Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-20 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
If I could have left a comment on the article making that exact point I would have... along with the fact that if this guy is that stupid (let alone stupid enough to allow such a ignorant comment to go onto the 'world wide web' for all to see) he a/ isn't fit to hold his current position and b/

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Mar 2015 at 8:53, tomw via EV wrote: The USPS has a long history of testing electric vehicles, starting in the late 1800's: https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/electric-vehicles.pdf Looks like it was mainly the suppliers who were responsible for them not being implemented.

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-20 Thread tomw via EV
The USPS has a long history of testing electric vehicles, starting in the late 1800's: https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/electric-vehicles.pdf Looks like it was mainly the suppliers who were responsible for them not being implemented. -- View this message in context:

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Hoegberg via EV Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:46 PM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric? To: ev@lists.evdl.org Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 20:06:48 + Subject: Re

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Lee wrote - I wonder what would happen if Tesla took a page from Apple, and offered free trial EVs to the Post Office? Like Apple offering free computers to schools, free got them hooked. Then they went on to spend billions of dollars to buy more. Apple got all their money back, and a lot

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: Lee wrote - I wonder what would happen if Tesla took a page from Apple, and offered free trial EVs to the Post Office? Like Apple offering free computers to schools, free got them hooked. Then they went on to spend billions of dollars to buy more. Apple got all

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
. Peri -- Original Message -- From: Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 19-Mar-15 2:04:00 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric? Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: Lee wrote - I wonder

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
Interesting story. I'm surprised that the story didn't mention hybrids. That seems like it would be ideal for postal delivery trucks. The energy from the frequent stops would be recaptured and could be used for acceleration. That is well developed technology for SUVs. Mike On March 19,

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread Michael Ross via EV
A hybrid basically, just takes care if idling does it not? The motive power is all ICE unless it is PiH. I don't mean to sniff at that, but just saying. I am in a mostly rural area, but rather dense, and I cannot imagine my carrier exceed the range of a Leaf for example. Here an EV might work

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 19, 2015, at 9:56 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: So, not many [miles], but more in a day than they would be able to if this was an electric car. I also got the distinct impression that he thinks that idling an electric vehicle eats into available range. His

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 Mar 2015 at 10:26, Ben Goren via EV wrote: I also got the distinct impression that he thinks that idling an electric vehicle eats into available range. To be fair, it does - if, as is likely, the driver uses aircon in the summer or heat in the winter. I don't think that the postal

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: A fuel-fired heater would be a practical answer for winter. Aircon might be a tougher problem. Over the years, the USPS has carried out several EV trials with small fleets in limited areas. I don't think they considered any of them successful. However, I'm

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread Hoegberg via EV
To: ev@lists.evdl.org Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 20:06:48 + Subject: Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric? From: ev@lists.evdl.org Actually, the Nissan e-NV200 could be an option. Here, in Seattle, the USPS

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Will replacement USPS mail-trucks be Electric?

2015-03-19 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 19, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: (*) My ICE minivan purportedly gets 25mph. But in the city, with stop and go, it's about 12mpg. My 1968 VW Westfalia does a lot better than 12 MPG even in the city b ___