Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-18 Thread George Tyler via EV
It is clearly the sun causing the problem. Some years ago I was designing RFID readers for cow tags, I found that the tags themselves were sensitive to sunlight! In fact, any chip that does not have sunlight positively excluded is this meter will probably have a chip bonded to the bottom of

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-18 Thread Chris Meier via EV
Is it a specific band of sunlight, such as IR, that causes the effect? On March 18, 2015 5:18:45 AM CDT, George Tyler via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: It is clearly the sun causing the problem. Some years ago I was designing RFID readers for cow tags, I found that the tags themselves were

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Chris Meier via EV wrote: Is it a specific band of sunlight, such as IR, that causes the effect? It depends on exactly what part is being affected. Silicon devices (most ICs, transistors, and diode) are most affected by infrared light. LEDs are most affected by light of the same color as

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-18 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
https://youtu.be/xNy8IOlRkII This is an interesting video clip, not just for the strange behavior of the meter, but because you can REALLY tell that it's not in an EV. Wow, that is a noisy ICE! I suppose the meter question is peripherally related to EVs in the sense that a meter like this

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-18 Thread Sean Korb via EV
I think it would be good to experiment to find the wavelengths involved. There was a recent dustup about the Raspberry Pi II being camera shy. It was rebooting when photographed with a Xenon flash equipped camera. It turned out that chip U11 was photosensitive and the fix was to put a little

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-18 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Yes it was in my veggie diesel.  I posted here because the guys on the diesel list are not as savvy as the EV list concerning electronics.  It's a neat gizmo that is easier to use than the meters in our cars as it needs no wiring.   However my diesel is a solar vehicle of sorts.  I run it on

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-17 Thread Michael Ross via EV
If it wasn't for the possibly coincidental sunlight, I would say it looks like an electromechanical voltage regulator in action. A regulator might go as high as 14 and change, and when it stops charging the battery voltage shows and is load dependent - not steady. The change is kind of fast to

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-17 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water wrote: Electronic circuits (The silicon wafer that carries the transistors and other circuitry) is affected in its operation by light. That's a good possibility. Note that *any* semiconductor on the board (the micro, other chips, transistors, diodes, and even LEDs) might be

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-17 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
From: Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org Electronic circuits (The silicon wafer that carries the transistors and other circuitry) is affected in its operation by light. Just use the Car Guys (from NPR) method: put some black electrical tape over the display. Problem solved! :-)

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-17 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube If it wasn't for the possibly coincidental sunlight, I would say it looks like an electromechanical voltage regulator in action. A regulator might go as high

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-17 Thread Mark Grasser via EV
] On Behalf Of Lawrence Rhodes via EV Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 3:33 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube I suspect some sort of feedback via the LCD panel caused by sunlight. Using Ohm's law might shed some light...I don't know how

Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube

2015-03-17 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Of Lawrence Rhodes via EV Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 3:33 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Watch Malfunctioning meter. on YouTube I suspect some sort of feedback via the LCD panel caused by sunlight. Using Ohm's law might shed some light...I don't know how though