Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-14 Thread Tom Mandera via EV
But what if the difference between a 200 mile *advertised* pack and a real-world 80 miles is my excessive use of the heater at -20F along with running my vhf APRS and talking on HF at the same time - in the dark, with my high beams on?  :) 200 miles on a cool California fall day is a different

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-09 Thread Lee Hart via EV
One solution is to build EVs with quick-change battery packs. That's what we're trying on the Sunrise EV2. The batteries are in a drawer that slides out the front. With quick-change packs, you can use a cheap short-range pack for normal around-town driving. Or swap it for a light high-power

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-09 Thread Don Bradley via EV
I noticed on the Tesla website under Model S charging they have a charge time and cost calculator near the bottom of the page: http://www.teslamotors.com/charging#/calculator If you click up on the kind of outlet you use, you notice that 110 V 12A standard outlet is more costly and uses more

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-08 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
. Peri -- Original Message -- From: Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Ben Goren b...@trumpetpower.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org; brucedp5 bruce...@operamail.com Sent: 06-Mar-15 9:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-08 Thread Bob Bath via EV
...@operamail.com Sent: 06-Mar-15 9:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight It is ludicrous for someone to be paying for a 200 mile battery when all she needs is 80. As with everything else, there needs to be a variety. The smart EV shopper

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-08 Thread tomw via EV
/...But what's not irrelevant is our charging infrastructure. We're building out L3 charging which, I believe, will be too slow once 200+ mile range cars are out.../ I agree Peri. I think we failed to move from the lead-acid range mentality to anticipate longer range vehicles. Less than a

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:19 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: [T]he kind of developments being researched by BASF could very well pave the way to cars that could travel more than 1,000 miles on a battery

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight Isn't that a bit extreme? What about the many people who want to own only one car and normally drive 20 miles a day but once a week or so go out of town - to the mountains

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Robert Bruninga bruni...@usna.edu wrote: Sure, different strokes for different folks, but EV enthusiasts are shooting us in the foot when they claim that EV's are no viable until they have 200 mile batteries! That's not at all what I and others are doing. If you

[EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://transportevolved.com/2015/03/04/nimh-batteries-could-yet-again-power-electric-cars-says-basf-thanks-to-ten-fold-increase-in-energy-density/ NiMH Batteries Could Yet Again Power Electric Cars Says BASF, Thanks to Ten-Fold Increase in Energy Density March 4, 2015 By Nikki

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread paul dove via EV
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight Yes, irrelevant in a way. But what's not irrelevant is our charging infrastructure. We're building out L3 charging

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:19 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: [T]he kind of developments being researched by BASF could very well pave the way to cars that could travel more than 1,000 miles on a battery pack the same size as the ones in today’s mid-priced electric cars. I'm sure

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
...@operamail.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 06-Mar-15 8:59:29 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:19 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: [T]he kind of developments being researched by BASF could

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread paul dove via EV
ev@lists.evdl.org To: brucedp5 bruce...@operamail.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 06-Mar-15 8:59:29 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:19 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: [T]he kind

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight Irrelevant until a person can actually purchase one. Till then it's pie in the sky. From: Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
. Peri -- Original Message -- From: Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Ben Goren b...@trumpetpower.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org; brucedp5 bruce...@operamail.com Sent: 06-Mar-15 9:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Sean Korb via EV
That alone is reason to celebrate :) sean On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://transportevolved.com/2015/03/04/nimh-batteries- could-yet-again-power-electric-cars-says-basf- thanks-to-ten-fold-increase-in-energy-density/

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://transportevolved.com/2015/03/04/nimh-batteries-could-yet-again-power-electric-cars-says-basf-thanks-to-ten-fold-increase-in-energy-density/ NiMH Batteries Could Yet Again Power Electric Cars Says BASF, Thanks to Ten-Fold Increase in Energy Density None of this

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
off the kids in a hummer. Bob, WB4APR -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Ben Goren via EV Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:59 AM To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread paul dove via EV
via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight Isn't that a bit extreme? What about the many people who want to own only one car

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Sean Korb via EV
Oh. On February 14, 2012 BASF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASF announced that it had acquired Ovonic Battery Company from Energy Conversion Devices Inc.[27] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_encumbrance_of_large_automotive_NiMH_batteries#cite_note-27 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Sean Korb

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 6 Mar 2015 at 10:08, paul dove via EV wrote: Sure they [people who usually drive only 20 mi/day but now and then need more range] might exist but it's not economical to own that much battery for occasional use. Well, now, that depends. If you only use 10% of your battery's capacity per