Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-23 Thread Ben Apollonio via EV
Stickers!?!? Hell no! I'd much rather have a fancy license plate that advertises my car's electric drivetrain than have to cover my poor, beautiful car with stickers! Here in MA, we have optional EV plates. I have one and rather like it. -Ben On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Mark Abramowitz vi

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-22 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
I wonder if done of this overreaction is coming from materials from the manufacturers themselves. Look at some of the dismantling instructions from Nissan for the Leaf: http://elvsolutions.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013-Nissan-LEAF-DG.pdf I have a first responders app on my phone that also

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-21 Thread Zeke Yewdall via EV
electric cars? > > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dube via EV > Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2014 8:24 p.m. > To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-21 Thread George Tyler via EV
List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers This supposed "electrocution" hazard posed by electric vehicles is an all too common myth. First off, commercial EVs have an inertia switch which cuts the main contractors at the pack. You are in a

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-21 Thread Bill Dube via EV
This supposed "electrocution" hazard posed by electric vehicles is an all too common myth. First off, commercial EVs have an inertia switch which cuts the main contractors at the pack. You are in a wreck, the power is automatically cut off by the inertia switch. The only component with HV is t

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV &hybrid drivers

2014-08-20 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Please close this thread, it has no longer relevance to EV. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 George Tyler wrote: There is an article on inte

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-20 Thread George Tyler via EV
Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2014 10:06 a.m. To: Mark Abramowitz; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers On Aug 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: >> Other Hydrogen systems use the hydrogen as fuel f

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-20 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: >> Other Hydrogen systems use the hydrogen as fuel for the ICE. > > I'm not aware of any of these, but would certainly be interested in learning > about where it is being done. Regular gasoline engines are, for the most part, equally

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
On Aug 20, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Dennis Miles wrote: > > The state of the art for fuel cell powered vehicles mandates a battery and > electric motor system. On Aug 20, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Dennis Miles wrote: > > The state of the art for fuel cell powered vehicles mandates a battery and > electri

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-20 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
The state of the art for fuel cell powered vehicles mandates a battery and electric motor system. Because, economical fuel cell systems are only practical as trickle chargers or range extenders with the battery concentrating power for accelerating in traffic, or as needed. Other Hydrogen systems u

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Oddly, the link to the bill referred to includes none of the language being discussed in some of the articles. The language only authorizes the state motor vehicles folks to makes regulations for special plates. It doesn't even requires them to do so. Arguably it could apply to at least some F

[EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% Simple dealer provided stickers will do (like for HOV lane access). The law does not apply to fcvs: since when do fcvs not have high-voltages? ... This ignorantly & badly written, and poorly implemented 'separate & not-equal' law incorrectly labels EVs & hybrids as extraordinarily dangerous, as