Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-06 Thread paul dove via EV
That’s still 37,000 usd to produce with no profit. For much less car than a Tesla. Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2019, at 12:31 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > >> On 5 May 2019 at 19:57, paul dove via EV wrote: >> >> Still it doesnTMt make a lot of >> sense because it says 29900

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 May 2019 at 19:57, paul dove via EV wrote: > Still it doesnTMt make a lot of > sense because it says 29900 euros or $47000 in Germany. Germany doesnTMt use > dollars so I assumed USD. > > But if they are loosing 4700 per car itTMs still more than a Tesla to build. It's an AUSTRALIAN

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-05 Thread paul dove via EV
Sorry my mistake I thought it said pounds. Still it doesn’t make a lot of sense because it says 29900 euros or $47000 in Germany. Germany doesn’t use dollars so I assumed USD. But if they are loosing 4700 per car it’s still more than a Tesla to build. Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2019, at

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 May 2019 at 6:25, paul dove via EV wrote: > You can get a Tesla cheaper than that without the incentive Really? How? AFAIK VW haven't announced a dollar price, or even whether they'll offer the ID here, but if you translate 29.9k Eur directly to US$ it would be US$33.6k at today's

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-05 Thread paul dove via EV
You can get a Tesla cheaper than that without the incentive Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2019, at 6:54 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > An entry ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 May 2019 at 13:20, Matt Lacey via EV wrote: > Likely the vw is measured on a more realistic cycle Figures for both EVs are on the (unrealistic) WLTP cycle. In theory, they should be comparable. AFAIK, VW hasn't published a "real world" range number yet. It will be interesting to see

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-04 Thread Matt Lacey via EV
The zoe gets 300km range in city driving in the real world. 400km is by the nedc measure,  which shouldn't be used for electric cars or hybrids (very low speed). Likely the vw is measured on a more realistic cycle ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​ On 5 May 2019, 12:53, at 12:53, EVDL Administrator via

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 May 2019 at 18:54, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The base variant will have a 48kWh battery pack and a WLTP range rating of 330 > kilometres. This model will be priced from ¬29,900 ($47,170) in Germany. > Government incentives in France will reduce the price to a more reasonable > ¬23,900

[EVDL] EVLN: VW lo$ing €3000 on each ID EV

2019-05-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://www.caradvice.com.au/751743/volkswagen-id-neo-losses/ Volkswagen to lose about $4700 on every electric ID hatch - report April 29, 2019 Derek Fung [image https://media.caradvice.com.au/image/private/c_fill,q_auto,f_auto,w_1024,ar_16:9/c29oflq1lapmjn2ccogk.jpg ] Details about the