, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > OK, so stay away from the current (defunct) jstraubel (dot) com website My computer didn't do anything strange at that URL, but I also run Noscript and have a large hosts file blocking most malware sites. I did see a script listed for

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

2016-11-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 Nov 2016 at 14:24, paul dove via EV wrote: > The analysis showed that, based on reported incidents, hybrids are no > more dangerous to pedestrians than other vehicles, and little variation > exists in how and why blind or sighted pedestrians die in vehicular > incidents. Ah, but we can't

Re: [EVDL] Cheap L2 charging in parking places: Bolt EV'sIn Production

2016-11-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Nov 2016 at 15:38, ROBERT via EV wrote: > I guess concern about people misusing public NEMA receptacles does have some > merit or a least in India. v.gd/BOrzpV (that's a URL -- copy and paste into your browser) terrylove.com/forums/index.php?threads/electrical-wiring-in-india.5074

Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs

2016-11-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Is anyone in the least surprised by this? Asia and the EU continue to adopt EVs. There are even some smaller areas that seek to convert to a 100% EV fleet. The US automakers are essentially saying "No thanks, we don't want to sell cars there." Their loss. I've said this before, but it bears

Re: [EVDL] Cheap L2 charging in parking places: BoltEV'sInProduction

2016-11-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Thanks for fixing my URL. Sorry, I did leave off the trailing digit when pasting it into the message. India is not alone in having electrical chaos. It's that way in a dismaying number of less well developed nations. No innovation-stifling regulation! David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL

Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA ...

2016-11-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
History tells us that -- for better and/or worse -- what governments do makes a big difference in whether EVs advance or retreat. Bruce is 100% correct that GM's specific history predicts their current and future involvement with EVs. As I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm still waiting for

Re: [EVDL] Noise

2016-11-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Nov 2016 at 14:50, wayne alexander via EV wrote: > The 86 was so quite I put a very small green light next to the key to > remind me it was running..you just could not hear it at all . Maybe you inside the car couldn't, but what about pedestrians outside on the street and sidewald? In

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

2016-11-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Nov 2016 at 12:40, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: > Make one 2 ft or so from the curb that will stop the phone from > working and say something both audibly and visually ... I can just see this: You're reporting an emergency to 911 and you get cut off. You're recording a cop beating

Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car

2016-11-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Nov 2016 at 11:43, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > If China and India and Europe and several countries of S America and > Asia are moving to electric transportation then it is pretty irrelevant > what happens in USA ... I wouldn't go so far as to say "irrelevant," because the US is (at

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Volt in long term storage?

2016-10-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Storing it with the traction battery at 50% or so is in accord with usual good practice for lithium batteries. I would not suggest storing it at full charge, especially if it's going to be in a warm-to-hot storage facility. I would be at least as concerned, if not more so, about the ICE

Re: [EVDL] How cum zit? cid #'s added to nabble-archived URLs > fail to open links

2016-10-31 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I did some further investigation of this. I am NOT seeing the extraneous glop on the end of the URL which Bruce describes in the status bar of the following browsers: Seamonkey 2.33.1, Firefox 45.0.2, Opera 12.16, and Midori 0.2.2. I AM seeing the ";cid=" junk in the status bar of the

Re: [EVDL] 2nd life for lithium batteries

2016-10-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Oct 2016 at 6:14, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > If you assume that the amount of gold used is the same as amount of silver > used (it's actually much less), then using gold is actually *cheaper* than > using silver if the battery lasts 400 times longer True, but maybe immaterial for EV

Re: [EVDL] 2nd life for lithium batteries

2016-10-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 16 Oct 2016 at 15:57, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > It is hard to knock a battery with nearly infinite cycles. Unless you're a battery manufacturer ... A battery that never needs to be replaced would be a real game changer for the business. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think any

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161206

2016-12-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 6 Dec 2016 at 3:24, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > General Motors Co. stands to lose as much as $9,000 on every Chevrolet Bolt > that leaves a showroom once the all-electric subcompact starts rolling out ... I was under the impression that most entirely new cars (regardless of their motive source)

Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Dec 2016 at 22:41, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > I guess this is how "fake news" originates. You could say that, but the term "fake news" is just a new name for an ancient problem: propaganda. Wealthy and influential people and institutions don't take well to change when it might affect

Re: [EVDL] OT: Re: Leafs too cheap

2016-12-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 Dec 2016 at 17:13, paul dove via EV wrote: > Typically, the full range of hearing can be reproduced using the frequencies > from 20 Hz to 20 KHz. Sound must be sampled at least double the highest > frequency present that needs to be reproduced, 44.1k (twice 20 kHz plus a > little extra)

Re: [EVDL] What is a compliance car? : ... Volt/Prius ...

2017-01-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Jan 2017 at 18:23, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Since the Chevy Volt has the longest EV range of > every one of the 15 plug-in hybrids now on the market it diserves a very > definite distinctive nomenclature. > > All the other plug-in hybrids are basically hybrids with a slightly bigger

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1231c physical disassembly (China and US Coal)

2017-01-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Folks, sorry to be a nag, but please try to stay on topic. No doubt China's power generation is an important topic, but unless you connect it with EVs, please discuss it in offlist (private) email. Thanks, David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170112

2017-01-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Jan 2017 at 3:09, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Chevrolet Delivered 579 Bolt EVs In December 2016 The Bolt's first delivery was on 13 December. So if we extrapolate those sales to the entire month, that would be 997 cars. They're just flying out the doors, folks! To put this in

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170101

2017-01-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 1 Jan 2017 at 12:26, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > And, [the Citicar] was the cheapest car in America! That may have been true for the very earliest ones, but the Citicar that Consumer Reports tested in 1975 cost them $2946. That included $90 for a heater (!) and $36 for a spare tire (!).

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170101

2017-01-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 1 Jan 2017 at 14:54, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > The ABS plastic [used in C-cars] actually held up pretty well, > considering its age. The main problem was UV damage from the sun. > Painting it goes a long way towards protecting it. Jim Tervort, who took over C-car support for a while in the

Re: [EVDL] Electrical Safety...

2017-01-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Jan 2017 at 7:57, Jim Walls via EV wrote: > This list is set up so that replies go to the originator rather than back to > the list. Well, not exactly. The "reply to list" flag is indeed set on the EVDL software. However, there are some email clients that still want to direct the reply

Re: [EVDL] Electrical Safety...

2017-01-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Jan 2017 at 15:29, Matthew Quitter via EV wrote: > Tried replying to a couple of conversations and it didn't work. Sorry about that. Like everything else connected to email these days, the EVDL has spam filters. And like all spam filters, sometimes they get a little over-enthusiastic

Re: [EVDL] Electrical Safety...

2017-01-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Jan 2017 at 12:01, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Batteries can deliver enormous short-circuit currents. This is where I refer you to the story of how former EVDLer John "Plasma Boy" Wayland got his nickname (short version). http://evdl.org/pages/plasmaboy.html Please read it! It could save

Re: [EVDL] Recent Model EV Conversion - CAN and accesories to work..

2017-01-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Jan 2017 at 21:43, Marco Gaxiola via EV wrote: > Collin; I think it is ok to advertise as long it is usefull to people > on this forum, like me. Advertise? No. Announce? Maybe. The EVD is non-commercial. That means no advertising as such. However, discussing your products and/or

Re: [EVDL] Recent Model EV Conversion - CAN and accesories to work..

2017-01-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Jan 2017 at 21:43, Marco Gaxiola via EV wrote: > I think it is ok to advertise as long it is usefull to people on this > forum ... Advertise? No. Announce? Maybe. The EVDL is non-commercial. That means no advertising as such. However, discussing your products and/or services in a

Re: [EVDL] Forklift Battery Options?

2017-01-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Before condemning the battery you should check a few things. First make sure the charger is actually charging it -- in particular, that it's delivering its rated current. Then cycle the battery a few times (run it flat and recharge it). Many times you can get back a surprising amount of

Re: [EVDL] Blew my Curtis 1231C Controller - repair procedures?

2017-01-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 2 Jan 2017 at 11:43, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > The problem is that an EV controller leads a very hard life. Shock, > vibration, heat, cold, water, dirt, very high current surges, voltage spikes, > and time will eventually do it in. Curtis primarily makes golf car controllers, which don't have

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170101

2017-01-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
> The result is a vehicle that closely resembles the Isetta of old, just > a bit bigger and rounder ... 15-kilowatt electric motor ... The > Microlino tops out at 62 mph, goes 60 to 75 miles on a charge, and > weighs just 880 pounds ... It will cost somewhere between $9,000 and > $13,500 ...

Re: [EVDL] Recent Model EV Conversion - CAN and accesories to work..

2017-01-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 Jan 2017 at 9:14, Marco Gaxiola via EV wrote: > I'm sorry, I did not picked the right word/phrase. (maybe say, 'thank > you for refer/recommend your product'...) No problem, it's all OK! The word "advertising" can mean different things to different people. ;-) David Roden - Akron,

Re: [EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ...

2016-12-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 23 Dec 2016 at 2:01, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Bolt-EV-experience-td4685003.html Well written, Bruce. Thanks for posting this. > Question: would I buy a Bolt at this time. No, because I want to wait > and compare with what my $30k

Re: [EVDL] Shorted FB1-4001A DC motor?

2016-12-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 27 Dec 2016 at 16:41, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > I used a 18 ga lamp cord in place of the fuse and tried to spin the > motor in neutral. Try a larger wire. Remember that 1400+ amp starting surge. You might also try "pre-spinning" the motor to reduce the starting surge. I wouldn't give

Re: [EVDL] Level 1 charging battery

2016-12-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Dec 2016 at 12:41, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote: > Does anyone know of a single source for both an "ebike pack" with > charger and inverter? Barring that, I am considering an ebike > battery/charger and an inverter Do I understand you correctly -- that you're looking for a supplemental

Re: [EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

2016-12-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Dec 2016 at 23:32, David Nelson via EV wrote: > What is the actual sustained current carrying ability of the NEMA > L6-30 plug/sockets? I may be proven wrong, but I don't think you're going to get a definitive answer to this question. The manufacturer and vendors will tell you it's 30

[EVDL] Spanish EV charging (was J1772 might not go to a low level ...)

2016-12-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Dec 2016 at 14:56, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > ... the 2011/2012 Leaf ... is specifically aimed at the European situation > where most plugs and circuits are rated and fused to 230V 16A which > means a max 3.7kW so a 3.3kW charger maxes out a standard wall plug in > Europe ... This

Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

2016-12-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Dec 2016 at 19:42, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > I have been charging the 30kw Leaf for hours now and still not tripped the > breaker here in Modesto ... I take it this is 240v, so you have a 125 amp breaker? That's what you would need to deliver 30kw. I assume that's wired directly

Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

2016-12-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Dec 2016 at 13:03, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Even though the (cold-exposed) breaker might not trip, please remember the > purpose of the breaker is to protect the *wire* after the breaker from > overload. The breaker is also intended to protect the receptacle and connected

Re: [EVDL] Testing Curtis controller on side of road?

2016-12-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
12 volts might not be enough to energize the Curtis logic circuits properly. An incandescent light bulb (40-150 Watt) is your friend. First, connect it across the controller input terminals. If it lights at all, it should be just for a short time. (You are making sure the capacitors inside

Re: [EVDL] Testing Curtis controller on side of road?

2016-12-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 27 Dec 2016 at 13:06, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > Unfortunately, this probably means I have a motor short It measured 0.1 > ohms, which seems a bit too low for an FB1-4001A. Don't assume the worst yet! I've never actually measured the armature resistance of a series motor, but that

Re: [EVDL] Shorted FB1-4001A DC motor?

2016-12-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 27 Dec 2016 at 14:31, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > I really don't want to test by blowing another fuse if there is a > cheaper alternative I hear you there! That's why I recommend a circuit breaker instead of a fuse, or at least in addition to the (higher current rated) fuse. I'm a little

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161220

2016-12-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Dec 2016 at 1:36, via EV wrote: > I get quite a few errors on the nabble links posted by Bruce.  I just > highlight the title and paste in Google and a good link comes up! Bruce's links work for me, but they go to the Nabble archive post, not to the original source. Once you get to

Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors

2016-12-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Dec 2016 at 10:10, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > A software glitch in the THINK CITY made the mistake of leaving the 4 > kW heater possibly on, so that on the third step above, the 4kW is > trying to go through a 5W 47 ohm resistor and it blows up. This kills > the car, and all

Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors (THINKS)

2016-12-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Dec 2016 at 12:33, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > a 4kw plasma engulfs a... board full of surface mount high density > electronics ...the board is completely inaccessible and the entire 700 > lb battery box has to be removed from the car from below to get at it. Ouch. :-( To prevent

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the “smartest” 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Dec 2016 at 17:25, damon henry via EV wrote: > transmissions ... are not generally necessary on vehicles engineered > from the ground up as electric ... Absolutely. And the Smart was originally conceived in the mid-1990s as an EV. Satch's Nicholad Hayek proposed a tiny electric runabout

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

2016-12-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 6 Dec 2016 at 20:36, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I also downloaded a copy of it, which I could post to the EVDL, but I'm > not sure where. Normally you'd post something like that on a publicly-open filesharing server and post a link. If you can't do that, you can email it to me as an

Re: [EVDL] Nissan Leaf "Needs Batteries"

2017-03-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Mar 2017 at 20:51, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > "Nissan Leaf - Needs Batteries" I'm no expert, but at $2400 it ounds like a pretty decent deal, if you have the chops to rebuild or replace the battery yourself. If you have to pay a dealer to do it, e, I'm not so sure. This brings

Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 8 Mar 2017 at 6:50, paul dove via EV wrote: > To me it is quite understandable why automobile manufacturers do not want to > make electric vehicles. If I have a company making something I wouldn't want > to government to tell me I had to make something else. Of course! Nobody wants to be

Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's

2017-03-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
The first part of this is off topic, but I'll eventually bring it back to EVs, so hang on. Many folks here probably know about the part that IBM played in early PCs, but some may not realize that IBM was pretty late to the small computer party. The IBM PC didn't hit the market until the

Re: [EVDL] 800mi Bolt trip ... (San Jose<>LA on ccs)

2017-03-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This author complains about a lot of niggling little issues with the car, but if you discard all the literary indignation, there's really only one usable fact in the article: There aren't yet as many places to charge an EV as there are ICEV filling stations. When you know this, doing an 800

Re: [EVDL] Tesla cell size

2017-04-14 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 13 Apr 2017 at 22:04, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > A cylinder only has to be oriented for polarity, it > can have any radial orientation. We had a rather similar discussion here many years ago (20?) about Optima lead batteries, which used (and still use) cylindrical cells. This thread has

Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This appears to be another case of an author or editor who decides in advance what outcome he (or the corporate sponsor) desires, and then tailors the data and analysis to reach that conclusion. The tl;dr: money talks. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] Electric vehicle subsidies: expensive and ineffective?

2017-08-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Aug 2017 at 16:27, Dan Baker via EV wrote: > From their site it's hard to tell where there funding comes from, they do list > their funding as 27% from businesses and 70% from "foundations". One of their > Directors bios shows he has direct ties to big oil. It's kind of negative to say it,

Re: [EVDL] "Fill 'er Up?'

2017-08-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Aug 2017 at 11:27, Mike Beem via EV wrote: > https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2017/Q2/instantly-rechargeable-batter > y-could-change-the-future-of-electric-and-hybrid-automobiles.html I'm not an electrochemist, but this sounds to me more like a fuel cell than a battery. Sustemic

Re: [EVDL] Big, Honking Electric Snowblower: Feasible?

2017-07-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
It's quite feasible, though the weight may be appreciable. You don't even have to convert if you don't want to. The GE Elec-trak lawn tractors built in the 1970s were sold with snow thrower attachments as an option, and many are still around. The snow thrower for the large-frame E12, E15,

Re: [EVDL] ? Is this really a Smart Fortwo ED EV that burnt to a crisp ?

2017-07-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
A lot of people have shown an interest in discussing the origins of the fire here, but I haven't seen any posts yet addressing Bruce's question -- was this really a Smart? Bruce provided links that show a Smart chassis. The burnt-out skeleton in the photos resembles it. However, there are

Re: [EVDL] Drive toward electric-car future picking up speed

2017-07-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Jul 2017 at 15:30, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Let's stop the name calling right here. I think the poster was disparaging the article's writer, not Peri. However, I have to agree with Cor that ad hominem attacks -- no matter where they're directed -- are more a reflection on the

Re: [EVDL] Pumping the amperes?

2017-07-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Maybe something like Ebay 122047896993 ? Claims "Ah Measuring range 0 ~ 2000KAH"! It's certainly cheap enough. Accuracy? Reliability? Who knows? Disclaimer: I know nothing about this gadget, just what I read in the Ebay listing. Also: you don't always get what you pay for, but you seldom

Re: [EVDL] Factory EV 2002 Toyota Rav4EV on the market

2017-04-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Apr 2017 at 16:49, fred ungewitter via EV wrote: > ... nickel metal hydride, "antique" technology to be sure, but quite a > development when it appeared on the market, prior to being squelched. Anyone who's used good quality NiMH cells in a flashlight or camera knows how stable and

Re: [EVDL] Factory EV 2002 Toyota Rav4EV on the market

2017-04-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I remember an EVDL member from about 20 years ago who re-converted a US Electricar pickup after its inverter turned toes up. This was well before the USE owner community reverse-engineered the Dolphin drive. He switched over to a much more conventional -- and more easily serviced -- series DC

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1238-6501 State of Charge

2017-08-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I am not a lithium battery expert. But with any kind of battery, I would do a load test to identify the problem cells. Put 20-40 amps on the fully charged battery, and measure the voltage of each cell in turn. The stinkers will quickly reveal themselves. Be aware that you may find a

Re: [EVDL] Self discharge never sleeps (was: Curtis 1238-6501...)

2017-08-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Aug 2017 at 20:18, Jukka Järvinen via EV wrote: > This is why SOC windowing was developed. Could someone please explain what SOC windowing is and how it works? Thanks. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL

Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

2017-05-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 2 May 2017 at 13:02, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: > I guess David doesn't have any credit cards ... cell phone ... use the > internet ... I don't get why Rush is being snarky here, but I'll give a simple, civil response: I have little enough privacy already, without choosing to give up

Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

2017-05-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 2 May 2017 at 11:58, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > And, if Tesla suspects any foul play, they can instantly disable a > Tesla ... This, and the creepy constant monitoring, are the main reasons I will never buy a Tesla. NEVER. You don't ever really own your Tesla, you're just

Re: [EVDL] Bill Ford kills: CEO out> after his raise, job layoffs, h2 debacle& sweating water from air

2017-05-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
The articlie that I read said it was because Fields wasn't sufficiently gung- ho on SDVs (self-driving vehicles). It didn't say anything about EVs one way or the other. It had a pic of the new guy, Hackett. Apperances don't mean much, I guess -- but you'd never mistake him for Elon Musk,

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 May 2017 at 10:35, len moskowitz via EV wrote: > Energy density is what gives batteries its lifecycle between charges, > so a battery with a very high energy density will, for example, allow > an electric car to drive further between charges. Ignoring the twisted syntax in the sentence

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 May 2017 at 23:11, Brandon Hines via EV wrote: > what would [be Goodenough's] motivation to make an outrageous or bogus > claim. It is not like he is shopping his invention to venture > capitalist. I doubt that he's doing anything like that. But all kinds of bad things can nuke a

Re: [EVDL] EV to Hybrid Trailer

2017-05-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Hi Eli, You've obviously given this some thought already and realize some of the technical problem you'd need to solve. Modern EVs -- modern cars of all kinds, actually -- are pretty much integrated computers-on-wheels. They don't take well to things happening that aren't in their

Re: [EVDL] veemo

2017-06-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I like the idea of the vehicle itself, a human-electric hybrid. Its looks, meh. It kind of reminds me of a squashed Chevrolet Spark, not that looks really matter all that much to me. The concept looks interesting. It's their business model that I don't care for. It seems that they're

Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

2017-05-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 May 2017 at 10:28, paul dove via EV wrote: > All modern cars can be disabled. I read some years ago that GM had built this capability into Onstar, and would use it at police request. I haven't been able to determine whether other automakers that use vehicle telematics include the same

Re: [EVDL] EVs and altitude?

2017-05-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 May 2017 at 15:28, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > But only if you have 100% efficient regen. Obviously you're not going to get 100% efficient regen, but you'd be surprised how close you can get under the right conditions in a well designed real world vehicle. I've posted about this in

Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

2017-05-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 2 May 2017 at 9:05, Collin Kidder via EV wrote: > Doing so is likely to be seen as theft (of electricity). Here's some totally uninformed speculation. Anyone who knows otherwise, please correct me. A Tesla is like an ankle bracelet that you drive, always connected to the net, reporting

Re: [EVDL] Slow due to 96V pack?

2017-09-14 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 14 Sep 2017 at 18:10, paul dove via EV wrote: > There is no voltage adjustment on input voltage in any motor controller I ever > used. EVERY controller I've ever used has had some kind of undervoltage limit, though in many cases it wasn't easily adjustable. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA

Re: [EVDL] Slow due to 96V pack?

2017-09-14 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 14 Sep 2017 at 17:19, Roger Stockton via EV wrote: > *IF* the sophisticated controller were replaced with a simple contactor > controller, then if the contactor controller allowed the entire 96V battery to > be connected directly to a stalled motor (~0 ohms), the voltage drop across > the

Re: [EVDL] Soldering to the J-1772 Pins

2017-10-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Oct 2017 at 15:49, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Trying to solder to the pins of an EVSE takes a hellova soldering iron. Could you crimp them with a hammer crimper, or maybe with one of those cheap Chinese hex crimpers from Harbor Fright? David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (Spy shots)> USPS's New Electric US Postal/Mail Truck

2017-10-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
The USPS has flirted with EVs off and on since the 1970s. They've run pilots and prototypes. I remember an AMC-made Jeep body conversion in the 1970s. In the the early 1980s, the infamous ill-fated Commuter Vehicles postal vans went far wide of the USPS's requirements, essentially putting

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Flying e-Hovercycle, e-motorcycle, auton patrol nEV, e-Robocop @Gitex in UAE

2017-10-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Oct 2017 at 14:24, Rod Hower via EV wrote: > Hovercycle? Looks more like a human food processor.  Who comes up with > this stuff? The other question is, who would want to USE it? It looks like an alien UFO from a low budget horror film. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Flying e-Hovercycle, e-motorcycle, auton patrol nEV, e-Robocop @Gitex in UAE

2017-10-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Oct 2017 at 10:24, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote: > I'm much more worried about those open propellers - there is zero > shielding if one breaks or someone gets too near the blades.  Ugh. I suspect that's a feature, not a bug. I hope I'm wrong. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL

Re: [EVDL] I wonder where the Clunns are

2017-09-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I've seen 300-350 battery amps routinely from good 6v golf car batteries. There's a reason that 1980s converters used 400a controllers in their 96- 120v golf car battery conversions. If your batteries have been on a "maintainer" for 2 years, there's a good chance that they now have significant

Re: [EVDL] Two EV's to Donate

2017-09-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Sep 2017 at 22:16, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > They are old technology which has no place in the brush less motor > world of today. Yes, but they have an upside: You can actually work on them yourself, without having to fight some automaker's proprietary security stuff. If the

Re: [EVDL] K BC20 96 volt charger replacement?

2017-09-29 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Sep 2017 at 16:35, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > If you have to replace your pack, I suggest: > http://www.sears.com/automotive-batteries-marine-batteries/b-1100201 > > select the appropriate size you currently have, either group 31, 27, > or 24. I have had good cycle life with these ...

[EVDL] Comuta-car rear axle available

2017-09-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I have a Comuta-car rear axle available. It came out of a 1980 C-car. I think I remember it has less than 6000 miles on it. I'll give it to anyone who is willing to come pick it up. It's located south of Akron, Ohio. I'm pretty sure it's the 6.38 ratio "torque" axle. It might be useful for

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Her 2day Atlanta-GA to Asheville-NC Bolt EV Experience> (waiting on L2= bummer)

2017-09-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 27 Sep 2017 at 13:37, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Chevy shot themselves in the foot! See also: GM EV1. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] Solar vehicles..just do the math.

2017-09-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Maybe you can do it as a hobbyist project. I don't see it as a viable mass produced commercial product for a long time yet, if ever. It would have to be competitive with current vehicles at initial dealer-lot price, because that's all most buyers see. Also, it can't be too odd-looking.

[EVDL] Blocked mail -- OT list business

2017-10-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Periodically, one or another of the big email services will decide to block the EVDL's mail. In the past we've had problems with the Microsoft mail services, AT's various permutations, AOL, and sometimes Yahoo. Lately I've been seeing a small number of AOL and Verizon addresses bouncing mail.

Re: [EVDL] Rebuilding infrastructure (smartly) EVDL

2017-10-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I agree that it might be better for Puerto Rico to not spend too much trying to restore their poorly maintained, fragile grid, and go straight to investing in distributed generation. For decades PREPA (the state-owned PR electric utility) resisted using anything but fuel oil and a little

Re: [EVDL] Efficacy of regeneration to charge battery

2017-10-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 23 Oct 2017 at 15:19, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > He drove it over the Apls, Make that ALPS. Sorry. (Brusa is a Swiss company.) David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/h

Re: [EVDL] Efficacy of regeneration to charge battery

2017-10-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Oct 2017 at 21:02, davinder via EV wrote: > I am puzzling over how regeneration in ev charges the main battery. > Plug in charging takes 8-10 hour charging to top up the battery - so > when the vehicle is rolling down hill oe deaccelerating the 'charge > energy' is avalable for seconds or

Re: [EVDL] tabloid.uk scaremongering> Garbo sez EV charging w/ extension in rain is really dangerous

2017-11-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
> He warned the wet cable could have caused a fire or given someone a shock Start a fire? In the pouring rain? As for the shock, three letters: RCD. Or, if you're here in the States, GFI. Remember, unlike stupidity, ignorance can be cured. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator

Re: [EVDL] Need Help with DMOC-224 and AC-24

2017-11-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Hi Mike. As you probably know while Solectria still sort of exists as a utility scale PV hardware company, Solectria-the-EV-manufacturer is long gone. Their engineers who would have your answer are no doubt now scattered to the winds. If you haven't already, you might try posting your

Re: [EVDL] Heat pump vs resistive Heater (OT, but somewhat EV related)

2017-11-29 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 29 Nov 2017 at 15:07, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > if you choose a heat pump, make sure it will generate the BTUs you > need at your coldest temperature or supplement it with some resistance > heating. Every home-HVAC heat pump I've ever seen has had supplemental and/or "emergency" heat.

Re: [EVDL] Heat pump vs resistive Heater (never buy another AC unit)

2017-11-29 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 29 Nov 2017 at 18:14, ROBERT via EV wrote: > A heat pump outputs a register temperature of approximately 90 F. This > low a temperature blowing across your skin is not comfortable to a lot > a people. I think this is less true of recent heat pumps. I'd like to hear from someone who owns an

Re: [EVDL] Heat pump vs resistive Heater (with radiators)

2017-11-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I hate to rain on folks' parades (even though it's raining today where I am), but this thread has almost nothing to do with EVs now. I tried to bring it back on topic, but to no avail. Maybe you could take it to private email now? Thanks, David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator =

[EVDL] DC controller common terminal

2017-12-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This question refers to a non-road EV, but I think it's applicable to road EVs too. I recently bought an Alltrax controller for my Elec-trac tractor. Like most (all?) DC controllers, it has 3 high power terminals. In this case they're B-, M-, and B+M+ (actually marked just B+ but described

Re: [EVDL] DC controller common terminal

2017-12-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Cor, Paul, thanks for the replies! I forgot about the freeewheeling diode(s). So I'll connect it the way the manual says. Still ... I recall some discussion years ago about fixed frequency 15kHz+ Curtis controllers having trouble with current limiting on large, low inductance motors. It

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 13 Dec 2017 at 13:55, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Anybody parked in a "green light" spot is suceptible to ticketing and > towing. I don't think that insisting people take time out from work to move their cars when charged, subject to their cars being ticketed or towed, is the way to

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 13 Dec 2017 at 13:08, Lawrence Harris via EV wrote: > I would love to see a big light on the top of the charge head that goes green > while charging, amber when the charger ramps down to the end of charge and red > when done. Outstanding idea, but I'd recomment the exact opposite of the

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