Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 105, Issue 7

[Damon Henry via EV]

This is not just a Telsa feature, I was surprised to have a similar experience 
in a Toyota Camry I recently rented.  I was impressed with how much better it 
kept the car centered in the lane of the freeway compared to my 2016 Prius 
Prime, they have really tightened things up.  I was even more surprised when 
approaching quickly slowing freeway traffic. It started to brake for me then 
chimed and let go of the brakes... I was paying close attention and took over 
the braking immediately, but in the 2016 version it would have completely 
stopped me if required...

Damon

From: EV  on behalf of Justin Kenny via EV 

Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 1:27 PM
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Cc: Justin Kenny 
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 105, Issue 7

Autopilot will only safely bring you to a stop if autopilot can remain
engaged according to its rules that entire time. If a driver engages
autopilot, and the Tesla determines that it is a situation it can't handle
(e.g. a sharp curve in the road), it will kick you out with very little
warning. I think this skews the autopilot safety results.. for truly
dangerous situations it can't handle, well surely autopilot wouldn't be
engaged in an accident, since it would have kicked the user out of it
moments before the problem. I use autopilot quite a lot and am happy with
its ability to reduce driving fatigue for long boring drives, but I would
never trust it to be totally failsafe if I didn't touch the wheel, I've had
to make a couple quick wheel grabs for the situations I described.

- Justin


> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 11:05:30 -0700
> From: "(-pEEf-)" 
> To: Peri Hartman , Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: New York Times article about teen death by
> Tesla pic up truck on auto pilot is click bait.
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> It does this already (somewhat).  If you don't acknowledge the attention
> "nag" it requests, which is to place some slight force on the wheel from
> time to time, it will set off an alarm and ask you to take over.  If you
> don't, it will turn on the hazard flashers and slow to a stop.   Of course
> it's possible to keep force on the wheel enough to satisfy the nag, and
> still not pay attention to the road.
>
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 105, Issue 7

[Justin Kenny via EV]

Autopilot will only safely bring you to a stop if autopilot can remain
engaged according to its rules that entire time. If a driver engages
autopilot, and the Tesla determines that it is a situation it can't handle
(e.g. a sharp curve in the road), it will kick you out with very little
warning. I think this skews the autopilot safety results.. for truly
dangerous situations it can't handle, well surely autopilot wouldn't be
engaged in an accident, since it would have kicked the user out of it
moments before the problem. I use autopilot quite a lot and am happy with
its ability to reduce driving fatigue for long boring drives, but I would
never trust it to be totally failsafe if I didn't touch the wheel, I've had
to make a couple quick wheel grabs for the situations I described.

- Justin


> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 11:05:30 -0700
> From: "(-pEEf-)" 
> To: Peri Hartman , Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: New York Times article about teen death by
> Tesla pic up truck on auto pilot is click bait.
> Message-ID:
>  bfkvaxzb1n8pkxbdz+k0qbxgk7...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> It does this already (somewhat).  If you don't acknowledge the attention
> "nag" it requests, which is to place some slight force on the wheel from
> time to time, it will set off an alarm and ask you to take over.  If you
> don't, it will turn on the hazard flashers and slow to a stop.   Of course
> it's possible to keep force on the wheel enough to satisfy the nag, and
> still not pay attention to the road.
>
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