Re: [EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ...
In the article, I see nothing that says either than Tesla has maxed out on its credits, or that they would be better off with the elimination of the tax credit. The credits that Musk says are a "crummy business" are not the tax credits we are talking about. Those are California ZEV credits, which Tesla can sell to others. Even though they are a "crummy business", the ZEV credits are responsible for he profitable quarter, though they can't monetize them to the extent they think they should. Sent from AltaMail From: Paul Dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> To: ma...@enviropolicy.com, Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ... Date: 12/26/16, 6:19 AM According to Elon Musk the elimination of the $7,500 tax credit would be good for Tesla. He says Tesla has extra and can only get Saying that the "CARB ZEV credit mandate is incredibly weak" and insisting that it "needs to be fixed," Musk went on to say that ZEV credits are actually a crummy business for Tesla."There were some quarters where we simply cannot even find a buyer for credits," he said. "And then when we can find a buyer, it's typically fifty cents on the dollar for the ZEV credits"http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-zev-credits-ok-2016-10 Sent from my iPad On Dec 25, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: Not quite yet. The tax credit is for actual sales. Tesla isn't close yet, though they think that they will hit the 200k in Q3 2018. Sent from AltaMail From: rayfellow via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ... Date: 12/25/16, 3:12 PM The elimination of the $7,500 tax break associated with EVs would be beneficial to Tesla since they have just about used up their allotted 200,000 production allotted to each manufacture. It would level the playing field for them. Of Course it would hurt those who still have only partially used their allotment. For example it would make the Bolt and the Tesla 3 competitively priced, whereas with the 7.5 tax break, the Bolt will cost less when Tesla hits their limit. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-A-Bolt-EV-experience-tp4685025p4685075.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161225/6ff4ae8a/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161226/4523a15e/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ...
According to Elon Musk the elimination of the $7,500 tax credit would be good for Tesla. He says Tesla has extra and can only get Saying that the "CARB ZEV credit mandate is incredibly weak" and insisting that it "needs to be fixed," Musk went on to say that ZEV credits are actually a crummy business for Tesla. "There were some quarters where we simply cannot even find a buyer for credits," he said. "And then when we can find a buyer, it's typically fifty cents on the dollar for the ZEV credits" http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-zev-credits-ok-2016-10 Sent from my iPad > On Dec 25, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Not quite yet. > The tax credit is for actual sales. Tesla isn't close yet, though they think > that they will hit the 200k in Q3 2018. > > Sent from AltaMail > > > From: rayfellow via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: > [EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ... Date: 12/25/16, 3:12 PM > > > The elimination of the $7,500 tax break associated with EVs would be > beneficial to Tesla since they have just about used up their allotted > 200,000 production allotted to each manufacture. It would level the playing > field for them. > > Of Course it would hurt those who still have only partially used their > allotment. For example it would make the Bolt and the Tesla 3 competitively > priced, whereas with the 7.5 tax break, the Bolt will cost less when Tesla > hits their limit. > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-A-Bolt-EV-experience-tp4685025p4685075.html > > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161225/6ff4ae8a/attachment.htm> > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161226/46e45350/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ...
Not quite yet. The tax credit is for actual sales. Tesla isn't close yet, though they think that they will hit the 200k in Q3 2018. Sent from AltaMail From: rayfellow via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ... Date: 12/25/16, 3:12 PM The elimination of the $7,500 tax break associated with EVs would be beneficial to Tesla since they have just about used up their allotted 200,000 production allotted to each manufacture. It would level the playing field for them. Of Course it would hurt those who still have only partially used their allotment. For example it would make the Bolt and the Tesla 3 competitively priced, whereas with the 7.5 tax break, the Bolt will cost less when Tesla hits their limit. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-A-Bolt-EV-experience-tp4685025p4685075.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161225/6ff4ae8a/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ...
The elimination of the $7,500 tax break associated with EVs would be beneficial to Tesla since they have just about used up their allotted 200,000 production allotted to each manufacture. It would level the playing field for them. Of Course it would hurt those who still have only partially used their allotment. For example it would make the Bolt and the Tesla 3 competitively priced, whereas with the 7.5 tax break, the Bolt will cost less when Tesla hits their limit. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-A-Bolt-EV-experience-tp4685025p4685075.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ...
On 23 Dec 2016 at 2:01, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Bolt-EV-experience-td4685003.html Well written, Bruce. Thanks for posting this. > Question: would I buy a Bolt at this time. No, because I want to wait > and compare with what my $30k will get me when the Tesla-3 comes out. If you're in the US (speaking to the entire list here, not just Bruce) and plan to buy a new production EV, you might want to keep a close watch on what congress may do with the $7.5k tax credit in 2017. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] A Bolt EV experience ...
I put together a web page of the Bolt EV images I took, and put them together
with a description of my experiences test driving the Bolt EV, see
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