Re: [EVDL] $10k bounty on Tesla-S hacks entices tinkerers, aggravates Tesla

2015-05-22 Thread Collin Kidder via EV
Yes, the article that had a blurb on the original post was about an app that uses the existing API. Tesla has no problem with that. There was also a link to a story about the $10k hacking contest. This is totally different. The goal of that contest is to gain unauthorized access to a Tesla you

Re: [EVDL] $10k bounty on Tesla-S hacks entices tinkerers, aggravates Tesla

2015-05-21 Thread David Nelson via EV
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Alan Arrison via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I am surprised that auto makers haven't locked down their systems with encryption. If they haven't yet they probably will if for no other reason than liability issues. What liability issues? There would be none. If

Re: [EVDL] $10k bounty on Tesla-S hacks entices tinkerers, aggravates Tesla

2015-05-21 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
In this specific case, the facts don't line up with the hype and the headlines. The Tesla hacks haven't modified the vehicles at all. The application is using the same API that the smart phone apps use. That allows the program to unlock doors, open the sunroof, turn on the AC, and collect

Re: [EVDL] $10k bounty on Tesla-S hacks entices tinkerers, aggravates Tesla

2015-05-21 Thread Mark Grasser via EV
On the flip side I remember a story about a boat owner that didn't like the factory fuel system on his boat so redid it himself. Gassed up one day, boat burned, disfigured his two daughters. He won in court against the boat manufacturer. Bring that here. A software genius modifies his Tesla, car

[EVDL] $10k bounty on Tesla-S hacks entices tinkerers, aggravates Tesla

2015-05-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-model-s-owners-write-new-code-for-their-electric-cars/ Some Tesla owners pimp their rides with code By Stephen Edelstein — May 18, 2015 [image http://icdn2.digitaltrends.com/image/2015-tesla-model-s-p85d-2.jpg Tesla Model S P85D EV ] Every since the

Re: [EVDL] $10k bounty on Tesla-S hacks entices tinkerers, aggravates Tesla

2015-05-20 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I am surprised that auto makers haven't locked down their systems with encryption. If they haven't yet they probably will if for no other reason than liability issues. Al On 5/20/2015 4:50 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Every since the first cars rolled out of factories, owners have been