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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Chevrolet S-10EV trucks being auctioned (Cor van de Water)
   2. Re: EV generosity; charging a 48V pack with a 36V charger
      (Peter Gabrielsson)


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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:31:00 -0700
From: "Cor van de Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Chevrolet S-10EV trucks being auctioned
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850 lbs of payload capacity does not sound too limiting to me.
Indeed they are uncommon in their FWD for a truck, the big
advantage is of course that there is no driveshaft cutting
the battery box in two, as in all other trucks like my
US Electricar, so it allows more battery space.
I have frequently seen people upgrade trucks from odd
battery voltage and shape to a more common battery type
and the main concerns were how to make the BMS happy and
if there is a programmed charge profile, how to update that.
Other than that - these 3 trucks appear to have been in
service between 10,000 and 36,000 miles which indicates that
the last one had at least one new pack, but likely they
are all dead now, that is almost a given.
I am tempted to bid, but have already too much on my hands
as it is. I would consider these trucks an EV with already
installed motor (likely in good shape) and instrumentation 
and battery box, but with question marks regarding the 
operation of the electronics (though that usually can be fixed)
and a bad pack. I would bid accordingly, in that respect 
the bids between $0 and $962 are very low at the moment.

Regards,

Cor van de Water
Systems Architect
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Chancey
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 9:23 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Chevrolet S-10EV trucks being auctioned

Al wrote:
>Does anyone have any more info on these trucks?
>What company built them? What brand electronics?

These appear to be the actual GM electric S-10EVs, the truck version of the 
EV1.  Despite the conventional S-10 body they are front wheel drive, limited 
cargo capacity, and just about completely unsuitable for use as gliders for a 
conventional conversion as the chassis and suspension are pretty strange.  The 
original Delphi batteries were crap and they are an odd size which make 
retrofitting difficult.

Most of these were crushed, but as you see a few survived.  If you have seen 
Who Killed the Electric Car, these are the pickups mixed in with the EV1s.  
Parts are going to be a real problem as GM has dropped all support.

There is some data on the web at:

Http://evalbum.com/722

and

http://www.seattleeva.org/wiki/Chevrolet_S10_EV

and

http://avt.inl.gov/pdf/fsev/eva/chvs10.pdf

These don't look like a project for the faint of heart.  I've been driving EVs 
for 17 years and I wouldn't go near one.  On the other hand, when working they 
would be pretty cool.


Thanks,



Mike Chancey,
'88 Civic EV
Kansas City, Missouri
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:45:24 -0700
From: "Peter Gabrielsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV generosity; charging a 48V pack with a 36V
        charger
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I know what you mean. People have literally been throwing EV
components at me when I tell them I'm working on a conversion. The
most expensive part has been fixing up the car, the big ticket
components have all been more or less donated to me.

I hope I can pass on the favor some day.


-Peter


On 10/19/07, Darin at- forkenswift.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the heads-up on the bargain chargers, Eduardo & Michael.
>
> Since starting this thread however, someone on the list has offered to
> donate (!) a pair of used 25 amp/24 volt smart chargers (suitable for these
> batteries) to the cause.  Charging issue solved... just like that.
>
> I continue to be amazed at how willing folks have been to help us with this
> EV.  We've received lots of unsolicited offers of both time & material ...
>
> - the used Exide 6v floodies, from another EV owner
> - a hefty discount on the machining (coupler, adapter plate) by an
> acquaintance
> - 20 feet of used welding cable (battery interconnects) from a friend
> - a little bit of free welding & welding instruction (acquaintance)
> - free worn-out floodies (used for our "test pack") from the company that
> sold us the forklift
> - my mechanic didn't charge for the vehicle inspection - I've been going to
> him for years with my ICE car, and he's never done that before - or to write
> a letter requested by the licence office
>
> There are others I'm sure I've forgotten at the moment.
>
> The generosity hasn't been limited to other EV owners either.  People just
> seem genuinely interested in the project and want to help.
>
> - Darin
> --
> View this message in context: 
> http://www.nabble.com/charging-a-48V-pack-with-a-36V-charger--tf4614190s25542.html#a13300387
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