Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-14 Thread Peter C. Thompson via EV
Completely agree with this approach, with one addition: 3D modeling software. Design your vehicle and test it before you build it. EAA can help you there as well. Cheers! Peter On 2/14/15 12:00 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: My father has (a long time ago) built several custom

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-14 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
My father has (a long time ago) built several custom windsurf boards with that method of shaping a light foam core and then skinning it with glassfiber or Kevlar embedded in thin epoxy layers. It is even user-repairable, although never as beautiful as before. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-13 Thread lektwik via EV
I don't know if this is still going on, but photos of the minimalist vehicles powered purely by PV mounted to the vehicles may provide ideas. No batteries or any other energy storage devices allowed on vehicle. Official Solar Drag Race Website- http://users.applecapital.net/~jim/solardragrace.htm

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-13 Thread John Schaefer via EV
As far as I know the Xof1 car still holds the long distance record, at 35,000 km. Canadian Marcelo Da Luz and numerous volunteers and helpers built a purely solar powered car and drove it all over the U. S. and Canada beginning in 2008. Marcelo drove it from Niagara Falls to Chicago, Bemidji,

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-13 Thread test model via EV
I found some of theses Ev scooter used, with just a few k on them, but they have a such a small battery pack . I'd like to know what voltage this pack is, I'm sure I could build a pack with the extra LFP cells, increase my range. Ideas or where I could find this info.??

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 13 Feb 2015 at 22:27, test model via EV wrote: I found some of theses Ev scooter used, with just a few k on them, but they have a such a small battery pack . I'd like to know what voltage this pack is ... You haven't provided enough info here. Someone might be able to help, if you'd

[EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-12 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
It is clear that it is possible to build a practical solar vehicle. The formula is 55wh per mile consumption. 1.2kw solar panel. 850 pound weight. 16kw battery pack. Range 500 miles. The vehicle must be aerodynamic. Have the proper motor, wheels carry 4 passengers with a trunk. It's been

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-12 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Feb 12, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: It is clear that it is possible to build a practical solar vehicle. Not only that, it's downright common. I'd venture to suggest that the majority of EVs on the road today are probably solar powered. At the very

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-12 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Not going to happen. The 11 x 7 patch on the roof of the solar vehicle stays. I'm not accepting any it can't be done statementsnext. Lawrence Rhodes...I don't care how ugly. I'm making a copy of Stella. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-12 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Well the the ratio of panel size to output power for the vehicle does vary upon speed and usage. As a builder of a an on-board solar powered boat I have had great success with it - 4 years worth :-) My Firefly's motors ( http://www.evalbum.com/3432) are only about 800 watts total power from my

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-12 Thread Michael Ross via EV
Lawrence, For practicalities sake, I think 77ft^2 (7m^2) is a hard sell for getting much travel done. Just roughing it out, (and a person can take some exception with any of these) a meter squared is good for maybe 1000W of incoming sun. For maybe 8 hours a sunny day and less over a year - call

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-12 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
  Hi Dale and All,    With panels so cheap why not use enough to cruise at least 6mph. sunelec , others have them $.50-.80/wt.      Or put a full 2-3kw on it and connect it to your home powering it when not motoring would be useful, cool.  A new

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Lawrence started a similar thread, inspired by the Stella solar vehicle, back in September. http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html#nabble-td4671785|a4671794 He received pretty much the same replies then as now. This is a big assignment. We're talking about a 900lb 2-passenger (or is it

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-12 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: This is a big assignment. We're talking about a 900lb 2-passenger (or is it 4-passenger?) vehicle that reportedly runs on 55Wh/mi. That's about 2.5 to 3 times my ebike's energy use, but the Stella weighs in at 18 times the bike's mass! It's also rolling on 4

Re: [EVDL] What is needed to build a successful practical solar vehicle.

2015-02-12 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Lawrence Rhodes wrote: It is clear that it is possible to build a practical solar vehicle. Possible, yes. Practical? That's the hard one. Practical means different things to different people. A solar-powered EV is not going to be a normal car; it will have to be exceedingly light and