Re: [EVDL] 14/50 240V vs 6-50 (3 wire) receptacle for EV charge controllers

Hi All, The 14-50 is the standard for 50 Amp use because many appliances utilize the 120 volt option for display functions. -Tom True On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 1:29 PM Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > Hi folks > Not to stir up another firestorm again - but I was curious why a 14/50 > 240V socket was

Re: [EVDL] EV's not a green success.

I find it difficult to believe that we are once again being drawn into the argument that the grid cannot support the demand for EV's. Society has been in this situation several times since the early 1900's. With each new electrical product's popularity (televisions, refrigerators, air

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1204-015 controler replace or repair?

Hi David, Send an inquiry to Roderick @v intagegolfcartparts.com He has over 25 years experience with these things! -Tom On Mon, Jun 26, 2023, 9:44 PM David Nelson via EV wrote: > Hi, > > I have a 1993 Club Car 36V golf cart I'm trying to resurrect for a > charitable

Re: [EVDL] Tires

Hi Lee, An option that might be worth considering would be to check wrecking yards for 14' or 15" wheels with the same bolt pattern. i have done this in the past with Subaru and Geo Metro projects. Discount Tire has an online conversion chart that is helpful. Their prices and brand selection

Re: [EVDL] battery heaters

Hi Nathan, Back in the days of lead-acid, we used water bed heaters under the batteries to get them to an optimal temp for charging and discharging (about 100 degrees F). I'm thinking that you are looking to keep your pack more in the area of 50 degrees, but I expect that the same method would

Re: [EVDL] "Green Envy" is off to Lake Gairner, South Australia!

That looks like a hell of an adventure! Best of luck, and may all of your preparations make for yet another successful event. -Tom True On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 6:14 AM Pestka Dennis via EV wrote: > Good Luck and Safe Travels to Bill and Eva ! > > Dennis and Marcy Pestka >

Re: [EVDL] EVfire (dated 20170825 Lake_Forest-CA): Tesla on fire ... (v)

Hello Bruce and all, I was thinking that another tactic to counter the publicity of the EV fires is to share data about vehicle fires in general, and compare that with fire data of electric vehicles. It might start with a table like this one from the NFPA (the same folks that prove the code books

Re: [EVDL] Nissan Leaf key: $300! Yikes

This isn't just a Leaf or Prius issue. This is the standard for any programmable key/ key fob. Several people over the past few years, myself included, have misplace their key/ fob on a newer vehicle only to find that the fob costs $100 plus, and the programming is about $200, if you are lucky.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20180302

Bruce, I am very happy to see that you are feeling better. You seem to have a ton of energy, as shown by the sheer volume of recent posts. Glad that you are back! -Tom True On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 8:27 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > >

Re: [EVDL] EVnewswire status: heart, again

Bruce, Keep up the good fight, and I hope that you get the heart back on track soon. Charge on! -Tom True On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 11:30 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > afib heart problems, again ... > > I felt awful last night. my blood pressure meter kept giving odd

Re: [EVDL] Good News: EVs Are Not Crashing the Grid

other big screen TVs got big, various parts of my city had > >> serious issues with power outages, as the system wasn't designed for > those > >> loads. And these weren't areas that had been there for 100 years. > >> Relatively new housing developments had continu

Re: [EVDL] Good News: EVs Are Not Crashing the Grid

developments had continuing power problems. Our > > City Council had to really squeeze the utility to get capacity increased > to > > handle the loads. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jan 1, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Thos True via EV <ev@lists.evdl.or

Re: [EVDL] Good News: EVs Are Not Crashing the Grid

Peri & All, I recall addressing this fear about a decade ago when it the fear was being pushed by mainstream media. The reality is no different than events that have occurred many times since the inception of the electrical grid. It is interesting that the utilities seem to do their best to avoid

Re: [EVDL] OMG Tesla semi with a suprise in the trailer.

Did anybody else notice the dually pickup that was also briefly shown? I had a diesel dually that I used for hauling the vehicles to events for several years, and really enjoyed the stability. Especially when compared to a standard pick up or even the beefed up 3/4 ton Suburban that we also used

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Bigfoot #20 monster Electric-truck in epic Mad Max (eon.com pr) race (v)

> > > On Saturday, November 11, 2017 12:25 PM, Thos True via EV < > ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > Very impressive array! I remember Rich Rudman and I fantasizing about > doing > a monster truck back in the late '90sGreat to see things moving along > this

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Bigfoot #20 monster Electric-truck in epic Mad Max (eon.com pr) race (v)

Very impressive array! I remember Rich Rudman and I fantasizing about doing a monster truck back in the late '90sGreat to see things moving along this path. -Tom True On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 1:54 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > % ... Bigfoot #20 monster e-truck

Re: [EVDL] 318 miles on a Chevy Bolt 150 miles on a Leaf..how is this possible?

On a 75 degree day in 2012, I drove our 2011 Leaf 127 miles with 30 miles showing on the available range, (Of course, I also drove it at 26 degrees on a winter morning and had 26 miles of range showing after driving 18 miles (with a lot of hills)). On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Lawrence Rhodes

Re: [EVDL] Any truth in these claims?

As much as I want to hear more positive news about new and exciting ideas about increasing efficiency and reducing our impact on the planet, it pains me to continue to waste time and energy on technologies that have been been debunked exhaustively over and over again. Gotta give the old boys

Re: [EVDL] Interesting article from 1967.

Larry, Great find! I remember finding the Popular Mechanics article about the Corvolt (1967, if I recall). Of course as soon as the issue came out, GM scuttled the project. I can't help but wonder where we would be if they hadn't got in their own way. -Tom On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:23 AM,

Re: [EVDL] battery heating pads

We have had excellent results using water bed heaters in our projects. -Tom On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Rick Beebe via EV wrote: > I have 4 battery boxes for my LiFePo4 cells. Two hold 8 cells, one holds > 12, and the big one holds 28. They are aluminum boxes I had made

Re: [EVDL] Electrical Safety...

Matt, Having been involved with building (and rebuilding), and racing EV's for a couple of decades, I have found the heat shrink tube method preferable, but in situations where this is not readily available, other methods also work. The two most common are wrapping the exposed ends in at least 2

Re: [EVDL] Blew my Curtis 1231C Controller - repair procedures?

Jay, I too would steer clear from the Kelly controller. We tested a couple of these when they first started selling in the states (they were looking for distributors). We found that the specs were overstated (possibly peak level at best). Smoked both units well before expectations. I would go

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

As I recall, the 2011 Nissan Leaf that we had made a Jetson spaceship type of sound at low speeds. Not very loud or obnoxious, but definitely not sound that was produced by the drive train. I asked the dealership about it, and was told that it was a voluntary action in a proactive effort by

Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs

Nope, not the least bit surprised by this proposal. This is woefully predictable, with the advent of citizens united allowing the big oil guys to provide unlimited support for their chosen lawmakers, and a great amount of misdirection by the "unbiased" media. Is it any surprise that we now have

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

Bush Jr. did it one swipe of the pen during his first 100 days. I remember it clearly, within days of his CAFE action, the sales of conversion kits at our shop dropped immediately, and never recovered. The auto makers stopped selling NEV's, and the hybrids scaled their production way back. You can

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

It does not even begin to end at the EV / PV level. You can expect an effort to repeal any and all EPA regulations, among others. I dare say that we have dipped our toe into the perverbial Pandora's box of reality the likes of which we may never have imagined. Buckle up folks, this looks to be a

Re: [EVDL] Best charge rate for longevity

Rush and All, I agree that the information can be quite confusing. I tried my best to make it clear that what the engineer told me. It was that 0% on the instrumentation is about 20% in the pack, and that 100% on the instrumentation is about 80% in the pack. Thjis was the best that they could do

Re: [EVDL] To fully charge or not to fully charge that isthequestion

e situation. > > Peri > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Thos True via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: "Cor van de Water" <cwa...@proxim.com>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion > List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Sent: 05-Oct-16 7:0

Re: [EVDL] To fully charge or not to fully charge that isthequestion

I'm not sure why this keeps coming back to roost. Some people on this list may recall the same conversation back in the spring of 2011, where I contacted Nissan about the 80% issue. I received a phone call from one of the engineers in Tennessee. He understood my confusion and expressed some

Re: [EVDL] Electron Automotive - Any experiences?

What are the codes exactly? some are specific, others tend to be systematic. If systematic, replacing a damaged component can correct several codes. If specific, then it favors the dealers sensor replacement model. Just my 2 watts worth, Tom On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Michael Kadie via EV

Re: [EVDL] Used EV's for sale on Autotrader

Tom, I agree with your theory. We leased a 2011 Leaf, and opted to return it rather than buy it out. The primary reason was one of economics. They wanted significantly more for the remainder than the car was worth on the open market. For example, we found that we could buy a model year newer with

Re: [EVDL] Pop-starting a stick shift?

It likely has to do with the neutral safety switch that became mandatory in new cars a couple of decades ago. -Tom On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > This is the only car group I know. So pardon the off-topic post. > > > > A young kid with a

Re: [EVDL] Shock and Awe - Historic run 9.589 Seconds @ 152 MPH!!!

Congratulations to a great team effort! In the '90s, I was trying to locate a funny car chassis to try something along these lines. Great to see the concept finally coming to the forefront. Again, Congratulations and keep up the great work! Also, it caught my attention when I saw the person

Re: [EVDL] Dead accessory battery (was: Shock and Awe - Historic run 9.589 Seconds @ 152 MPH!!!)

Hi Bill, I have to heartily agree that the dead accessory battery happens to everyone at one time or another (Murphy dictates how difficult the timing will be). I recall that we developed the habit of having at least one back up battery just for such a situation. We usually had a couple of the

Re: [EVDL] Modified Sine Wave Heating

We used waterbed heaters under the packs in the Silver Bullet without any issues for more than 4 years, setting 8 consecutive records. Found them to be very durable. Not sure that I would place the same amount of faith in a electric blanket, as the conductors are not very well protected under the

Re: [EVDL] Are other safety certifications accepted by cities & insurance?

In my many years of doing electrical work and installing a wide variety of electrical equipment, I have run into this issue numerous times. Due to the vigilant marketing by UL labs, most electrical inspectors are usually looking for that label. However, I have had reasonable success in getting

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Peter, I believe that the units that are cited have factory installed cord ends. Installing a cord cap on a device approved for direct connection can be argued as a safety feature (means for emergency disconnection), though it may be a tough sell. -Tom On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:01 AM, EVDL

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Agreed Peter. Of course, once you have the 4 square box present with the decided upon conductors, the receptacle (or lack of) is academic.. I do recommend a minimum conductor size of #8 however to allow for future upgrades at a minimal expense. -Tom On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Peter C.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Good to see this post. As an electrician who has done many of these retrofitted and a few new construction EVSE circuit installations, I tend to agree with most of the advice given. I have found that the easiest way to explain the idea to most potential EV owners is to describe it as a welding

Re: [EVDL] Watts the CD of the Sparrow EV #13?

:47 AM, Willie2 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > On 03/05/2016 10:14 AM, Thos True via EV wrote: > >> Might I recommend a donation or at least a display at the Historical >> Electric Vehicle Museum? A Sparrow would be a great addition to their >> existing display!

Re: [EVDL] Watts the CD of the Sparrow EV #13?

Might I recommend a donation or at least a display at the Historical Electric Vehicle Museum? A Sparrow would be a great addition to their existing display! Feel free to contact Roderick Wilde or myself for more information. Best Regards, Tom True On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 1:34 AM, brucedp5 via EV

Re: [EVDL] Wiring for 6 KW charger

Hi Seth, Do you have any pictures of the parts that you are asking about? My gut tells me that you may be able to bond the ground wire to the outlet box. Perhaps the better alternative would be to replace your existing circuit breaker with a GFCI circuit breaker. -Tom On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at

Re: [EVDL] Installing External Charge Access

You can buy a Clipper Creek unit on Amazon for a price of $400 -$600, making your use to friends (both current and newly found) much more convenient. If we were expected to carry our L2 with us everywhere that we went, most public installations would be a simple Nema 14-50 receptacle. Which would

Re: [EVDL] Updated: Outdoor home EVSE: Installing External ChargeAccess

In my experience of installing EVSE locations over the past several years, I have found the following to be most common. A dedicated (meaning that the 20 Amp breaker serves only the one outlet) 120 volt, 20 Amp receptacle (usually spec grade or higher) for level for the L1. For L2, a 230 volt, 50

Re: [EVDL] Books on converting a car to ev?

Yes I tend to agree that buying a used Leaf is a great solution for most of us (I did the 3 year lease), it is also a great experience to build your own project. I have been part of several of these as well over the past 2 decades. I have always liked the prospects of truck conversions. Mostly

Re: [EVDL] Books on converting a car to ev?

Hi Bob, Build you own electric vehicle by Bob Brant. It is available at Amazon and on Kindle. It gives excellent pointers, even if some of the info is dated. The beauty of electric vehicles is that typically, each of the basic components can be changed or updated with little regard to the others

Re: [EVDL] Coal in Your Stocking

As did the relatively easy conversion to heating oil based furnaces. Many oil distributors started as coal and kerosene delivery businesses. -Tom On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 5:00 AM, ralph bagwell via EV wrote: > Piped natural gas helped end much coal use > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015

Re: [EVDL] Last call for LeSled

Hi All, Having been in this trade for many years now, I have found this to be an all too common fate for many EV projects. I personally have close to a dozen EVs that are waiting to see new batteries, but are otherwise in perfect or near perfect running condition. The lead technology of the past

Re: [EVDL] DIY EV air conditioning?

I recall seeing a few seat covers over the past couple of decades that used the 12v plug in the do both heating and cooling. most were less than $250, if I recall. -Tom On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: So, I can imagine all sorts of ways that one might

Re: [EVDL] Tesla S trip

Me too!n Would love to hear more details about that part of the trip. Those are the kind of details that make these posts relevant! -Tom On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I'm curious about the running out case. Were you testing limits? Was a

Re: [EVDL] article: World’s first 1 megawatt all-electric race car to compete at Pikes Peak

Yes Roger, We did re-purpose 3 of the Megawatt's motors in the Silver bullet, which went on to set 8 consecutive world records in one voltage class. This set up was also the impetus for the rule of setting a record in one voltage class per Nedra event (We set a new record in 3 voltage classes in

Re: [EVDL] postal delivery

Might be an idea to talk with some of these carriers to determine the range needed for the rural routes. I suspect that many of them travel less than 50 miles per day, which would make a Leaf the perfect vehicle (Bonus point: As I understand it, it can be ordered with right hand drive, as it is

Re: [EVDL] postal delivery

In the rural areas of western Washington that I grew up in, it was not uncommon to see the mail delivery being done with a personal vehicle. The carrier was paid a vehicle stipend, so the more fuel efficient the vehicle, the better for them. I remember more than one using a VW bug back in the

Re: [EVDL] Insurance Woes

I've had great success with Allstate. For my conversions, it usually becomes a stated value policy, with the premiums based on replacement value. They generally do not have an issue with alternative fuels, since the policy is based on the value of the vehicle. -Tom On Mar 10, 2015 11:37 AM, Bill

Re: [EVDL] Help! - Double motor failure!

. In my experience, the motor or brush assembly are rarely the initial cause, just the victim. On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On 22 Feb 2015 at 7:41, Thos True via EV wrote: This leads me to think that there is a new problem with the drive

Re: [EVDL] Help! - Double motor failure!

Perhaps we should go back to the basics here...Dan tells us that everything worked fine for 2 years (seasons), then he burned up 2 motors, the 2nd one almost immediately. This leads me to think that there is a new problem with the drive function, creating a large amount of drag. I would be looking

Re: [EVDL] Know your public EVSE: Turning over a new Leaf...

Of course, he could also use the built in locating function that is part of the car wings system that is an integral part of every Leaf. It will list all nearby charging locations that have been uploaded to their system. On Dec 13, 2014 4:09 PM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

Re: [EVDL] OT: status the newswires are changing, (L1 CORRECTION!)

Hi Ben, Just wondering how much does it cost you to charge your EV? My typical cost in power to recharge my Leaf daily was less than $15/ month or about 50 cents per day/charge, averaging about 60 miles per day 6 days per week. And to the others here, regarding 120 volt plug ins everywhere...this

Re: [EVDL] OT: Alive, back-home after-surgery, and working on getting well ...

Glad to hear that all went better than expected! Welcome back, and I for one am anxiously awaiting the new posts. -Tom On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Tom Keenan via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Glad everything went well, and welcome back! Tom Keenan On Oct 10, 2014, at 1:35 AM, brucedp5

Re: [EVDL] afk ...

Bruce, I too hope that you recover quickly. I enjoy the posts that you generate. I also hope that you are grooming someone to help with the continuation of these posts during any future absences. I am certain that I speak for many viewers of the EVDL when I say that your posts are among the most

Re: [EVDL] BiPolar NiMH (was: Kawasaki Concept J 3wheel GIGACELL powered EV)

Hey Bill, Do you think that the stall seen in NiMH technology has anything to do with the shelving of the production of batteries that occurred after the patent was bought up (and the interest in said technology now that the patent has expired)? On Sep 9, 2014 1:40 PM, Bill Dube via EV

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Menacing Copper-Theives A 'Cut Steal' EVSE Scourge

When we were first debating the L2 charging concepts over 5 years ago, I repeatedly questioned the concept of having a cord connected charging base, rather than a basic plug in one where that vehicle owner supplies their own cord. I suggested this due to our experiences with vandalism to the

Re: [EVDL] jeep review posted

Nicely done Ben! -Tom True On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Ben Jarrett via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Hi All, FYI, I just posted a video review of my electric CJ7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmQacVCwTEUfeature=youtu.be -ben www.evalbum.com/4001 -- next part

Re: [EVDL] Suitcase EV.

They just featured a race on the Tonight show a couple of weeks ago using the electric ice chests. Kinda lets you know that the EV concept has made it into the mainstream when you see things like that. -Tom On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Mike Shipway via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I've seen

Re: [EVDL] Suitcase EV.

Roderick Wilde drew up a basic design for a similar concept in the late '90s after traveling through airports trying to keep up with the busy Nedra schedule of those days. We were doing a lot of modifications of the Zappy scooters at that time! FT was neck deep in these designs come to think of

Re: [EVDL] Talked with Bruce

Bruce, Great to hear the report. It is a sad reality that we often plan more projects than we can ever complete. I have been working on reducing / grading the backlog of projects that both myself and my Dad started over the past 10 years. It seems like there is never enough time to get it all

Re: [EVDL] Talked with Bruce

By the way, I noticed an early AM set of posts of gleaned articles by Bruce. Great to have you back! (loved the article about SEVA!). -Tom On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Thos True evpa...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, Great to hear the report. It is a sad reality that we often plan more

Re: [EVDL] Drag racing icon Garlits sets electric vehicle record.

How AWESOME is that! Setting records at 82 years of age...makes you wonder what a 41 year old could do, huh? Congrats to the team! -Tom On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Lawrence Rhodes primobass...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Drag racing icon Garlits sets electric-vehicle record Posted by: Remy