Re: [EVDL] Petulant trucker-hat-wearing duo of dolts foolishly finger-gesture !rump: chanting trucks ...

2019-01-21 Thread Paul Dove via EV
When I drove my Tesla to Georgia one of the Superchargers was in a pay parking 
lot. You get a ticket to open the gate and get it stamped by a local merchant 
nearby. This solution would cut down on Ice blockers I suspect.

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> On Jan 21, 2019, at 12:26 AM, Haudy Kazemi via EV  wrote:
> 
> There are technical solutions available:
> Parking space barriers to reserve parking spaces could also be used for
> charging spaces.
> 
> Examples are already in place at some malls, and some units can be
> controlled by phone.
> 
> Here is one article for the MyPark system:
> 
> http://tcbmag.com/news/articles/2018/december/pay-to-reserve-parking-spot-app-mypark-thriving-at
> 
> Obviously this doesn't prevent actual physical vandalism. Cameras and law
> enforcement is needed in those cases.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 19:50 Lee Hart via EV  wrote:
>> 
>> Tom Hudson via EV wrote:
>>> Agreed about the signage... but I think these Neanderthals would do it
>> anyway. We need to get photos of the offenders every time it happens and
>> document it. Using this kind of evidence, I'm hoping to get a state statute
>> against this crap here in Wisconsin so that when we see it, we can call the
>> police to enforce it.
>>> Until now, this deliberate blockage could only be referred to whatever
>> entity owns the facility where the chargers are located, i.e. Tesla
>> Supercharger sites in mall parking lots, which can be problematic in terms
>> of enforcement. If it's after hours, getting in contact with whoever can do
>> something isn't always possible. Not so with state statutes and actual
>> police.
>> 
>> I would think that once law enforcement is "on board", they will
>> aggressively ticket offenders as a money-making venture.
>> 
>> They need a camerea on the EVSE. When someone parks there illegally, it
>> "calls in". Same as in areas that have parking meters that "call in"
>> when a meter expires, so they can get there quick to ticket the car.
>> 
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Re: [EVDL] Petulant trucker-hat-wearing duo of dolts foolishly finger-gesture !rump: chanting trucks ...

2019-01-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV

Tom Hudson via EV wrote:

Agreed about the signage... but I think these Neanderthals would do it anyway. 
We need to get photos of the offenders every time it happens and document it. 
Using this kind of evidence, I'm hoping to get a state statute against this 
crap here in Wisconsin so that when we see it, we can call the police to 
enforce it.
Until now, this deliberate blockage could only be referred to whatever entity 
owns the facility where the chargers are located, i.e. Tesla Supercharger sites 
in mall parking lots, which can be problematic in terms of enforcement. If it's 
after hours, getting in contact with whoever can do something isn't always 
possible. Not so with state statutes and actual police.


I would think that once law enforcement is "on board", they will 
aggressively ticket offenders as a money-making venture.


They need a camerea on the EVSE. When someone parks there illegally, it 
"calls in". Same as in areas that have parking meters that "call in" 
when a meter expires, so they can get there quick to ticket the car.


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Re: [EVDL] Petulant trucker-hat-wearing duo of dolts foolishly finger-gesture !rump: chanting trucks ...

2019-01-20 Thread Tom Hudson via EV
Agreed about the signage... but I think these Neanderthals would do it anyway. 
We need to get photos of the offenders every time it happens and document it. 
Using this kind of evidence, I'm hoping to get a state statute against this 
crap here in Wisconsin so that when we see it, we can call the police to 
enforce it.
Until now, this deliberate blockage could only be referred to whatever entity 
owns the facility where the chargers are located, i.e. Tesla Supercharger sites 
in mall parking lots, which can be problematic in terms of enforcement. If it's 
after hours, getting in contact with whoever can do something isn't always 
possible. Not so with state statutes and actual police.
-Tom
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 Original message From: brucedp5 via EV  
Date: 1/20/19  2:10 PM  (GMT+12:00) To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: brucedp5 
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  finger-gesture  !rump: chanting trucks ... 


% All EVSE-spots' signage should be 'fine '
in red letters with local enforcement codes numbers cited %

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/letters/2019/01/19/letter-truckers-fight/
Letter: Truckers fight losing war against electric vehicles
2019-01-19  Deedra Hansen Lambert

Some pickup truck drivers are waging a war against hybrid/electric vehicles
drivers. In addition to “rolling coal” on Teslas, Leafs, etc., these
champions of the soon-to-be-extinct internal combustion engine are parking
and blocking public EV chargers.

I encountered a duo of dolts doing this recently as they parked their large
Ford pickup at a well-marked EV charger on 300 South in Salt Lake City.

“Electric vehicle parking only — must be charging,” the sign proclaimed. But
the trucker-hat-wearing man-children decided they were going to, to, well,
I’m not really sure what these fools were trying to accomplish by blocking
an EV charger. Prevent cleaner air?

Dudes, look around. The air quality in Salt Lake is horrendous, and you’re
trying to make it worse? As the pair were leaving, I pointed out that they
were parked at an EV spot. They shrugged their shoulders and made rude hand
gestures. I made a finger gesture.

The driver then rolled down his window, pumped his fist and shouted, “Go
Trump!”

Huh?

Truckers, you benefit from people driving EVs. They produce less pollution.
Stop blocking chargers and acting like petulant children. EVs are the
future. Best get 
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Re: [EVDL] Petulant trucker-hat-wearing duo of dolts foolishly finger-gesture !rump: chanting trucks ...

2019-01-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
It's a waste of time to try to reason with these proudly ignorant dupes. 
They'll just laugh at you, or worse.
 
No point in arguing that EV owners are helping clean up their air, either.  
Clean air doesn't interest them.  In fact, most of them deliberately fill 
their lungs -- and their families' -- with carbon monoxide, benzene, 
cadmium, arsenic, cyanide, tar, and nicotine, 20 or more times a day.  

They'll eventually suffocate in their own excreta.  Unfortunately, it looks 
like they'll take the rest of us with them.  So it goes.

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[EVDL] Petulant trucker-hat-wearing duo of dolts foolishly finger-gesture !rump: chanting trucks ...

2019-01-19 Thread brucedp5 via EV


% All EVSE-spots' signage should be 'fine '
in red letters with local enforcement codes numbers cited %

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/letters/2019/01/19/letter-truckers-fight/
Letter: Truckers fight losing war against electric vehicles
2019-01-19  Deedra Hansen Lambert

Some pickup truck drivers are waging a war against hybrid/electric vehicles
drivers. In addition to “rolling coal” on Teslas, Leafs, etc., these
champions of the soon-to-be-extinct internal combustion engine are parking
and blocking public EV chargers.

I encountered a duo of dolts doing this recently as they parked their large
Ford pickup at a well-marked EV charger on 300 South in Salt Lake City.

“Electric vehicle parking only — must be charging,” the sign proclaimed. But
the trucker-hat-wearing man-children decided they were going to, to, well,
I’m not really sure what these fools were trying to accomplish by blocking
an EV charger. Prevent cleaner air?

Dudes, look around. The air quality in Salt Lake is horrendous, and you’re
trying to make it worse? As the pair were leaving, I pointed out that they
were parked at an EV spot. They shrugged their shoulders and made rude hand
gestures. I made a finger gesture.

The driver then rolled down his window, pumped his fist and shouted, “Go
Trump!”

Huh?

Truckers, you benefit from people driving EVs. They produce less pollution.
Stop blocking chargers and acting like petulant children. EVs are the
future. Best get used to it.
 -Deedra Hansen Lambert, Salt Lake City
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