I have two OpenEVSE's at my house. The only thing that's ever gone wrong
was a relay. They've progressed quite a bit since I bought mine (2nd and
3rd generation), but I have no qualms recommending them.
--Ric
On 9/8/2023 11:37 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote:
[...]
I was wondering if anybody had
to
about 80mph. 70 will do me fine.
--Rick
On 6/19/2023 8:53 PM, Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
That’s what I wanna see! The problem is that I don’t know what screens would
be useful and there are many!
I wonder if I load your clone file…
--Rick
On Jun 19, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Dan Baker via EV wr
controller, and give you WAY over spec torque at the low end.
>>
>>> On 6/19/2023 6:15 AM, Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
>>> Hey all. I recently reconverted my Ford Ranger. It had an ADC 9"
>>> series motor connected to the stock transmission, Raptor controller
a
passion for on road. Nothing to lose…
Sincerely,
Bob Bath
541.761.0838
Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 57 y.o.
vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not
cluelessness.
On Jun 19, 2023, at 6:16 AM, Rick Beebe via EV wrote
Hey all. I recently reconverted my Ford Ranger. It had an ADC 9" series
motor connected to the stock transmission, Raptor controller and 144v
pack. Now it has a Hyper 9 HV and controller, and a 160v pack. The Hyper
9 is connected to a TorqueTrends single-speed gearbox.
For the most part I'm
I have two of these, of various vintages, and they work great, but I'm a
fan of open source stuff:
https://openevse.com/
I also have a Clipper Creek 30amp one that has been rock solid.
--Rick
On 6/9/2023 10:31 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
My ESVE stopped working. I'm planning to replace it
It would be good to verify that you can get service reasonably close
though. I had a similar love-with-an-orphan-vehicle situation in that I
had a Smart EV for 3 years. I really liked the car. I had leased it and
was trying to decide between buying it and leasing another when the only
dealer
I have 48 CALB CA100's in my truck, also 5 years old. I've never even
had to top off any. I checked them in the Spring and they were all
within 2 thousandths of a volt of each other. In July I had one of those
*doh* events and drained the *entire* pack to 9 volts. I recharged the
pack and they
The simple solution has to solve the problem, though, and in this case they
have a requirement that it run on gasoline. And electric motor controller
doesn’t work so well for that.
--Rick
> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
>
> ROBERT via EV wrote:
>> I
I'm on my second CMax Energi and I'll echo what Bill said. However, you
have to be careful because some of the things he touts are options. Our
first Energi had everything and we loved it. It was a 2013 and we leased
it for 3 years. I was debating buying it but the dealer called last
March
I have 4 battery boxes for my LiFePo4 cells. Two hold 8 cells, one holds
12, and the big one holds 28. They are aluminum boxes I had made by
customaluminumboxes.com and I oversized them 2" in all directions. I put
1" foam insulation around the batteries. I bought 10 battery heating
pads from
It was fun watching the youtube video linked off that page and seeing
Bob again. The white pickup truck featured in that video that Bob helped
Dave Oliveria build now sits proudly in my driveway. I reconverted it to
LiFePo4 and ended up replacing everything except the motor, controller
and
I found it was worth it putting in a 240v EVSE mostly for the weekends.
120v was fine on weekdays. Drive to work and back, maybe a short errand,
plug it in over night and repeat. But weekends I often make lots of
medium trips and it wasn't charging enough in the in-between times. I
never ran
in Australia.
> Tom Keenan
>
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Rick Beebe via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have a 1998 Ford Ranger (http://evalbum.com/4674) that I bought as a
>> lead-acid EV and converted it to Lithium. In the process I replaced
>>
I have a 1998 Ford Ranger (http://evalbum.com/4674) that I bought as a
lead-acid EV and converted it to Lithium. In the process I replaced
almost everything. I bought an AutoblockAMP from RechargeCar (sadly,
discontinued). It's a slick hall-effect current sensor that measures
current and counts
On 10/17/2016 8:22 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
Maybe you've noticed that as LED retrofit light bulbs have fallen in
price,
their rated lifetimes have gotten shorter. The early ones were rated for
50,000 average hours; many now are rated for 10,000-20,000 hours. The same
thing
Congratulations! Sounds like you're having a lot of fun and doing it
right! I'm envious.
--Rick
On 10/16/2016 7:04 PM, wayne alexander via EV wrote:
Its been a long time since I posted here..things are going great. I will be
opening a shop in California. Exactly is not sure where ast this
There's a guy on the Smart Car forums who has created a diagnostic tool
using an Arduino with a CANBus shield that can read the battery voltage
of each of the 93 cells, total voltage, various temperatures,
statistical analysis, all in a few seconds at the stroke of a key.
The J1772 cord and connectors are so stupid expensive that it's hardly
worth not buying a whole new EVSE.
If anyone's interested, I have a never-used GE WattStation plug-in EVSE
with a 20 foot cord that I'll sell for $375 plus shipping.
--Rick
On 9/3/2016 4:50 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
er.
> Entering into a negotiation would have been appropriate.
>
> Mike
>
>
>> On August 29, 2016 7:50:47 PM MDT, Mark Abramowitz via EV
>> <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>> Amazing that they would embark on such an effort without first talking
>>
One has to wonder if the people setting up the group buy pulled that
target price out of their ass. I can sympathize with Nissan if that
price is below wholesale or worse. Are you really losing "sales" if you
would have to actually pay the people to take the cars? I would tout how
much money I
Well put me in detention for not paying attention. Thanks, as always,
for the enlightenment. They certainly aren't trumpeting the car though.
The offer shown below at the San Jose dealership is the same terms I got.
--Rick
On 8/16/2016 5:41 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
The Electric B-class
I got a card in the mail on Friday offering me a lease on an
all-electric B-class car. It took me completely by surprise as I've
heard nothing about them actually being ready to sell electric vehicles.
--Rick
On 8/16/2016 6:58 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
When I had a lead pack in my truck I had rampant leakage from the pack
to the frame. I think the acid mist and dirt are conductive. I kept
trying to find the culprit battery by segmenting the pack and the leak
would literally just move around.
And I had the same problem as you--it was
My truck has a manual "armstrong" bed lift kit installed. It does use
two really long hydraulic struts to help lift and to hold it up but it
still takes a lot of muscle to get it moving. However I'd never consider
doing a pickup conversion without some kind of lift installed. Nor would
I put
I just traded my leased 2013 Ford C-Max Energi for a 2015 one. They
tried to hit me with $250 excessive wear because the inspection report
claimed the nose and fenders were "covered with template." Template? Its
sounds to me like the inspection company didn't even bother to fill in
the
On 03/23/2016 04:22 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
HE drives faster than anyone on the planet, his clothes probably cost more
than most people’s cars and he goes to parties you wouldn’t be able to get
into if you haven’t signed thousands of autographs in your life.
But as cool as Lewis Hamilton
There are a couple here.
http://www.evalbum.com/4674
Let me know if you want to see more or have questions.
--Rick
On 03/14/2016 03:05 PM, Lev Lvovsky wrote:
Any chance you have pictures of the boxes that you had made?
thanks!
-lev
On Mar 14, 2016, at 8:34 AM, Rick Beebe via EV <
On 03/12/2016 12:30 PM, Willie2 via EV wrote:
I'm looking for a source for a weather tight, probably fiberglass, box.
About 4'x6' and 2' high with a lift-up top. Can anyone suggest? Some
custom fiberglass shop?
I had www.customaluminumboxes.com make me perfectly sized welded
aluminum boxes.
On 03/11/2016 06:10 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
Here's metal-exercise/brain teaser - what brand and model car is shown in
the story image below. The Vacaville FD rep sez its an Electric, but they
often get confused calling any non-ice vehicle an Electric. My thinking is
the burnt vehicle could
On 03/11/2016 03:45 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
IMO, the dark horse here is China. They look set to become the world's
largest producer of EVs, as long as their government doesn't cave to oil
interests.
I just read that BYD was the largest producer of EVs last year. I think
the
There will be a problem because we're talking about thousands of cars
being disposed of and I just don't see a market for that many used
battery packs. It's going to get to the point where the salvage places
will have to pay to have them taken away for recycling. Certainly there
are going to
Wow, they managed to get a 2,000 pound car up to 48mph. I have to wonder
if it's really a 20,000 pound car.
--Rick
On 02/10/2016 03:14 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
% Cedar Rocket EV> RX-8 pinnings, E-drive, 2 e-turbines %
The final speed on the first ever run of the motorized log, was 76.625
I AM driving a Smart ED and I too thought that sounded a bit fishy and I
too disagree that regular cycling is "good" for the batteries.
BUT one thing that sets Smart apart is that the battery is rented
(optionally but most folks choose it). I'm leasing my Smart and I have
to send two checks
EVWest sells it for $9.49/foot. EVTV is $11.95/foot. I doubt you'll find
anything significantly less expensive. I elected to use unshielded to
save some money and also measured very carefully by using rope before I
ordered the cable. I still ordered a couple feet extra and I have a
single 18"
On 01/27/2016 01:33 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
Space-saving urban vehicle, in places where there is not much space
I suspect that the Smart ED (great choice of initials there) might have that
niche locked up already. It's not a very big niche, either. Last year Smart
sold 1,387 of
I consider it a great honor that I joined the New England Electric Auto
Association (NEEAA) when Bob was president of the chapter. The meetings
were held at his house and he always cooked up a rockin' chili. The
collection of odds-and-ends and vehicles at his place was always very
interesting.
On 01/07/2016 01:51 AM, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote:
I would like to hear what people are doing for L2 charging at home?
I see that evseupgrade offers an upgrade of the L1 charger...
about $300
They also offer pre-upgraded chargers for about $675
which would give me the option of leaving one
you get a
main relay of sufficient capacity, as the first one I built only had a 20 amp /
240v (4.8 kW) max. Installing a 30 amp version takes the same amount of time
and physical space, and only costs a few dollars more.
Tom Keenan
On Dec 10, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Rick Beebe via EV <
If it was me and ClipperCreek didn't give me the response I wanted I'd
take out the board and replace it with an OpenEVSE. I've built two
OpenEVSE units and they've both worked flawlessly.
http://store.openevse.com/ and https://code.google.com/p/open-evse/
--Rick
On 12/9/2015 4:46 PM, Steven
On 12/6/2015 12:17 PM, Bill Dube via EV wrote:
3) The furnace had to be "stoked" multiple times per day. You might be
lucky and have an automatic system that fed coal into the furnace and
perhaps was somehow regulated by demand (and not manually.) If you
were not so lucky, you had to hand
On 12/01/2015 01:00 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
On 1 Dec 2015 at 5:34, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
powered by ... four in-wheel motors, and a new two-speed transmission.
Eh? Leaving aside the well known (though apparently not to these folks)
wheel motor problem of unsprung mass, why
On 12/01/2015 01:00 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
On 1 Dec 2015 at 5:34, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
powered by ... four in-wheel motors, and a new two-speed transmission.
Eh? Leaving aside the well known (though apparently not to these folks)
wheel motor problem of unsprung mass, why
On 11/14/2015 04:32 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
http://savannahnow.com/share/blog-post/mary-landers/2015-11-12/electric-car-pollution-calculator
Electric car pollution calculator
2015-11-12 Mary Landers
I also had to pay the newly instituted Georgia electric vehicle fuel tax in
September, a
Well technically Solar Impulse hasn't crossed the channel yet. It
started in Abu Dhabi heading eastward and is now in Hawaii. Certainly
crossing half of the Pacific beats the hell out of crossing the Channel,
though.
--Rick
On 07/09/2015 08:39 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
What about
It's not really a new problem. It's always been hard to find someone
interested in buying a conversion, except, perhaps, from with your local
EV interest group.
One of the members of our local EAA chapter converted a 1998 Ford Ranger
in 2007. 120 volt, 24 6-volt lead-acid batteries, Russco
I put a Battery Tender 10Ah 12v replacement battery in my EV and it's
been working great. Very small and very light. Three would cost $300 so
it's not as cheap as the Chinese duct-tape packs you can buy off eBay
but has the advantage that you can replace it in thirds if needed.
--Rick
On
I would argue that you're living or working in the wrong place. 42 miles
each way is a waste of your time and of gasoline or electricity.
--Rick
On 05/19/2015 01:05 PM, Arak Leatham via EV wrote:
I admit I'm not sure how that plays out for everyone.
I had the decision myself recently, I
On 05/14/2015 12:21 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
Worse...I don't think I've ever seen anything bigger than a 220V / 50A
breaker in a residential panel -- though, granted, I'm certainly not
an electrician.
I have an 80A breaker in my panel for the 15Kw backup heat in our
air-source heat pump.
Might be worth checking out the lease options. I'm leasing a Smart ED
for $124/mo with $250 down. A Smart's not the best freeway car but it's
great around town. I've seen deals on Leafs for under $250/month.
--Rick
On 05/06/2015 04:50 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
So, my parents are okay. But,
I have a 2013 C-MAX Energi with 18,000 miles on it. No real complaints.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.
--Rick
On 04/24/2015 07:50 PM, Ed Thorpe via EV wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone on the list bought a ford plugin cmax car or suv? I'm
familier with how the toyotas are
On 3/28/2015 6:48 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
From: Roger Daisley
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015
After five years in my '86 VW Cabbie, my 96v flooded pack is ready for
replacement. I plan on adding two more batteries under the back seat floor,
using the Electro-Automotive kit, boosting to 108v.
My
On 02/25/2015 01:18 PM, Danpatgal via EV wrote:
Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list wrote
An example is Powerstream
Batteries lt;http://www.powerstream.com/LLLF.htmgt; show in their
specifications charge down to -40 C.
I just looked at that, and I read the charge temperature range
Nice. A guy I know here used to have a newer version of that converted
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Nice little vehicle.
1) Not aerodynamic, but fairly light weight at 1600lbs (less without
the ICE), would this be a good car to convert?
A guy I know here used to have a newer version of
that converted to electric. I think it would be a great
Wow that's a pretty good looking unit for a good price. When I converted
my truck from lead-acid to lithium (and a new charger) I also put in a
J-1772 and I'm happy I did. The J-1772 signal processing is handled by a
ModularEV AVC2 which is inexpensive and has performed flawlessly. Having
that
Also check out Jehu's travails with it on http://www.electricsamba.com/
Personally I went with a CAN-Bus controlled TC Charger and Arduino-based
controller. I bought this 4kW one:
http://store.evtv.me/proddetail.php?prod=168vcharger
It's $1895. A 3kW one is only $1395
On 01/14/2015 11:39 AM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
I hadn't heard of heat pump water heaters before this discussion.
Something like that could, indeed, tip the balance.
What happens to the cold side of the heat pump? Can that be used to
reduce air conditioning load in summer?
Certainly,
In the case where there are plenty of usable parts they'll often pay you
some nominal amount for the car. Otherwise they'll either just take it
or you'll have to pay them (something around $50 in my experience).
Since yours is just a rolling chassis I'm going to bet on one of the
latter two.
On 01/12/2015 07:19 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
PV is simpler you don't have to do anything at all different to get the
power into the heater (or heat pump). I actually have never talked to
anyone who uses a heat pump water heater. Everyone just goes with
resistance heating. It is by far
On 12/21/2014 03:24 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
So, I have my roof covered with solar panels. And Salt River Project,
my utility, is threatening to at least triple monthly basic
connection fees for solar customers.
I've decided that's not an option for me. Before I pay such Danegeld,
I'll get a
You can't guarantee that any random EVSE you drive up to will only put
out 30A so a 40A cord gives you a little extra margin. HOWEVER, the
important number is what your car will draw. If your car charger can't
draw more than 25A or so, then I agree. A 40A cord is overkill.
Personally I'd be
I have two of them and am very happy with them. Both builds are detailed
on the OpenEVSE website. The fact they he's now put together a complete
kit makes it even less expensive.
--Rick
On 12/13/2014 10:02 AM, tomw via EV wrote:
If you want something portable, might also consider the
On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:22 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV
ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I see significant advantages to battery leasing, but I wouldn't buy
a Renault with a leased battery, solely because they threaten to
disable the battery if you don't keep up the lease payments.
I'm not sure I see
On 12/05/2014 01:56 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
On 5 Dec 2014 at 13:48, Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
I'm not sure I see the advantage of battery leasing If I lease it
I have to fix it but if I rent it the rental company has to fix or
replace it.
I guess I never considered
On 11/19/2014 10:59 AM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
Range anxiety doesn't so much come from the range of the vehicle
but the ability to charge.
That's a good point. You can argue all day about the relative merits
of
On 11/06/2014 09:57 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Alan Brinkman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
How about a used Volt? Or a used Leaf and a low cost beater ICE as
a backup? Or a used Smart electric car with a used ICE beater?
All suggestions I made.
I have a Ford
On 11/07/2014 10:50 AM, Paul Dove via EV wrote:
Not really! The government must collect taxes to pay for roads.
Previously it was done by taxing fuel. You can tax electricity to pay
for roads because how would you know which part went into the
vehicle. So they have to devise another way
The
I had the same problem. What finally worked for me was to tee in a
bottle (I used a regular coolant overflow bottle) to the line leading to
the pump. I also have a brass tee with a plug at the highest point in
the system in the line leading from the tank. I opened that to let air out.
First I
On 10/15/2014 03:04 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Michael Ross michael.e.r...@gmail.com
wrote:
I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home.
Need? Obviously not. Want? Who wouldn't?
I don't need or want it. But if I lived in an apartment building where
I have a JLD-404 that I use as a fuel gauge and it's worked flawlessly
for that. It seems to be pretty accurate. I have bought things from EVTV
even though they are more expensive than other sources, but these I buy
right from lightobject because Jack has cranked up the price way too
much.
On 10/02/2014 01:15 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
Except that consumers have rights that the courts have long upheld.
1. Businesses must sell to consumers on a non-discriminatory basis.
They can't blacklist certain people.
No but I suppose they CAN refuse to sell some parts to anybody which
is
A copy of the form was attached to the original news item I read about
this so I have read it. It doesn't say Tesla can take his car but it
does say that before they would reactivate the car he had to take it to
Tesla to be inspected at his expense (other sources say that Tesla says
they won't
On 09/25/2014 07:47 PM, George Tyler via EV wrote:
Well, I am also a bit senior! Elon Musk wants to see an electric car
industry develop. Current new EV's are the only way in which most people can
get them, but they are too expensive for most people. The conversions could
cost less, there are
On 8/28/2014 5:49 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
On Aug 28, 2014, at 2:26 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV
ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
From what I've read, part of the idea behind their lease - they'll
sell you the car, but not the battery - is to keep the car's
selling price low. I think the battery
If people believe this the end result will be dramatic lessening of the
value of used EVs. That said it's not really fair comparing the monthly
cost of a lease against a purchase. At the end of those 3 years the
lessee will have to get another car whereas the purchaser may go for a
number of years
I would look at the JLD404 from LightObject
(http://www.lightobject.com/Programmable-Digital-AH-meter-red-led-Ideal-for-battery-monitoring-P870.aspx).
It can monitor battery voltage, amps or count Amp-Hours and has two
relays in it which can trigger on high or low values of any of them. Use
it to
I have a Ford C-Max Energi plug-in hybrid and a Smart ED both of which
are AC with regen. Regen on the Smart is more aggressive meaning you
really can do one-foot driving. Once I got used to it I found I like it
and, of course, you can still find that spot on the pedal that allows
coasting.
REAP Systems in England did test that in a lab last year. You can see a
video presentation they did on the EVTV web site. Go to video archives,
August 16, 2013. A direct link is
http://media3.ev-tv.me/news081613-iPhone.m4v. The presentation starts at
23 minutes and the results are around 36
Happy to help but the video is private. You can make it public but not
published so that we can see it but it won't show up to random youtube
browsers.
--Rick
On 7/17/2014 4:20 PM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote:
Dear Friends on the EVDL,
I feel you represent the BEST in an active group of
$5 million divided by 90 cars is over $55,000 each. Even if the 5
charging stations cost $100,000 EACH that's still $50,000 per car.
Someone's making out like a bandit on this deal.
--Rick
On 7/16/2014 6:00 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
The six cities, two counties and two water agencies have
Smart ED: ~377 (=25700/68)
Leaf: ~427 (=32000/75)
i3: ~511 (=43000/81)
Tesla-S: ~337 (=7/208)
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I can agree with this statement: The smart EV driver who understands
the real value-promise of EV's where they do best (overnight charging
and daily use) actually looks for the smallest battery that meets their
routine needs, not the biggest but the rest of your argument is pretty
fanciful.
The
I have 9.3kw of SolarCity cells on my house using their Power Purchase
Agreement (PPA) and they've been great to work with. With a PPA I
basically agreed to buy all the electricity the panels produce. They
would have installed it with absolutely no money out of my pocket but I
elected to pay them
On 06/29/2014 03:57 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
It appears to me that EVs have not yet been a success in postal delivery. I
can't understand why not. Anyone with other (I hope more positive)
information please post it.
David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator
Our
Not true here. Every one involved in my installation was a SolarCity
employee. That said, they've been growing so fast that they have a hard
time hiring enough people so maybe in some places they are
subcontracting the installation out. There are 20 installer/electrician
jobs on their website
No, just $0 generation/distribution. I have to pay $16.50 as a base
connect/govt fee charge.
--Rick
On 06/30/2014 12:44 PM, Michael Ross wrote:
Do you really get a $0 utility bills? According to my utility Duke
Progess you should be ashamed of your self hanging infrastructure costs
on poor
There's compliance and then there's compliance. There are, I believe, 7
states other than California that have ZEV mandates as well. I was able
to get a Smart ED because I live in one of them. But I can't get a Honda
FIT or Spark EV or Fiat 500e because those are California only. I
presume Honda,
On 05/27/2014 01:09 PM, George Wagner via EV wrote:
Is there a problem with using the same conduit to contain the main
traction cables (2/0 cable), charging cable (#6 wire) and BMS wiring
(#12 wire)? The run would be about 5' in PVC conduit.
I'm not sure about the legality in a car. In a
don't have a separate 12V house battery in the
lawn tractor. Are you using an isolated dc-dc converter in your truck?
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I have one in my truck and it works great. It wants a 75mV shunt but I
have a 50mV/500A. You just
I have one in my truck and it works great. It wants a 75mV shunt but I
have a 50mV/500A. You just lie the meter--I.e. I said it was connected
to a 75mV/750A shunt.
The manual is available here:
http://www.lightobject.info/viewtopic.php?f=14t=1074
Jack Rickard of EVTV has written a plain english
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