Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chevron-pr is pro-EV secret con-EV campaign> forked-tongue

2019-05-29 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
My favorite line: “Ironically, I bet this is the same failed tactic that a desperate horse and buggy lobbyist once used to try and scare the public against gas automobiles.” - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 28, 2019, at 10:50 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > >

[EVDL] auto exec thinks Tesla can last

2019-05-29 Thread brucedp5 via EV
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Does-anyone-really-think-Tesla-can-last-tp4693631.html ] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-wont-go-out-of-business-says-one-veteran-auto-exec-162939438.html Tesla won't go out of business, says one veteran auto exec May 29, 2019

[EVDL] iNEXT EVs are certainly not “blowing Tesla out of the water”

2019-05-29 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://electrek.co/2019/05/24/bmw-tesla-worry-shareholders/ BMW shareholders worry about Tesla’s competitive advantage May. 24th 2019 Fred Lambert [image https://i2.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/09/BMW-inext-gold-woods-e1537031265890.jpg iNEXT ] Tesla’s electric

[EVDL] GM's OnStar Data to be used for planning future EVSE installations

2019-05-29 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lianeyvkoff/2019/05/29/gm-will-use-onstar-data-to-plan-its-future-ev-charging-network/#3abe3d915741 GM Will Use OnStar Data To Plan Its Future EV Charging Network May 29, 2019 Liane Yvkoff [image

Re: [EVDL] Formally complain to Nissan If you want an e-NV200 in North America.

2019-05-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Well, I tried contacting Nissan. Their general feedback form wouldn't work because it required selecting a dealer, but there aren't any dealers in Seattle - it wouldn't let me select a dealer from an adjacent area. That's pretty stupid software ! So, I found another form where you can inquire

Re: [EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings bite them in the arse

2019-05-29 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
It’s not about whether or not the range is lower at lower temperatures, or what you get in your car, but the accuracy of the claims being made by vendors of zero emission technologies, and the commitments they make to customers. BYD has some *great* products and is run by sone great folks, but

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chevron-pr is pro-EV secret con-EV campaign> forked-tongue

2019-05-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I think we'll see more and more EV support by the petrol industry, such as this case. I think they understand that their industry is slowly going to shrivel. Of course, it's hard to know at this point whether Chevron is genuine or just doing a big PR stunt. Seems genuine, though. Peri --

Re: [EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings - how about fossil fuel heaters?

2019-05-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I wouild like to see the cost/carbon/benefit analysis of providing fossil-fuel catalytic heaters in cold climatges. Yes, there is double to triple energy savings with heatpumps but they still do not work effectively at cold climates. Me thinks that using a fossil fuel 99.9% efficient heater for

Re: [EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings bite them in the arse

2019-05-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I wonder why they didn't' design a battery warmer into the case (at least I assume they didn't). Seems that would have made a tremendous difference in this case. -- Original Message -- From: "Mark Abramowitz via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Mark Abramowitz" ;

[EVDL] Solectria E-10 differential

2019-05-29 Thread Tom Hudson via EV
Hi All, I have a 1995 Solectria E-10 pickup that has developed some issues in the drive train.  The main issue seems to be the custom differential that Solectria put together for it -- I always assumed that the differential in there was a stock Chevy S-10 unit that they flipped around so the

Re: [EVDL] Solectria E-10 differential

2019-05-29 Thread Tom Hudson via EV
Well, I heard back from the mechanic -- he drained the differential oil to get a look at it and it was "a metal milkshake".  So the E-10's differential is basically shot; he thinks that the debris in the lube probably destroyed the bearings as well. So I'm hoping that someone out there can

Re: [EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings - how about fossil fuel heaters?

2019-05-29 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: If you're building from scratch, wouldn't it be just as easy to insulate the battery and provide a small electrical heat source? If well insulated, how much power would it take? 100W or so, or am I completely off. It would of course depend on the physical size of the

Re: [EVDL] Dual voltage EVSE?

2019-05-29 Thread Alan Brinkman via EV
Bob, The EVSE you are looking at lists: Rated current & voltage: 120v-220v / 16A. I would assume that it will signal the electric vehicle it plugs into that it can supply a maximum of 16 Amps at 120v when plugged into 120v and 240v when plugged into 240v. However, a simple description of an

[EVDL] Charegers

2019-05-29 Thread Sam Shepherd via EV
Will the 220 charger I used for my 48 calb's work on my 5 Tesla S cells? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190529/5b059111/attachment.h

Re: [EVDL] Dual voltage EVSE?

2019-05-29 Thread Michael A. Radtke via EV
Bob, This EVSE seems to be sold under several brand names and I couldn't find a manual for any of them. I'll bet that you looked as well. These manufacturers sell a variable current EVSE as well, so I guess that the model you referenced sends a fixed 16 amp signal to the on board charger

Re: [EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings - how about fossil fuel heaters?

2019-05-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Robert, the energy needed long term would be determined by the heat loss, not the mass being heated. Thus, if perfectly insulated there would be no heat loss and thus no energy needed to keep the battery warm. So, my question persists. Why didn't BYD put thermal management into their

Re: [EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings - how about fossil fuel heaters?

2019-05-29 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV
> It takes 1 BTU to raise one pound one degree. The engineer in me won't allow this to pass unchallenged, although in the context of this discussion, it probably doesn't matter. It takes 1 BTU to raise one pound OF WATER one degree. You have to consider the latent heat of whatever the object

Re: [EVDL] Dual voltage EVSE?

2019-05-29 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190529/b6b29458/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)

[EVDL] L1&2: Dual voltage EVSE

2019-05-29 Thread brucedp5 via EV
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Dual-voltage-EVSE-tp4693724.html https://www.amazon.com/BougeRV-Portable-Electric-Charging-Compatible/dp/B07BM1XT4Q ] I'll assume you like this EVSE because it is dual voltage, thus dual level (1&2), and it comes with a molded

[EVDL] Dual voltage EVSE?

2019-05-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Amazon has this dual voltage EVSE ($189) that includes the adapter to 240 V 20 amp plug. https://www.amazon.com/BougeRV-Portable-Electric-Charging-Compatible/dp/B0 7BM1XT4Q/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=dual+voltage+evse=1559162151=gateway =8-1 Does anyone know if these things signal 12 amps at both

Re: [EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings - how about fossil fuel heaters?

2019-05-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
If you're building from scratch, wouldn't it be just as easy to insulate the battery and provide a small electrical heat source? If well insulated, how much power would it take? 100W or so, or am I completely off. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Bruninga" To: "Peri Hartman"

Re: [EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings - how about fossil fuel heaters?

2019-05-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> wouldn't it be just as easy to insulate the battery and > provide a small electrical heat source. 100W or so? Lets say a 1000 lB battery. It takes 1 BTU to raise one pound one degree. To raise 1000 lbs say 40 degrees from 0F to 40F would take 40,000 BTU or about 11 kWh Or about 33 miles of

Re: [EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings - how about fossil fuel heaters?

2019-05-29 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: wouldn't it be just as easy to insulate the battery and provide a small electrical heat source. 100W or so? Lets say a 1000 lB battery. It takes 1 BTU to raise one pound one degree. To raise 1000 lbs say 40 degrees from 0F to 40F would take 40,000 BTU or about 11