Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed

100 miles on 1kWh? What are you smoking? I'm pretty sure even an electric bicycle can't do that. Al On 9/14/2023 7:20 PM, David Heacock via EV wrote: Yes I know this is a very controlled situation and is not a vehicle that would be purchased by the public but taking a look at the numbers and

Re: [EVDL] Important Aptera news.

It's national news. Looks like they don't put it up for viewing until 24hrs after broadcast. On 7/20/2023 8:53 PM, Ryan Fulcher via EV wrote: I would love to see that clip... But i have been unable to locate any such video. If you find a link to it online, or know which NBC station ran it,

Re: [EVDL] EV Grin doubled, next level PV Aptera grins.

Alan Arrison via EV wrote: I was excited about the Aptera until I saw the hub motors. I'll pass until I see some real world reliability demonstrated. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.

Re: [EVDL] EV Grin doubled, next level PV Aptera grins.

I was excited about the Aptera until I saw the hub motors. I'll pass until I see some real world reliability demonstrated. On 7/7/2023 3:30 AM, Ryan Fulcher via EV wrote: I'm looking forward to being finally proven wrong about the practicality of PV on your EV when the Aptera starts being

[EVDL] Tesla model 3 battery pack info

I am looking for information on recent Tesla model 3 battery packs. I haven't been able to find much definitive data on the net. Up until the end of 2021, the Model 3 modules all had the same form factor regardless of capacity. They are just too long to fit into most conversions (70.5 or 76

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

Excellent ideas Robert. On 11/25/2022 2:33 PM, Robert Johnston via EV wrote: Okay, I've been looking into/thinking about this for a bit, and I see several ways this could be handled. ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in

Re: [EVDL] EV school buses

School buses are way more the $50,000. On 10/27/2022 12:57 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: ... $1 billion in grants to purchase about 2,500 clean school buses under a new federal program. ... Only about 1% of the nation's 480,000 school buses were electric as of last year ... That's $400,000 per

Re: [EVDL] Need to find a blocking diode for charger output

Wouldn't the voltage drop confuse the charger, especially when it gets to the constant voltage point near end of charge? Al On 3/20/2022 4:52 PM, David Nelson via EV wrote: Hi, I'm replacing the T-875 battery pack in a golf cart with a 48V Dakota Lithium LiFePO4 battery. I also ordered their

Re: [EVDL] The electric future of snowmobiling

60 miles seems very optimistic, especially at winter temperatures. Al On 2/28/2022 11:35 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Taiga snowmobiles start at about $17,490 and can travel about 60 miles on a charge. The company expects to make its first snowmobile delivery this winter, and the waiting

Re: [EVDL] Request Tesla crash data

It most certainly is! Especially if it could be potentially dangerous. On 2/8/2022 10:21 PM, nathan christiansn via EV wrote: It is not the government's job to regulate an optional feature on any vehicle. ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org

Re: [EVDL] IEA says renewable energy to match current fossil fuel and nuclear output by 2026

I find this highly doubtful. They are making a lot of assumptions on renewable build out. Also, I'm sure they are using peak renewable output assuming the sun is shining and the wind is howling everywhere on the planet at the same time. Al On 12/7/2021 7:24 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

Re: [EVDL] OT: fuel cell mining truck

It still doesn't make any sense. The solar they are using to make hydrogen could be more efficiently used to just charge batteries. On 9/6/2021 10:47 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: A Seattle company is building a 300 ton mining truck using fuel cells. Assuming that the hydrogen comes from

Re: [EVDL] hydrogen isn't green, after all

Enough with the hydrogen, Peter sums it up nicely. On 8/23/2021 7:27 PM, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: I thought it was obvious I was comparing BEV vs FCEV. Apparently not. Higher cost to build? Well, yeah. But don’t BEVs cost more to build, An FCEV is an EV with a fuel cell, so most of the

Re: [EVDL] LiFePO4 EOL behavior

I have a 9 year old pack of CALB blue 100Ah cells. I am seeing cells with very high self discharge. Probably 10's of milliamps. I am concerned that these high resistance shorts will become low resistance shorts and burn my garage down. (There is no excessive BMS loading) Al On 7/24/2021 9:01

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

I agree with Gary, it is not a win win. On 5/21/2021 11:07 PM, Gary Krysztopik via EV wrote: "The Master's tools will never dismantle the Master's house". This is Ford's solution to the problem that they created (massively oversized trucks everywhere). Their solution must lie within their

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal

Well isn't that special, a big bloated inefficient truck with (literally) a ton of batteries shoved in it. Sigh... I've got my CyberTruck reserved. On 5/19/2021 10:18 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjisj5T0VqE Bigger frunk than Tesla. Same price for the low

Re: [EVDL] Nearly all Stellantis nameplates will have electrified option by 2025

Good luck with those range claims. Underlying Stellantis’ plans are four new global battery-electric platforms, including three for passenger cars and one for large SUVs and pickup trucks set to debut in 2024 with no less than 310 miles of range, Tavares said. BEV passenger car platforms

Re: [EVDL] large drone ?

And fall out of the sky when something goes wrong. On 4/8/2021 10:51 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I think this is pretty impressive technology. Usually VTOL aircraft are heavily compromised - they usually work more like helicopters but have poor performance (or very high fuel usage) in other

Re: [EVDL] EV trailer light wiring Bolt & Tesla

Those LED's must not be very bright. 13V x .03A= .39W Maybe you meant 300ma? Al On 3/31/2021 10:12 AM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: Hi folks, Dave posted my trailer wiring for the Chevy Bolt and the Tesla Y (I assume other Tesla tail light access is similar) On www.EVDL.org/lib/mh. I accessed

Re: [EVDL] Mitsubishi air source heat pumps

They can't, I don't care what they say. The laws of physics still apply. The "heat" that is being discharged might be 60F which is hot compared to 0F. They would have to circulate thousands of cubic yards of 0F air to obtain even a tiny amount of "heat". Someone asked for link:

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y vs Escape PHEV

How can you re-enable fast charging? Won't Tesla see the blacklisted serial number? On 3/17/2021 2:32 PM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: Tesla has a policy where if they find out your car is salvage or has been in an accident that deployed the airbags, they deem it unsafe to use on their supercharger

Re: [EVDL] Bottom balancing batteries

If you regularly run your cells to 2.5 volts, you'll be replacing them soon. 3.00 volts with no load is considered dead. 2.5 volts is deader than dead. Al On 3/12/2021 11:30 PM, John Titman via EV wrote: Hello all: I am a newby so, bear with me . I have converted my 1965 Ford Falcon to an

Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

Just a few reasons you won't see autonomous vehicles anytime soon. .. “there are circumstances and events to which the system is not capable of recognizing or responding. These include static objects and road debris, emergency vehicles, construction zones, large uncontrolled intersections

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

You've heard it before, but here it is again. Proceed without a BMS at your own peril. Best case, you ruin some expensive cells. Worst case, you burn your house down. Al On 3/5/2021 9:31 AM, Dan Baker via EV wrote: Thanks Jerry for your practical use of parallel pack info using Volt batts!

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EVs have Big-Oil worried> pack$ tipping cheaper

Why do they keep spouting that battery prices have dropped? For who? CALB wants the same price for their prismatic  cells today as they did when I bought mine 8 years ago. Al On 12/20/2020 5:07 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:

Re: [EVDL] Battery backup/Grid tie/solar inverter and 20kw charging (DC)

It's not likely you can just plug in any EV and have it allow DC power to be pulled from the battery. Al On 12/17/2020 7:09 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Got a demo at our monthly GGEVA meeting. For 5 thousand dollars a lot of bang for the bucks.  Lawrence Rhodes

Re: [EVDL] Design News: General Motors Slashes Battery Wiring by 90 Percent

Sheesh, nothing like over-hyping. They conveniently don't mention any downside like extra energy needed for the wireless communication or possible interference to said communication. On 9/24/2020 9:49 AM, moskowitz via EV wrote:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (hd-pr)> LiveWire Sets Record

This doesn't sound right. I'm pretty sure a Zero would blow the doors off the Harley. On 9/21/2020 2:53 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.cyclenews.com/2020/09/article/harley-davidson-livewire-sets-new-world-records-at-ev-racing-exhibition/ Harley-Davidson LiveWire Sets New World Records

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: New FMC F-150 pickup e-truck factory in Dearborn-MI

My guess; a lot. Al On 9/6/2020 4:57 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On Sun Sep 06 09:02:32 PDT 2020 ev@lists.evdl.org said: I think the hubris f150 is supposed to get about 10 miles electric range Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 8:24 PM, Alan Arrison via

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: New FMC F-150 pickup e-truck factory in Dearborn-MI

If these electric pickups from the big three are "styled" the same as the monstrosities they are selling currently, they are going to have terrible efficiency and require HUGE battery packs to get 200 to 300 mile range. Al On 9/5/2020 2:53 PM, evln via EV wrote:

Re: [EVDL] Wanted: S10 EV

It would help if you gave your location and rough price you are looking to spend. Also, are you able to do your own maintenance/repairs on an EV? On 8/18/2020 12:08 AM, Jason Toberman via EV wrote: Hi! I am a new member to the list and an "aspiring S10 EV driver" I am looking to buy a

Re: [EVDL] Battery Pack drained completely

Ouch! Your whole ex$pensive pack destroyed? What did you do about the alarm that was sounding. I'm hoping that the pack isn't really dead and there is another problem like the 12V house battery went dead. Al On 8/16/2020 1:27 PM, Denis Boutet via EV wrote: Hello everyone, RE: Ranger EV

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

Where are you getting your cells, from NASA? You couldn't get 1500 watts even if you covered the sides and all the windows too. On 7/22/2020 1:23 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Cars can carry 1,500 watts of solar using Sunpower cells. That means every spot. Hood, top and trunk. Not panels

Re: [EVDL] Solar powered vehicle panel requirements.

It's a math problem that can't be solved. At least not with today's technology. On 7/10/2020 2:21 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: The math problem here is consumption over time. A solar racer with a 5 passenger capacity 850 pound weight with a coefficient of drag of .16  rolling on moped

Re: [EVDL] LiFePO4

Where are these mythical cells? They sure aren't from CALB. Al On 7/8/2020 8:06 PM, Bill Dube via EV wrote: I don't think that LiFePO4 has made any remarkable gains in specific energy. What LiFePO4 does have is spectacular cycle life. If manufactured with some degree of care, you get

Re: [EVDL] 20s A123 battery pack for ebike

I'd be wary of a cheap BMS even *with* a wiring diagram. Without one? Contact the seller. On 6/23/2020 7:39 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: The BMS and Charger came the other day way earlier than promised. Both packages came from an address no more than 10 miles from my housemaybe

Re: [EVDL] Million Mile Battery

I won't hold my breath. On 6/9/2020 8:28 AM, moskowitz via EV wrote: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ___ UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: [EVDL] hints: Tesla's upcoming battery day (v)

Yeah, sure they will... On 5/29/2020 2:59 AM, evln via EV wrote: https://www.eenews.net/stories/1063234625 Tesla's 'Battery Day': Business as usual or an EV coup? May 26, 2020 ... Tesla will unveil a stunningly inexpensive battery that at last makes an electric vehicle as affordable as a gas

Re: [EVDL] : V2g for DIY EV's (economics)

Tom, could you give some specifics on this system, or point us to a web page? What battery? What inverter? Thanks, Al On 5/28/2020 1:24 PM, Thomas Keenan via EV wrote: Where I live, the local utility has some odd rules, but I do get credited $0.06968 for each kWh given back to the grid. I

Re: [EVDL] : V2g for DIY EV's

Sounds dangerous and possibly illegal. There is no inverter that can supply the actual power you are using and not back-feed the grid. On 5/26/2020 7:48 PM, Steve Clunn via EV wrote: The inverter I'm using actually claims to not back feed to the grid but only to supply power that one is using

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G

People don't care about feeding the grid, they want to be able to use their big battery to run their house when the grid goes down. Oops, this would kill sales of their powerwall. On 5/19/2020 9:28 PM, evln via EV wrote: Here what I was going to post, read:

Re: [EVDL] OT: motor/generator

Only 2" long? That doesn't sound right. On 5/9/2020 6:18 PM, steve sawtelle via EV wrote: Hi all, This is a bit of-topic, but I can't think of a better place to ask this. Another group I subscribe to is devoted to BMW motorcycles from the 1960's (slash2s). For the most part we are getting

Re: [EVDL] Stranded ICE assets

Wow! Glad to hear this Willie. To review:  I went to the FC event expecting poor attendance, maybe a few hundred or a thousand.  The event was mobbed to the point of inability of attendees to see what they wanted to see.  I don't have attendance figures but I would guess tens of thousands. 

Re: [EVDL] custom battery

That sounds like almost super-capacitor territory. What voltage is needed? Designing and implementing a BMS is something even EE's have trouble with. However, if the voltage is low enough, it makes it much easier. Al On 4/14/2020 12:33 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Hi, I need a battery

Re: [EVDL] Drop-in li-ion replacements for PbSO4

Exactly, hospital aren't buying some no name Chinese garbage. Any lithium battery, drop in or not, has to have an onboard BMS for safety. On 3/28/2020 6:10 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: The liability if something goes wrong is untenable. All the lithium drop in types which feature exact

Re: [EVDL] Drop-in li-ion replacements for PbSO4

Do these so called "drop in replacements" mention having onboard protection/balancing circuits? If they don't mention it in their literature, I would stay far away from their battery. Al On 3/26/2020 10:31 PM, evln via EV wrote: While looking at homes4sale

Re: [EVDL] Nissan Leaf-lullaby puts ice on your baby's brain

Must be a slow news day. Wouldn't the sounds put the driver to sleep too? On 2/24/2020 1:04 AM, evln via EV wrote: https://insideevs.com/news/398279/nissan-leaf-sounds-sleep/ Nissan Creates 'Lullaby' To Help Kids Nap In Electric Cars Feb 12, 2020 James Fossdyke [images

Re: [EVDL] IBM seawater li-ion SOC2 80%:5min>powerful, cleaner, safer, mo efficient

Sigh, another miracle battery... On 12/22/2019 3:12 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/ibm-research-new-battery-seawater-materials-2888933/ IBM Unveils an Eco-Friendly Battery That Could Charge Your Car to 80% in 5 Minutes December 21, 2019 Bryan Hood [image

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Rivian R1T e-truck’s quad-motor torque vectoring

They conveniently don't mention the downside of increased weight, complexity, and cost. On 11/17/2019 9:26 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://electrek.co/2019/11/11/rivians-quad-motor-torque-vectoring-sets-high-bar-for-tesla-cybertruck/ Rivian’s quad-motor torque vectoring sets high bar for

Re: [EVDL] Wash-Post headline jabs @EVs during CA-utility-power-cuts

Just as I suspected, wildfire threat or not, people are not going to put up with power outages, especially long ones. It's costing businesses hundreds of millions of dollars a day. I can even see this ending up in court.

Re: [EVDL] LiFePO4 Thermal Imaging Opinions?

If you had a proper BMS like the Elithion system that I have, it would show you the exact temperature of each cell and warn you of over temperature. On 9/30/2019 11:57 PM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: Time to turn up the dial on the technical channel. After converting my car to a lightly-used

Re: [EVDL] Takoma_Park-MD ice-station ditches pumps4 L3&2 EVSE> didn't like BIG-OIL jerking him around

Don't worry, you won't become rich, maybe broke, but not rich. They don't mention how much it will cost to charge. It’s not something that I expect to become rich overnight or something like that, but it’s a good cause (and) good for the environment. Depeswar Doley owner of the first gas

Re: [EVDL] (Keep EVs charged)> N.CA Counties power shutoff warning> Butte, El_Dorado, Nevada, Placer, Sutter, Yuba (v)

Properly maintained equipment should not be producing any arcs let alone arcs big enough to start a fire. This includes keeping trees cut far enough back, etc. On 9/22/2019 8:12 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: I am amazed that the public would put up with this. On 9/22/2019 1:35 AM, brucedp5

Re: [EVDL] (Keep EVs charged)> N.CA Counties power shutoff warning> Butte, El_Dorado, Nevada, Placer, Sutter, Yuba (v)

I am amazed that the public would put up with this. On 9/22/2019 1:35 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/PGE-May-Shut-Off-Power-to-Some-North-Bay-Cities-Next-Week-561007461.html PG May Shut Off Power to Some North Bay Cities Next Week 2019-09-21 Christie Smith

Re: [EVDL] E-Motorcycle battery source

20 to 40 kWh! Just where are you going to put that many batteries? On 9/5/2019 9:41 PM, Matthew Pitts via EV wrote: Good evening (or morning, depending on where you are), I'm looking for a source for 48v batteries for an E-Motorcycle project I'm going to work on this winter. I would prefer

Re: [EVDL] Ultrafire batteries. Cheap

Not the greatest choice of name for those batteries. On 9/4/2019 9:35 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4=303256457843=48619=1=0=1567646594735 Is it possible to use individual chargers and no BMS on discharge? Is using spring

Re: [EVDL] Crazy gocarts in San francisco's Farmer's Market parking lot.

There is no way a motor that small is 8kw. Maybe peak power for 2 seconds at best. On 8/23/2019 12:47 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I was driving home with ten sacks of 60 pound concrete when I saw the smallest carts I have ever seen in the parking lot going really fast...so I

Re: [EVDL] Stella Era. I want one.

3kw! Do you have any idea how many square feet you would need and how heavy just the panels would be? On 8/21/2019 8:33 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: With advances in aerodynamics and electronics Stella Era is quite amazing.  I would really love to build something like this.  I suspect

[EVDL] Electric motor breakthrough

Have you guys seen this? They are making some "too good to be true" claims. Their slick website is pretty convincing. Like most of the "breakthrough" technologies, there must be a downside. What say the motor gurus? https://www.linearlabsinc.com Al

Re: [EVDL] Solar Car

Good luck with that. On 8/13/2019 10:42 PM, Mark Laity-Snyder via EV wrote: What do folks think of this article?

Re: [EVDL] Manzanita PFC20 operation

The blue led is the timer time out after the yellow voltage limit led comes on. If the rotary switch is set to 3 o'clock, it times out immediately after the yellow led comes on. Does the yellow come on along with the blue? On 8/6/2019 2:47 PM, Christopher Darilek via EV wrote: I scored a

Re: [EVDL] Hyundai releases solar roof vehicle.

The usual waste of time and money. I'm sure the numbers are theoretical best case scenario. On 8/6/2019 8:52 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Do the math. 1100 miles a year is significant. Lawrence Rhodes On Tuesday, August 6, 2019, 4:50:41 PM PDT, paul dove wrote: 2 to 3

Re: [EVDL] JDPower paid to poo-poo EV-sales> more paid4-koch-kool-aid

Who is claiming the survey was paid for? On 8/2/2019 4:03 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/motoring-news/buyers-resist-the-move-to-new-tech/news-story/f8d4de909774103baf6c1afaa779eb53 Buyers resist the move to new tech July 31, 2019 Toby Hagon

Re: [EVDL] V2H

It seems odd Tesla would have that capability available and not mention it. It seems like it would add cost. I was thinking more about an off board inverter that would connect to the vehicle fast charge port. Al On 7/28/2019 11:45 AM, Ing. Marco Gaxiola wrote: It is not actually that big,

Re: [EVDL] V2H

I had been wondering why something like this hadn't been done yet. However, it is by no means a done deal. They have a big problem to solve. They would have to work with all the automakers to have the vehicles allow access to the battery through the charge port and allow power to flow out of

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (DC AC/heatpumps and waterheating)

Where are you getting 25 cents a watt panels? Must be some real junk. On 7/17/2019 2:28 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Inefficent yes, but hooking up 2 wires is a lot easier than building one out of copper, plywood, glass and paint. With solar panels costing only 25 cents per watt (on a

Re: [EVDL] Possibly use as a Pack->AC inverter?

A lot of the larger UPS are kind of pricey, and you won't find many that will do split phase. I got a steal on Ebay for $500. I had to set up a switch to break my 320V pack in the middle, and a small DPST contactor to parallel the two half packs at 160V. That works out to 12 batteries at

Re: [EVDL] Possibly use as a Pack->AC inverter?

How would you hold it at 60Hz? How would you hold the output voltage steady with varying loads? I wouldn't chance it. Use a proper device like a UPS. I use a 3KW split phase pure sine wave output UPS to run my whole house. It was made to run on 12 12V batteries, I see a lot of them made for

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NY utility gives free solar hardware to EV buyers

Free you say? I bet it allows the utility to not only monitor your Solar/EV system, but control it too. Al On 5/14/2019 12:47 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2019/05/08/new-york-utility-giving-free-hardware-to-solar-and-ev-buyers/ New York utility gives free hardware

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Rivian e-truck box system patents r:230-400mi

The whole truck is a pipe dream. On 3/16/2019 7:16 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: 105KWh battery in the truck for 69,000 I don’t believe that story. Sounds like a pipe dream. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2019, at 11:04 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Supercap, ultracap, Goldcap> take the plunge (v)

Could  Ultracapacitors Replace Batteries In Future Electric Vehicles? The answer is no, no matter how much hype there is. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV

Re: [EVDL] EVfire: 2wheel EV.cn Suddenly Bursts Into Flames (v)

I'm sure there are many more of these "news" hack jobs. Bruce just posts one once in awhile to keep us informed about the anti-EV "news". Al On 2/13/2019 11:58 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://gaadiwaadi.com/shocking-electric-two-wheeler-burns-like-a-bomb-captured-in-video/ Electric

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Ford F-150 e-Truck promised

It's not. Any full size pickup with decent range and power would cost a fortune. Come to think of it, ICE trucks already cost a fortune. :-/ On 1/22/2019 9:21 AM, Christopher Darilek via EV wrote: Has anyone seen what capacity battery they plan to use? IMO this is the reason we haven't

Re: [EVDL] Watt-if: Remote L3 recharging service (Can this be provided?)

How damn lazy can you get? On 1/15/2019 9:33 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: % The newswire item below is not about EVs. Its about an ice service that will come out in a service ice-pu-truck and refuel your non-EV. My point in posting this is what would it take to create a service like this for

Re: [EVDL] EVlawsuit: No car could have withstood this 116mph crash> NTSB shutdown

Anti-EV hogwash anyone? On 1/10/2019 1:50 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: % ? Maybe rich parents should have spent time teaching their children right-from-wrong-behavior> obey speed limits ? % https://boingboing.net/2019/01/09/tesla-sued-for-death-of-18-yea.html Tesla sued for death of 18-year-old

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $50k flying EVs over San_Francisco-CA next year

Does anyone believe this nonsense? Al On 12/28/2018 6:26 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.timesofisrael.com/husband-and-wife-duo-sets-sights-on-flying-cars-over-san-francisco-next-year/ Husband-and-wife duo sets sights on flying cars over San Francisco next year 25 December 2018

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

Finally someone sets it straight regarding solar panels on car roofs. On 12/8/2018 9:05 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://qz.com/1482588/why-teslas-dont-and-cant-have-solar-roofs/ Why Teslas don’t—and can’t—have solar roofs December 3, 2018 Kabir Chibber [images

Re: [EVDL] AM radios dropped from plugins (RFI, EMI, +)> (go digital)

Hmm, that brings up a question. Do automobiles (electric or otherwise) have to pass any FCC regulations regarding RF emissions? Al On 11/9/2018 8:29 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Roger Stockton via EV wrote: Hmm, maybe cost savings of putting a grounded shield around the motor and

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $20/100mi sparkcharge> L3 recharges @1mi/min (v)

Wonderful, waste more energy delivering energy to an EV. I suppose it would be fine if you were at 0% with no chargers around. On 10/30/2018 11:31 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 400kW Wireless-EVSE ornl.gov goal> 97%-efficiency 6"-gap

They got one thing right... On 10/30/2018 11:49 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: It is the stuff of sci-fi novels ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: The physics of slapping solar panels on cars

The numbers don't add up for solar panels on automobiles, never have, never will. This has been proven time and time again. There is no way it gets even 20 miles per kWh under anything but perfect conditions and slow speeds. And the energy from the panels again is under perfect conditions.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: How solid state batteries are different> ($trolling?)

The usual BS. On 10/10/2018 11:10 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://dividendpassiveincome.blogspot.com/2018/10/worlds-first-super-battery-prototype.html World's First Super Battery Prototype Successfully Developed- Electric Car Revolution Coming Up and Sunset Industry for Oil and Gas

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 45 li-ion battery-making gigfactories around the world

This is nonsense. The Chinese CALB cells cost more than ever. (Yes, i realize they are talking about cells for production vehicles) They won't go down either. Al On 10/9/2018 11:02 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:

Re: [EVDL] FW: 12v Inverter in Trunk of Volt

Are you sure the DC/DC converter in the car can supply the 80+ amps needed for 1KW? Al On 10/1/2018 10:14 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Subject: 12v Inverter in Trunk of Volt I found that a 1 kW or larger 12v inverter to 60 Hz 120v easily fits in the left rear corner pocket in the Volt.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: magnix.aero oil-cooled e-motor for Iron-Bird Cessna

More techno-babble. Electric motors are already near their theoretical limits. I bet the power to weight number doesn't include the weight of the cooling system. Al On 9/30/2018 6:27 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.wired.com/story/magnix-electric-plane-motor/ A Better Motor Is the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 500kw/670hp Audi PB18 E-Tron e-racer 0-60mph:2s

Is this another vapor-ware computer generated image? On 9/23/2018 5:26 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.udi Unveils Its Newest Electric Sports Car, the PB18 E-Tron 9/10/2018 Laura Burstein [images https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBN9vGr.img?h=352=624=6=60=f=f ©

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 400kW (1080mph) EVSE new2 GM> (not new-tech 2others)

Like a lot of the "new technology" posts, a bunch of PR mumbo-jumbo. Each charger would require its own electrical substation. Efficiencies are already near theoretical limits. Notice the time frame is in the vapor-ware realm. And just what is a solid state transformer? Sheesh, Al On

Re: [EVDL] Roland Wiench

I wonder what will happen to his EV? It would be ashamed to just scrap it. Al On 8/23/2018 4:49 PM, Evan Tuer via EV wrote: That's sad news. I always got a kick out of reading about his one-of-kind EV and the engineering that he put into it. He seemed like a good guy, always willing to share

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 7.2k orders.eu4 $13.6k micro-mobility.com(Isetta) r:133mi (v)

Yeah right 8000/74=108wh per mile. maybe at 10mph. Motorcycles don't even do that good. Al The Microlino will offer two different lithium-ion battery sizes: an 8-kwh unit is good for 74 miles, and a 14.4-kwh version will cover 133 miles. The company says charging will take four hours.

Re: [EVDL] Roland Wiench

Roland always answered newbie questions that he had probably answered many times before. Rest in  peace Roland. Al On 8/20/2018 6:29 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: If youi've been on the EVDL for a while, you probably remember reading posts by Roland Wiench. He gave us a lot of them

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $50k 2020 Rivian Premium Pickup EV made in Normal-IL

Good luck, You'll need it. 500 million is a drop in the bucket. Al On 8/20/2018 1:17 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.wardsauto.com/alternative-propulsion/rivian-nearing-launch-premium-ev-pickup-suv Rivian Nearing Launch of Premium EV Pickup, SUV Aug 15, 2018 Joseph Szczesny [image

Re: [EVDL] Lithium Ion buddy pairing? (Was electriccarpartscompany.com?)

I guarantee that the inferior Chinese cells will change capacity as they are cycled and not by just a few percent. Running them without a BMS is a recipe for disaster. Damaged cells at best, a fire at worst. All the Chinese cells are junk, especially the CALBS. Al On 8/6/2018 7:48 PM,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 4versions of Arcanum Batmobile> sliders4 desired EV power

What a joke... Al On 7/30/2018 11:21 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Meet the 5,221-hp, 303 miles per hour, all-electric Alieno Arcanum. It delivers the finest, brashest and most bizarre set of offers we have ever found in a press release. Alieno’s first vehicle, if these claims are to be

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

3 modules in parallel is only 180ah at best, probably more like 150ah. John, don't you have a Zilla 2K in the truck? To pull even 1000 amps from those cells would be over 5C, let alone 2000! Al On 6/20/2018 11:53 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On Wed Jun 20 19:00:25 PDT 2018

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: mankamemotors.com EP-1 e-Motorcycle.in r:500km ts:251kph

Good luck with that. Not going to happen. Al Building an electric car with a range of 310 miles (500 km) is not such a difficult task these days as far as batteries are concerned. The size of the car allows for enough cells to be fitted so that the vehicles can have the desired reach. Not the

Re: [EVDL] Hb404

Sounds like a disaster in the making. You never want a relay to be energized to disable the charger. But you already knew that. Al On 5/25/2018 9:38 AM, Steve Clunn via EV wrote: This is a great meter at a good price but I have found one glitch that people should know about when using this

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Flywheels for L3 Charging EVs in 10 Minutes

Sigh, good luck with that. Can it be done? Probably. What would it cost? A fortune. Al In places where grid capacity is limited, flywheel batteries can be deployed to provide the powerful surge of electricity needed to recharge a car battery quickly. The current produced is strong enough to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: magnax.com Axial flux e-motors.be> More Powerful& Smaller

Who wrote this drivel. There is nothing new or innovative listed. Some of the claims about cooling and efficiency sound suspect. Al On 5/15/2018 1:30 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: http://revolution-green.com/new-axial-flux-electric-motors-pack-ev-power-smaller-package/ New Axial Flux Electric

Re: [EVDL] Sparrow alternate?

Notice it is listed under "Ride on Toys". Nuff said. Al On 5/13/2018 11:47 AM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: Anyone heard of this before? I have trouble believing that it's a real vehicle that's been developed in total secrecy, AND that's it's cheap (relatively).

Re: [EVDL] Lead carbon batteries.

If they worked, someone would be using them. Nuff said. There is no way they are twice as energy dense or give twice the cycles. Al On 5/8/2018 3:55 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I have an eGo scooter and don't want to fuss with converting to lithium.  Are these batteries really twice

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