EV Digest 2461
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: OT (But Energy and Beer Related)
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) Re: Surplus aircraft nicads
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) Re: EDISON DISALLOWS CONDUCTIVE CHARGING ON EV TOU METERS!
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) Re: Surplus aircraft nicads
by Sam Uzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) Re: Zinc air.
by "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) Electro mechanical capacitors
by "Andre Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) Re: Silent Running
by "Tony McCormick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) Re: Victor's PowerCheq Mystery SOLVED!!!!
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Re: Victor's PowerCheq Mystery SOLVED!!!!
by Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) RE: Amps Volts can Kostov take? / Controller current.
by David Dymaxion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) Re: Victor's PowerCheq Mystery SOLVED!!!!
by Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Re: Surplus aircraft nicads
by Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) Re: bats "best power"
by "Vince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) RE: Victor's PowerCheq Mystery SOLVED!!!!
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
15) RE: 1kW Hydrogen Fuel Cell $5995
by "Crabb, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
16) RE: Victor's PowerCheq Mystery SOLVED!!!!
by David Dymaxion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) Re: Victor's PowerCheq Mystery SOLVED!!!!
by Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
18) RE: 1kW Hydrogen Fuel Cell $5995
by "Andre Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19) Re: OT (But Energy and Beer Related)
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
20) EDISON DISALLOWS CONDUCTIVE CHARGING ON EV TOU METERS!
by Marvin Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21) RE: bats "best power"
by "Roger Stockton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22) Re: EDISON DISALLOWS CONDUCTIVE CHARGING ON EV TOU METERS!
by "Vince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
23) Re: Victor's PowerCheq Mystery SOLVED!!!!
by "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24) Re: Victor's PowerCheq Mystery SOLVED!!!!
by "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
25) Re: Victor's PowerCheq Mystery SOLVED!!!!
by Rich Rudman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26) Re: Victor's PowerCheq Mystery SOLVED!!!!
by Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
27) EDISON DISS
by Marvin Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
28) Re: Think City Handling (was: At What Price?)
by Jon Knepher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
29) Zn-Airs for EVs
by Sam Uzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
30) Re: OT (But Energy and Beer Related)
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Andre Blanchard wrote:
> Something just does not feel right about using a very high grade
> high cost form of energy like electricity to provide low grade low
> temp heat, there has to be a better way.
I agree. Electric heat is appealing to builders because it is CHEAP and
EASY for them to install. They don't care what it costs the homeowner to
run it.
Most homeowners don't care about pollution or energy efficiency, either.
All they care about is their monthly heating bill.
The "better way" with electricity is a heat pump. If they were in
widespread use, it would probably reduce society's total energy
consumption and air pollution, regardless of what fuel was used to run
it (electric motor, piston engine driven by natural gas, etc.)
> I live well out of town and heat solely with wood cut on my own
> land, I can not see myself living any other way.
Of course, burning wood produces even more pollution than coal!
Peter VanDerWal (I think?) wrote:
>> Burning coal in every house might be more efficient, but what about
>> the pollution?
History tells us it was very bad. It's hard to imagine scrubbers being
installed on every small home coal-burning furnace, as well.
>> my wife doesn't like gas stoves (she gets headaches)
Yep; the pollution produced by the exhaust is being dumped right inside
your house. Luckily, gas is relative clean. Still, it can cause problems
because new houses are being built so tight.
--
Lee A. Hart Ring the bells that still can ring
814 8th Ave. N. Forget your perfect offering
Sartell, MN 56377 USA There is a crack in everything
leeahart_at_earthlink.net That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
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Sam Uzi wrote:
> on this last point, is there any advantage to "pump-and-pause"
> charging?
This wouldn't be useful for nicads.
--
Lee A. Hart Ring the bells that still can ring
814 8th Ave. N. Forget your perfect offering
Sartell, MN 56377 USA There is a crack in everything
leeahart_at_earthlink.net That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
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Marvin Campbell wrote:
> So Edison finally came out and installed my TOU meter but you're
> gonna LOVE this: They won't allow me to charge my Soleq EVcort on
> that circuit.
How can they stop you from connecting loads to your TOU meter?
It is easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
--
Lee A. Hart Ring the bells that still can ring
814 8th Ave. N. Forget your perfect offering
Sartell, MN 56377 USA There is a crack in everything
leeahart_at_earthlink.net That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
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> > on this last point, is there any advantage to "pump-and-pause"
> > charging?
> This wouldn't be useful for nicads.
presumably because of the specific chemistry used; so, is there advantage
in pulse-charging with other chemistries (or is it generally not good, but
some chemistries tollerate it better than others?)
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Correction 1000 mile run on one charge. Lawrence Rhodes......
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From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: Zinc air.
> The only thing that comes close to your request is an
> electrolytic
> zinc regenerator. It plugs into the wall and
> regenerates spent
> zinc fuel cell oxide back into zinc. The availability
> of these is
> very tenuous, but keep your eyes open. Maybe in the
> distant
> future...
>
> Anybody using Zinc air. Seems a lot of tests are going on. I am still
> impressed by the 10 mile run on one charge 5 years ago. Lawrence
Rhodes...I
> don't need big amps to do errands........................
>
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A permanent magnet motor with just a flywheel on its shaft looks to an out
side circuit exactly like a large capacitor, one with a large series
resistance and inductance and a large leakage current, but it behaves the
same.
Is there a similar setup that would behave like an inductor?
Andre' B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If something cannot be defined, it does not exist.
Isaac Newton
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:56:09 -0500
Subject: Re: OT (But Energy and Beer Related)
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Hello,
Did the list server hicup? This one didn't come in as an EVDL Digest,
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Odd, very odd, but thought I'd let you know, just in case.
Mark Blackie
From: Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:53:26 -0800
Subject: Re: OT (But Energy and Beer Related)
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Re: OT (But Energy and Beer Related)
On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:53:26 -0800 Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Andre Blanchard wrote:
> > Something just does not feel right about using a very high grade
> > high cost form of energy like electricity to provide low grade low
> > temp heat, there has to be a better way.
>
> I agree. Electric heat is appealing to builders because it is CHEAP
> and
> EASY for them to install. They don't care what it costs the
> homeowner to
> run it.
>
> Most homeowners don't care about pollution or energy efficiency,
> either.
> All they care about is their monthly heating bill.
>
> The "better way" with electricity is a heat pump. If they were in
> widespread use, it would probably reduce society's total energy
> consumption and air pollution, regardless of what fuel was used to
> run
> it (electric motor, piston engine driven by natural gas, etc.)
>
> > I live well out of town and heat solely with wood cut on my own
> > land, I can not see myself living any other way.
>
> Of course, burning wood produces even more pollution than coal!
>
> Peter VanDerWal (I think?) wrote:
> >> Burning coal in every house might be more efficient, but what
> about
> >> the pollution?
>
> History tells us it was very bad. It's hard to imagine scrubbers
> being
> installed on every small home coal-burning furnace, as well.
>
> >> my wife doesn't like gas stoves (she gets headaches)
>
> Yep; the pollution produced by the exhaust is being dumped right
> inside
> your house. Luckily, gas is relative clean. Still, it can cause
> problems
> because new houses are being built so tight.
> --
> Lee A. Hart Ring the bells that still can ring
> 814 8th Ave. N. Forget your perfect offering
> Sartell, MN 56377 USA There is a crack in everything
> leeahart_at_earthlink.net That's how the light gets in - Leonard
> Cohen
>
>
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