Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Enclosed human-electric hybrid spins around the UCF campus

2015-05-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Looks like a good product. Be great to see plenty of those sorts of vehicles on 
the road.

b

On May 3, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Michael Ross michael.e.r...@gmail.com wrote:

 That looks a lot like the ELF product of the company I just started working 
 for.  I was previously a beta tester for them.  It is a good design.  I have 
 been hired to develop new products, but I hope I can add to their 
 manufacturing, purchasing and other efforts as well.
 
 Since I am an employee you have to take what I say with an open  skeptical 
 mind. 
 
 I do still have the beta I bought, and commuted 25 miles each way with.  (25 
 miles takes about 1kWh at 48VDC nominal on my older machine.  
 
 I degraded my LFP batteries by charging them fully in the hot sun, and have 
 not bought new packs. Now my commute is too long.   I think their current 
 packs are better than the ones I have, but I have no personal experience with 
 them.
 
 The ELF they sell now is better than mine in a number of ways. Fit and 
 finish, some suspension improvements, many small manufacturing details are 
 better now.. Mpre options are available.   
 
 It's effective and fun in an urban setting.  It is easy for car drivers to 
 see, and car traffic seems to treat you well - I have found it makes things 
 go smoother if you wave people around you when it makes sense - some people 
 just will not cross a double yellow without permission..   In suburbia you 
 may want to find more of the 25mph roads, but it really gets you across 
 intersections, up to speed from a dead stop, and up hills in a way no HPV 
 only bike can do.  On 25mph residential streets you will almost never hold up 
 car traffic.
 
 
 
 On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
 On May 3, 2015, at 12:27 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
 
  The Human Assisted Electric Vehicle could reach speeds of up to 40 mph and
  has a range of about 50 miles. The entire vehicle cost about $4,000 to
  produce.
 
 Velomobiles are wonderful, as are electric-assist velomobiles. I'm not so 
 sure they'll well suited for American suburbia...but there are definitely 
 those for whom such a vehicle is perfect.
 
 The thing that surprises me, though, is that price tag. It's not that hard to 
 spend that much on a recumbent trike, let alone add a fairing and an electric 
 motor, and velomobiles generally start at that price and up -- potentially 
 way up for high performance ones.
 
 Anybody know any more about this one?
 
 b
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[EVDL] EVLN: Enclosed human-electric hybrid spins around the UCF campus

2015-05-03 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.centralfloridafuture.com/story/news/2015/04/26/student-engineers-show-inventions-at-design-showcase/26414741/
Student engineers show inventions at design showcase
Bernard Wilchusky  April 26, 2015

[images  
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The Human Assisted Electric Vehicle could reach speeds of up to 40 mph and
has a range of about 50 miles. The entire vehicle cost about $4,000 to
produce.(Photo: Bernard Whilchusky, Central Florida Future)

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/eeccbc223e67becdb7f99ae9d10aaf0ac8b9f70e/c=115-0-1933-1367r=x513c=680x510/local/-/media/2015/04/26/CentralFloridaFuture/CentralFloridaFuture/635656518687682219-Engineering-Senior-Design-Showcase-2015-7.JPG
The HAEV takes a spin around the UCF campus. (Photo: Bernard Wilchusky,
Central Florida Future)

video  flash
Seniors of the UCF College of Engineering showcase their latest inventions.
Bernard Wilchusky, Central Florida Future
]

The annual showcase, hosted from 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. in the atrium of
Engineering Building I, challenged outgoing students to design new and
inventive solutions to real-world problems.

Student groups, ranging in size from three to six members, labored for
months to make creations such as a portable drone charging platform, a
low-cost mode of transportation and even a new stress-testing suite for use
in aeronautical design. Groups were required to find materials and fund for
their projects, many of which cost up to $2,000 in parts alone.


[image] Senior mechanical engineering students Garrett Chapman, Chris Harris
and Zachary Loparo stand in front of their invention, the Human Assisted
Electric Vehicle. (Photo: Bernard Wilchusky, Central Florida Future)

For members of the Enhanced Alternative Transportation team, the goal was to
design a safe and cost-effective mode of transportation. Their invention, a
teardrop-shaped tricycle called the Human Assisted Electric Vehicle, had a
final cost of $4,000, said Caleb Amy, a member of the team.

We designed this vehicle to bridge the gap between cars and bicycles, said
Amy, a senior mechanical engineering major. It's a lot cheaper than a car,
but it also protects you from the weather. It can cruise at about 40 mph,
has a range of 50 miles, and it protects the rider from the rain. Not to
mention, it's pretty comfortable.


The team behind the Supply and Command Roller for an Autonomous Multicopter
set out to make a mobile, remote-controlled charging platform for long-range
drones. Its device, a large platform flanked by twin photovoltaic panels,
boasted a small processing suite nestled between its four wheels that would
allow operators to control and move the platform remotely.

The best way to think of it is as a big, fancy charging station, said Tom
Czachur, a senior aerospace engineering major. It's like if your phone
charger had wheels and a big, fancy solar charger, except it doesn't plug
into a phone, it plugs into a hexacopter.

The Hypersonic Environment Testing team designed a particolored metal rig
that placed airplane components under the kind of thermal, mechanical or
sonic stresses the team would experience during regular operating
conditions. Michael Sanchez, a senior mechanical engineering major, said
that the testing rig was the first system that was able to test all three
stresses simultaneously.

Our testing rig simulates hypersonic flight conditions, Sanchez said.
We're trying to simulate mechanical loading, thermal stress and acoustic
loading. Our testing for that last one is really loud; you need earbuds to
be near it. It's the equivalent of being next to a really, really loud music
concert, which is like being at Mach 5.
[© centralfloridafuture.com]




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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Enclosed human-electric hybrid spins around the UCF campus

2015-05-03 Thread Michael Ross via EV
That looks a lot like the ELF http://organictransit.com/ product of the
company I just started working for.  I was previously a beta tester for
them.  It is a good design.  I have been hired to develop new products, but
I hope I can add to their manufacturing, purchasing and other efforts as
well.

Since I am an employee you have to take what I say with an open  skeptical
mind.

I do still have the beta I bought, and commuted 25 miles each way with.
 (25 miles takes about 1kWh at 48VDC nominal on my older machine.

I degraded my LFP batteries by charging them fully in the hot sun, and have
not bought new packs. Now my commute is too long.   I think their current
packs are better than the ones I have, but I have no personal experience
with them.

The ELF they sell now is better than mine in a number of ways. Fit and
finish, some suspension improvements, many small manufacturing details are
better now.. Mpre options are available.

It's effective and fun in an urban setting.  It is easy for car drivers to
see, and car traffic seems to treat you well - I have found it makes things
go smoother if you wave people around you when it makes sense - some people
just will not cross a double yellow without permission..   In suburbia
you may want to find more of the 25mph roads, but it really gets you across
intersections, up to speed from a dead stop, and up hills in a way no HPV
only bike can do.  On 25mph residential streets you will almost never hold
up car traffic.



On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 On May 3, 2015, at 12:27 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

  The Human Assisted Electric Vehicle could reach speeds of up to 40 mph
 and
  has a range of about 50 miles. The entire vehicle cost about $4,000 to
  produce.

 Velomobiles are wonderful, as are electric-assist velomobiles. I'm not so
 sure they'll well suited for American suburbia...but there are definitely
 those for whom such a vehicle is perfect.

 The thing that surprises me, though, is that price tag. It's not that hard
 to spend that much on a recumbent trike, let alone add a fairing and an
 electric motor, and velomobiles generally start at that price and up --
 potentially way up for high performance ones.

 Anybody know any more about this one?

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Enclosed human-electric hybrid spins around the UCF campus

2015-05-03 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 3, 2015, at 12:27 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 The Human Assisted Electric Vehicle could reach speeds of up to 40 mph and
 has a range of about 50 miles. The entire vehicle cost about $4,000 to
 produce.

Velomobiles are wonderful, as are electric-assist velomobiles. I'm not so sure 
they'll well suited for American suburbia...but there are definitely those for 
whom such a vehicle is perfect.

The thing that surprises me, though, is that price tag. It's not that hard to 
spend that much on a recumbent trike, let alone add a fairing and an electric 
motor, and velomobiles generally start at that price and up -- potentially way 
up for high performance ones.

Anybody know any more about this one?

b
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