Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1231c physical disassembly - cut the rear panel or not?

2017-01-10 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
> From: Robert Bruninga via EV > >> CFBs and LEDs are inherently more complex and costly >> than old incandescents. But we've "externalized" those costs >> (and their carbon footprint and energy of production) to China, >> which is using cheap coal for goods production ... >

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1231c physical disassembly - cut the rear panel or not?

2017-01-09 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> CFBs and LEDs are inherently more complex and costly > than old incandescents. But we’ve “externalized” those costs > (and their carbon footprint and energy of production) to China, > which is using cheap coal for goods production ... The excuse of "china" and their coal consumption is so 2008

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1231c physical disassembly - cut the rear panel or not?

2017-01-09 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
> From: Robert Bruninga via EV > > ... the demand on our > electric grid in the eastern seaboard Maryland and Wash DC has actually > gone DOWN by 20% not up as predicted. And most of it is due to the simple > step of switching from incandescent bulbs to CFL and LED's. I

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1231c physical disassembly - cut the rear panel or not?

2017-01-08 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> You know what? What makes our economy grow is energy. No, it is learning new things, applying them and hard work... > the American people are entitled to it, and if we're going improve > (sic) our standard of living, you have to consume more energy. Not if it is smart energy and less

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1231c physical disassembly - cut the rear panel or not?

2017-01-08 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/08/2017 04:46 PM, Jan Steinman via EV wrote: On 2017-01-08, at 13:04, via EV wrote: Warranty void if seal broken You can get 250 of these for $4.99 on evilBay! I’d guess anyone who was re-furbing controllers would have their own supply. It's certainly possible,

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1231c physical disassembly - cut the rear panel or not?

2017-01-08 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
> On 2017-01-08, at 13:04, via EV wrote: > > Warranty void if seal broken You can get 250 of these for $4.99 on evilBay! I’d guess anyone who was re-furbing controllers would have their own supply. You know what? What makes our economy grow is energy. And Americans are

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1231c physical disassembly - cut the rear panel or not?

2017-01-08 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/08/2017 01:50 PM, Lee Hart wrote: Jay Summet via EV wrote: Ok, curiosity got to me and I decided to open up my failed Curtis 1231c. The 8 screws on the bottom were only covered with two little rubber plugs (no potting compound) which is different from what I'd read about online. I

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1231c physical disassembly - cut the rear panel or not?

2017-01-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jay Summet via EV wrote: Ok, curiosity got to me and I decided to open up my failed Curtis 1231c. The 8 screws on the bottom were only covered with two little rubber plugs (no potting compound) which is different from what I'd read about online. I removed them. That means someone's been in

[EVDL] Curtis 1231c physical disassembly - cut the rear panel or not?

2017-01-08 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Ok, curiosity got to me and I decided to open up my failed Curtis 1231c. The 8 screws on the bottom were only covered with two little rubber plugs (no potting compound) which is different from what I'd read about online. I removed them. I then used a razer to cut all around the "front